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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:37 am 
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Jamison should consider himself unlucky that we don't get the same treatment as Essendon* where you can get off punching opponents in the face.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/w ... 6013621491

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:57 am 
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The part i found most interesting was that Luke Shuey only got 93.75 points for his HEAD HIGH BUMP on Keefe who was in hospital with pins and needles. Repeat..........HEAD HIGH BUMP.
The inconsistency is a joke.

The only difference is that the MRP assessed Jammo's as "high impact", and Schuey's as "low impact".

I didn't see either, so I don't know if this is a fair assessment or not; just clarifying the issue.

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default ... sid=108940

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Michael Jamison, Carlton, has been charged with a Level Three engaging in rough conduct offence against Ricky Henderson, Adelaide Crows, during the first quarter of the NAB Challenge match between Carlton and the Adelaide Crows, played at Visy Park on Friday March 4, 2011.

In summary, he can accept a two-match sanction with an early plea.

The incident was assessed as negligent conduct (one point), high impact (three points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Three offence, drawing 325 demerit points and a three-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 243.75 points and a two-match sanction.

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Luke Shuey, West Coast, has been charged with a Level One engaging in rough conduct offence against Tom Hunter, Collingwood, during the first quarter of the NAB Cup semi final between West Coast and Collingwood, played at Patersons Stadium on Saturday March 5, 2011.

In summary, he can accept a reprimand and 93.75 points towards his future record with an early plea.

The incident was assessed as negligent conduct (one point), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of four activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level One offence, drawing 125 demerit points and a one-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to a reprimand and 93.75 points towards his future record.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:15 pm 
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The bloke was ball watching…. No raised elbow, didn’t leave the ground…may as well outlaw blocks and shepherds

Tackles should also be banned in favour of…if you are touched you turn the ball over

While we are at it, the balls should be banned and we should play with those soft nerf ball things

I think running should also be banned…players can just walk to prevent high impact collisions

No sport gets tinkered with as much as our great game.

WE have the best spectator sport in the world and I fear the powers that be are going to destroy this.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:32 pm 
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Riewoldt threatens thin Blues line
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/r ... 1bl6q.html

WE'RE DOOMED according to Michael Gleeson

I like how all our defensive players are rooted because of a lack of preparation etc, but Riewoldt is primed to tear us a new one after he plays his first practice match for the year this week :lol: :roll:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:40 pm 
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last time we played the tigers it would not have mattered who play on Riewoldt because we hardly let them get good penetration into their forward line. Thats the key to this game and not who plays on Reiwoldt.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:06 pm 
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My concern about Jamo and Ellard not playing is that we run the risk of playing underdone players ie Henderson and Mclean in the first round -we did that 3 years ago and lost to the Tigers - Richo murdered us -but took a number of underdone players including Judd that night
They will want to push thorton back now to cover Jamison -so need CHF ie Hendo and Ellard has been in and under so will need a similar type in mclean


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:27 pm 
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I think we could just as easily bring in White or Watson for round 1, because I'm struggling to come up with a physically mature second tall for the Tigers.

If we think Laidler can support Bower, bring in White, and if we think Laidler can't handle them, bring in Watto. Swinging Thornton into defence is fine also, and we can play Waite at CHF with the rest ruckman & Walker taking turns out of the square. Tex is big enough to trouble a KPD.

No need to draw upon anyone who's underdone for Richmond.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:05 pm 
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Geez this annoys me. :mad:

Bloody practise matches. The first club to decide to forego them will, IMO, reap
the rewards. I wish we'd just tell the AFL "no thanks". Anything lost in the first
three rounds will more than be made up for in the last six.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:26 pm 
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Megaman wrote:
I like how all our defensive players are rooted because of a lack of preparation etc, but Riewoldt is primed to tear us a new one after he plays his first practice match for the year this week :lol: :roll:


Riewoldt looked pretty up and about sitting in the stand watching our game against the Crows

like 10 goals were about to spew from him

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:47 pm 
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Sorry but this is very, very weak from our administration!
Eddie was able to get Maxwell off and we again just lay down and bent over for very much less.
I now ask, what does the AFL have over us that we cannot stand up for our rights?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:58 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Sorry but this is very, very weak from our administration!
Eddie was able to get Maxwell off and we again just lay down and bent over for very much less.
I now ask, what does the AFL have over us that we cannot stand up for our rights?

Maybe its what other clubs have over us not the AFL...nevertheless Jamo's absence will make no difference to the result....

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:08 pm 
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I actually think its a good move by the club. first 2 rounds we should be able to cover the loss of Jamo. Rouond 3 we genuinely need as many of our best 22 as possible. why risk a 3rd week unnecessarily? take the 2. accept that the game is glorified netball and move on

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:31 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Sorry but this is very, very weak from our administration!
Eddie was able to get Maxwell off and we again just lay down and bent over for very much less.
I now ask, what does the AFL have over us that we cannot stand up for our rights?

Are you talking about 2009?

The AFL changed the rule after that incident.

Try facts instead of outrage.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:38 pm 
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If Jamo being there is the difference between us beating Richmond or not, we're in for a longer year than I am expecting.

Lesson learned for the rest of the team (I'm talking to YOU Waite). Move on.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:23 pm 
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Lurker Blue wrote:
Are you talking about 2009?

The AFL changed the rule after that incident.

Try facts instead of outrage.


Maybe you can explain to me and others how the Jamison hip & shoulder was different to the Embley one? Considering neither hit the other player in the head, fact!
Maybe you can explain to me how Kennedy's snipe was overlooked, yet Jamison's legal bump wasn't?
The facts are they pick and choose who they charge and when. Fact!

As per normal however there are some amongst us who still love towing the AFL line, even after shafting us again and again and again. Flower me we have some either naive or *snip* amongst us these days!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:25 am 
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Lurker Blue wrote:
kezza wrote:
The part i found most interesting was that Luke Shuey only got 93.75 points for his HEAD HIGH BUMP on Keefe who was in hospital with pins and needles. Repeat..........HEAD HIGH BUMP.
The inconsistency is a joke.

The only difference is that the MRP assessed Jammo's as "high impact", and Schuey's as "low impact".

I didn't see either, so I don't know if this is a fair assessment or not; just clarifying the issue.

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default ... sid=108940

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Michael Jamison, Carlton, has been charged with a Level Three engaging in rough conduct offence against Ricky Henderson, Adelaide Crows, during the first quarter of the NAB Challenge match between Carlton and the Adelaide Crows, played at Visy Park on Friday March 4, 2011.

In summary, he can accept a two-match sanction with an early plea.

The incident was assessed as negligent conduct (one point), high impact (three points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Three offence, drawing 325 demerit points and a three-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 243.75 points and a two-match sanction.

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Luke Shuey, West Coast, has been charged with a Level One engaging in rough conduct offence against Tom Hunter, Collingwood, during the first quarter of the NAB Cup semi final between West Coast and Collingwood, played at Patersons Stadium on Saturday March 5, 2011.

In summary, he can accept a reprimand and 93.75 points towards his future record with an early plea.

The incident was assessed as negligent conduct (one point), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of four activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level One offence, drawing 125 demerit points and a one-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to a reprimand and 93.75 points towards his future record.

Yet Tom Hunter spent time in hospital with pins and needles. Obviously they didnt ask for a medical report!


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:42 am 
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Lurker Blue wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Sorry but this is very, very weak from our administration!
Eddie was able to get Maxwell off and we again just lay down and bent over for very much less.
I now ask, what does the AFL have over us that we cannot stand up for our rights?

Are you talking about 2009?

The AFL changed the rule after that incident.

Try facts instead of outrage.


I'm struggling to find what rule Jamison broke? The bump wasn't high.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:43 am 
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TheGame wrote:
Lurker Blue wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Sorry but this is very, very weak from our administration!
Eddie was able to get Maxwell off and we again just lay down and bent over for very much less.
I now ask, what does the AFL have over us that we cannot stand up for our rights?

Are you talking about 2009?

The AFL changed the rule after that incident.

Try facts instead of outrage.


I'm struggling to find what rule Jamison broke? The bump wasn't high.


How do you explain Henderson being knocked out then? It was high.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:08 am 
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TheSwan wrote:

How do you explain Henderson being knocked out then? It was high.


Probably hit his head on the ground which is the cause of most concussions. :wink:
It wasn't high.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:13 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Lurker Blue wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Sorry but this is very, very weak from our administration!
Eddie was able to get Maxwell off and we again just lay down and bent over for very much less.
I now ask, what does the AFL have over us that we cannot stand up for our rights?

Are you talking about 2009?

The AFL changed the rule after that incident.

Try facts instead of outrage.

Maybe you can explain to me and others how the Jamison hip & shoulder was different to the Embley one? Considering neither hit the other player in the head, fact!
Maybe you can explain to me how Kennedy's snipe was overlooked, yet Jamison's legal bump wasn't?
The facts are they pick and choose who they charge and when. Fact!

As per normal however there are some amongst us who still love towing the AFL line, even after shafting us again and again and again. Flower me we have some either naive or *snip* amongst us these days!

You asked about the Maxwell incident, not the others.

I agree there are inconsistencies in the MRP, but I don't think it's all part of some grand AFL conspiracy against us.

You say that makes me naive, I say that theory is both paranoid, and delusional.

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