The MRP and Tribunal has repeatedly stated that there is no such thing as precedent as far as they're concerned.

So it beats me why people get upset when they don't seem to follow precedent in these cases.

They will always be inconsistent, and it's not part of some grand plan to nobble us.

But it's a pretty sub-optimal situation to have a rule which effectively states: "You're perfectly within your rights to lay a massive bump on your opponent. Go right ahead, it's part of our great game. BUT, if your opponent happens to hurt his head as a result, we'll shoot you at dawn."

It makes it pretty confusing for the games followers. Does the AFL want the bump to remain, or not? Because they're a bit half-pregnant on it right now.

Depends on who you think is running the game.

The AFL Commission or the Mums watching little their Johnny playing in the local Under 10s.

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Winston Churchill

The criteria that Jamo was assessed on is as follows:

His action was negligent ,
The contact was high,
The impact was high.

You need to try and change one of that criteria to have any chance of getting a reduction in penalty. Considering the guy was carried off on a strecther and did not move for about 5 minutes anyone that thinks that criteria is not applicable has got rocks in his head. You can't argue that he did not mean to make contact with the head.

From what I saw;

1. The contact was not high, ie. not above the shoulders.
2. The impact wasn't high, ie. Jamison did not hit him in the head.

A perfect hip and shoulder to the opponents side. The cause of him getting knocked out was due to him hitting the ground from a perfect legitimate hip and shoulder, with no impact from Jamison to the head of his opponent.
Fact.

Unless ofcourse the AFL have a different camera angle.

From where I'm sitting you're half right Surrey; he made a legitimate shepherd with reasonable force, but after impact Henderson's head clattered into Jamison's collarbone. I'm sure that provided some head trauma.

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20 ways to see the world,
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No wonder he got knocked out if his head makes a clattering sound.

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Touché.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

You must have rocks in your head Surrey as apparently you can't get seriously injure someone while playing within the rules.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

The AFL and tribunal have made it clear over the last 2 years that if you choose to make contact and bump then you're responsible for the consequences of that bump. If a guy gets a concussion and it takes 5mins for them to load him on a stretcher then you're in trouble.

It may not be right or fair or logical....but thats how it is.

I can't see what its so difficult to understand.

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

At least Carlton has learnt over Judd's suspension.

Might as well always go the early plea unless its a grand final on the line.

As the rules stand he hadto go which is bad for Jamo and us - hopefully he learns from it and doesnt get in a bad habit of doing this.

yeah would hate for him to get in the habit of laying a sheperd for his teammates

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Exactly my frustration Gro. How the hell are we going to get better with this part of our game if this kind of shit keeps being thrown at us, especially when it was as legit as they come. Bloody frustrating.

Surrey, which part of this don't you understand? Its been happening to EVERYONE for 2 years....its not just us.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

yeah the game has been ruined for everyone

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Need to ensure you cause internal injuries to the torso, not the head, obviously..and you're good to go!

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It's difficult to understand because they cleared Embley and Shuey who put two players in hospital.





Henderson returned to the bench for the rest of the match.

Jamison's bump wasn't a patch on the other "hits" and a dog act.

Players need to learn that football isn't always a contact sport.

I saw a seagull shit on his head just before impact.

Why did Embley get off? If the bump is dead then it's got to be dead across the board. Make the rule "You can't bump".

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

No contact to the head.