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Synbad
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But according to that Hulme and Franchina are exactly what we need right now cos theyre an extra two players in our 100 game club midfield rotation along with Clarke...

Just making a point that some of these statistics are garbage!!!

You can bring out statistics to illustrate anything ....but it doesnt mean theyre right.
Jarusa style statistics just tells me he is a modern day Erich von Daniken doing his own TC version of 'Chariots of the Gods'


Synbad, as I mentioned to Sheik I initially offered no commentary on those stats, and to me those stats support the fact that the 'stat indicators for premierships' are rubbish and that we are a long way off.

If you think those stats mean we are close to winning a premiership you need some more Ritalin.


Jarusa noone looks at those as stat indicators for premierships..

People watch a game and see how functional a club is with the personal it has available on the field and the promise in develpoment in its youth...

Noone goes to check statistics to see how far away their club is...

Thats my point.

I dont think those stats mean jack.. thats why it wasnt me that posted them up in a way that they may mean something....

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The problem is our best player is 32 and 4 or 5 years past his prime. I honestly don't believe we will be contenders till Thornton and Waite are in their late 20's and have a group of good young players in their mid 20's.

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Deano Supremo said it... "Cooney Griffen and Minson can lead them to a flag".. about the Doggies..

Yet cracked the shits when it was pointed out to him 2 of the 3 are priority picks. :lol:

Jarusa does love a stat.
Jarusa views football through stats... but not all of them mind you.. just the silly ones.

For example he never has illustrated when was the last time a club that has had a percentage of around 70% for four years straight has won the flag without early picks...

I like to win meaningful games and read meaningful stats .


I only cracked the shits 'cos you lead one of the few threads on this bloody board that isn't about priority bloody picks into a discussion about priority bloody picks.

Change the record Synbad, this one's broken.


You better pray we lose for the long term benefit of this footy club and not just the ridiculous short sighted wants of some...

when you talk about premierships ultimately youre not talking about 100 game players..
youre talking about talent.

no talent???
no premierships.!!!

i can think of one way to bring in talent today...

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Synbad wrote:
Deano Supremo wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Deano Supremo said it... "Cooney Griffen and Minson can lead them to a flag".. about the Doggies..

Yet cracked the shits when it was pointed out to him 2 of the 3 are priority picks. :lol:

Jarusa does love a stat.
Jarusa views football through stats... but not all of them mind you.. just the silly ones.

For example he never has illustrated when was the last time a club that has had a percentage of around 70% for four years straight has won the flag without early picks...

I like to win meaningful games and read meaningful stats .


I only cracked the shits 'cos you lead one of the few threads on this bloody board that isn't about priority bloody picks into a discussion about priority bloody picks.

Change the record Synbad, this one's broken.


You better pray we lose for the long term benefit of this footy club and not just the ridiculous short sighted wants of some...

when you talk about premierships ultimately youre not talking about 100 game players..
youre talking about talent.

no talent???
no premierships.!!!

i can think of one way to bring in talent today...


Well, feel free to be at the 'G, in your Blues stuff, cheering for us to lose.....

Run along now...

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Synbad wrote:
Deano Supremo wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Deano Supremo said it... "Cooney Griffen and Minson can lead them to a flag".. about the Doggies..

Yet cracked the shits when it was pointed out to him 2 of the 3 are priority picks. :lol:

Jarusa does love a stat.
Jarusa views football through stats... but not all of them mind you.. just the silly ones.

For example he never has illustrated when was the last time a club that has had a percentage of around 70% for four years straight has won the flag without early picks...

I like to win meaningful games and read meaningful stats .


I only cracked the shits 'cos you lead one of the few threads on this bloody board that isn't about priority bloody picks into a discussion about priority bloody picks.

Change the record Synbad, this one's broken.


You better pray we lose for the long term benefit of this footy club and not just the ridiculous short sighted wants of some...

when you talk about premierships ultimately youre not talking about 100 game players..
youre talking about talent.

no talent???
no premierships.!!!

i can think of one way to bring in talent today...


Do you even read the posts you're responding too?

All I questioned was the need to turn every f*cking thread into a discussion about priority picks.

I know your opinion. I know what you want Carlton to do. Stop ramming it down my f*cking throat in every friggin' thread.

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Jarusa
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Synbad wrote:
Jarusa wrote:
Synbad wrote:
But according to that Hulme and Franchina are exactly what we need right now cos theyre an extra two players in our 100 game club midfield rotation along with Clarke...

Just making a point that some of these statistics are garbage!!!

You can bring out statistics to illustrate anything ....but it doesnt mean theyre right.
Jarusa style statistics just tells me he is a modern day Erich von Daniken doing his own TC version of 'Chariots of the Gods'


Synbad, as I mentioned to Sheik I initially offered no commentary on those stats, and to me those stats support the fact that the 'stat indicators for premierships' are rubbish and that we are a long way off.

If you think those stats mean we are close to winning a premiership you need some more Ritalin.


Jarusa noone looks at those as stat indicators for premierships..

People watch a game and see how functional a club is with the personal it has available on the field and the promise in develpoment in its youth...

Noone goes to check statistics to see how far away their club is...

Thats my point.

I dont think those stats mean jack.. thats why it wasnt me that posted them up in a way that they may mean something....


I agree that those stats mean jack. But disagree about not putting them up for that reason.

They are put up to create a discussion, and I did not want to 'Lead' the discussion by putting any opinion in there.

So some people could say they were shit and some people could say they might mean something. Just intended to get a discussion going on what does and does not have meaning for premierships.

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Deano Supremo wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Deano Supremo wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Deano Supremo said it... "Cooney Griffen and Minson can lead them to a flag".. about the Doggies..

Yet cracked the shits when it was pointed out to him 2 of the 3 are priority picks. :lol:

Jarusa does love a stat.
Jarusa views football through stats... but not all of them mind you.. just the silly ones.

For example he never has illustrated when was the last time a club that has had a percentage of around 70% for four years straight has won the flag without early picks...

I like to win meaningful games and read meaningful stats .


I only cracked the shits 'cos you lead one of the few threads on this bloody board that isn't about priority bloody picks into a discussion about priority bloody picks.

Change the record Synbad, this one's broken.


You better pray we lose for the long term benefit of this footy club and not just the ridiculous short sighted wants of some...

when you talk about premierships ultimately youre not talking about 100 game players..
youre talking about talent.

no talent???
no premierships.!!!

i can think of one way to bring in talent today...


Do you even read the posts you're responding too?

All I questioned was the need to turn every f*cking thread into a discussion about priority picks.

I know your opinion. I know what you want Carlton to do. Stop ramming it down my f*cking throat in every friggin' thread.


Stop persecuting me....

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Jarusa wrote:
Synbad, as I mentioned to Sheik I initially offered no commentary on those stats, and to me those stats support the fact that the 'stat indicators for premierships' are rubbish and that we are a long way off.


You may not have come out and said that directly but you did name Fev with 47 goals when you need 50 and 8 guys who have played 100 games when you need 10, if that isn't trying to say something then I don't know what is.

Be that as it may, those supposed premiership indicators paint a very different picture to what the truth of the matter is. We need better players to win a flag - end of story.

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Your entitled to your opinion Sheik, but those things you mentioned are facts rather than opinion.

And facts that make the premiership indicators look pretty silly if you would like an opinion. Just because Fev might kick 50 goals really means jack, and has done for the last 2 years as well, it is your 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc, highest goalkickers that provide mutliple options that are more important I would imagine.

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Jarusa wrote:
Please show me anywhere in that post where I gave any commentary about how far away those stats put Carlton from a premiership?

Making statements like you just have makes you look foolish Sheik.

I did not give my opinion in the original post as I was interested in seeing other people's opinions.

In my opinion these numbers say a couple of things.

The factors cited in the Age article are pretty poor indicators, especially the average age and experience figures.

Looking at specific factors such as the 100 game criteria, Carlton is a long way behind. No surpirses there.

Feel free to continue living in your fantasy world, it is entertaining for all concerned.


Of course you wouldn't give your opinion, it's far easier to sit on the fence like you always do.

I'll happily live in my fantasy world, strangely enough, there are others who live in it as well and share the same opinion.

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Jarusa wrote:
Your entitled to your opinion Sheik, but those things you mentioned are facts rather than opinion.

And facts that make the premiership indicators look pretty silly if you would like an opinion. Just because Fev might kick 50 goals really means jack, and has done for the last 2 years as well, it is your 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc, highest goalkickers that provide mutliple options that are more important I would imagine.


You have given an opinion ??? :shock:

Will wonders never cease ??

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Synbad wrote:
Deano Supremo wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Deano Supremo wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Deano Supremo said it... "Cooney Griffen and Minson can lead them to a flag".. about the Doggies..

Yet cracked the shits when it was pointed out to him 2 of the 3 are priority picks. :lol:

Jarusa does love a stat.
Jarusa views football through stats... but not all of them mind you.. just the silly ones.

For example he never has illustrated when was the last time a club that has had a percentage of around 70% for four years straight has won the flag without early picks...

I like to win meaningful games and read meaningful stats .


I only cracked the shits 'cos you lead one of the few threads on this bloody board that isn't about priority bloody picks into a discussion about priority bloody picks.

Change the record Synbad, this one's broken.


You better pray we lose for the long term benefit of this footy club and not just the ridiculous short sighted wants of some...

when you talk about premierships ultimately youre not talking about 100 game players..
youre talking about talent.

no talent???
no premierships.!!!

i can think of one way to bring in talent today...


Do you even read the posts you're responding too?

All I questioned was the need to turn every f*cking thread into a discussion about priority picks.

I know your opinion. I know what you want Carlton to do. Stop ramming it down my f*cking throat in every friggin' thread.


Stop persecuting me....


Now that's funny.

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Jarusa wrote:
Your entitled to your opinion Sheik, but those things you mentioned are facts rather than opinion.


I think that's what's called in courtroom jargon as 'leading the witness'. :-D

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Looks like you and I were the only two people to read the article Jarusa. Clearly, the comments of others in this thread are pure comedy. It's funny how people just start typing without actually reading.

I know it was a long article, but come on guys...if you want to debate something at least spend some time reading the link, thus putting the original post into perspective.

It's not that hard kids!
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Looks like you and I were the only two people to read the article Jarusa. Clearly, the comments of others in this thread are pure comedy. It's funny how people just start typing without actually reading.

I know it was a long article, but come on guys...if you want to debate something at least spend some time reading the link, thus putting the original post into perspective.

It's not that hard kids!


'What it takes to win a premiership' was the heading...

and you threw in the word "luck" as being interesting to you from Carey...

But Carey would have said "a heap of talent and some luck".. which i would agree with considering North had a heap of talent too...(including the greatest CHF ever).. wasnt just luck...

I wonder why the word "luck" caught your attention that much from a whole Carey interview about stuff inclusing premierships..

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Looks like you and I were the only two people to read the article Jarusa. Clearly, the comments of others in this thread are pure comedy. It's funny how people just start typing without actually reading.

I know it was a long article, but come on guys...if you want to debate something at least spend some time reading the link, thus putting the original post into perspective.

It's not that hard kids!


You were right verbs...plus guessing at what Carey "said" :lol: :lol: :lol: considering he hosts the show and does the interviewing. :oops:
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Ok verbs so assuming youre right ... you mean to say if you put the whole thing into context Carey believes the luckiest football side each year wins the flag???

Oh you crack me up verbs!!!

Youre funny...... the problem is you dont want to be funny do you verbs???...

too bad!!!.. cos you are!!!! :lol:

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verbs wrote:
Looks like you and I were the only two people to read the article Jarusa. Clearly, the comments of others in this thread are pure comedy. It's funny how people just start typing without actually reading.

I know it was a long article, but come on guys...if you want to debate something at least spend some time reading the link, thus putting the original post into perspective.

It's not that hard kids!


You were right verbs...plus guessing at what Carey "said" :lol: :lol: :lol: considering he hosts the show and does the interviewing. :oops:


What do you reckon verbs? Do you reckon many people watch Fox Footy?

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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verbs wrote:
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Looks like you and I were the only two people to read the article Jarusa. Clearly, the comments of others in this thread are pure comedy. It's funny how people just start typing without actually reading.

I know it was a long article, but come on guys...if you want to debate something at least spend some time reading the link, thus putting the original post into perspective.

It's not that hard kids!


You were right verbs...plus guessing at what Carey "said" :lol: :lol: :lol: considering he hosts the show and does the interviewing. :oops:


What do you reckon verbs? Do you reckon many people watch Fox Footy?

:lol: :lol: :lol:



verbs she is here.....

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Synbad... and others.

Who would you consider is in our leadership group now?

and who do you think has the potential to be in the leadership group?


potential for leadership group- thornton, bentick... and?
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