I have been saying this for the last two years, have you been reading my posts elsewhere ??

If we were to unearth genuine CHB & FB, then Thornton would be relegated to taking the third forward, a Hamill or Bradshaw type of player. His performances would improve immensely as he would be better matched to the opposition player instead of trying to beat a guy who is infinitely taller & heavier than he is.

But no, all and sundry believe Thornton is a bone-fide FB or CHB and no amount of discussion will change that view. The fact that he is around the 189-190cm mark should have been somes sort of an indicator even to those with the tunnelvision.

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Have no problem with Walker or any of the other young guys ,it's the more established ones that i am concerned about.

Thornton has been at the club a few years now and seems to be going backwards.Not big enough (bulk) to play full back consistantly at present and i'mm not sure he will be able to gain the extra beef even over the next few years.Be happy to be proven wrong but i don't think he has the type of build for that.

Sorry Sheik ,haven't read your posts before -just putting my 2 cents worth in (great minds...)

Young players are remarkable consistent aren't they? I think we should all expect them to play at there very best every single game without any kind of help from more experienced players. Because if they aren't consistent they have to be duds and then we would all be stuck in a dark dark hole for a decade.

Oh and shouldn't half of you be celebrating. We lost, yay! Synbad join in the discussion. Tell us how losing is actually winning and that Marc Murphy, a 178 cm skinny kid, is going to save us all.

Don't apologise, I'm rapt that someone else is prepared to make the comment. For far too long, I have read people suggest that our defensive is fine even though we have undersized players manning up on opposition bohemoths. Our whole spine is wrong and needs to be fixed first and foremost, that has always been my main bone of contention.

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Sheik easier said than done..

youre just pointing out the obvious.
Come to me with solutions not pointing out the obvious.

who will you take for the spine with picks 1 and 4 and on what form??
what have you seen from them to suggest youd take those players..???



BTW Thornton isnt shit he is not 100% and has had an injury riddled season.
We didnt get killed on sdize we got killed on talent and passion..

And Walker will be a gun...

Too bad the midfield just didnt tighten up and made Walz chase shadows ..
Fancy Campo allowing a kid like Ricky Dyson to rip us up...

Unaccountable footy and Campo is really on the edge of reality at the moment...

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Any takers for Campo?

Depends which way you look at it.

At least the bloke cares when he gets beaten.

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Congratulations CK95

And if we trade Thornton who do you suggest we play at FB or CHB?

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Synbad,How about something along these lines

Trade some of these players that are undersize/under talented but withsome currency for a few more draft picks (as high as possible) and seeing as this years draft is supposedly very shallow ,trade those picks for the best established players we can get from other clubs while targeting our specific needs.Keep as many of our existing draft picks for the drafting of the best available talent.

Established players should be no older than 25 yrs and have leadership potential where possible.

Just a start perhaps

If theyre undersized underskilled for the bottom side how come someone else will part with something of value for them????

Look its all fairyland stuff...
Winning games to be competitive with this unit..
trading shit for diamonds..
winning a premiership without good picks/talent
No leadership or older players but we will still be ok....

There is only one solution... add 2 in the top 4 young kids in the land and hopefully another in the top 10... do the same where we can next year .. best uncontracted players....and bide our time developing them the best we can....waiting for them to mature..

I know it will take time.. but everything great does.. as long as we plan for greatness... and thats not with average draft picks/ average players

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Your right on there Synbad

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The only reason they say 'women and children first' is to test the strength of the lifeboats.

I'm not advocating we trade him, I just want us to recruit some big lugs to help him out down back. If he was on the third forward rather than the first, he'd be an even better player than what he has been thus far.

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Unfortunately that's easier said then done. How many big lug quality defenders are available these days? They're not exactly a dime a dozen after all.

Thornton recorded his 4th tackle for the year today & is ranked last in the team.

Can't believe this discussion on leadership has only mentioned Kouta a couple of times!!

His performance as a captain yesterday was the worst I've seen as a blues supporter. He may have had a bad game on the field but his leadership was woeful!!

Half-time - he was happy to walk off but it was Campo and Stevens that held the group back and Campo was the one to give the players a serve.

At one stage AB smothered a ball and saw it over the boundary - not one player came up to him and Camop had to tell others to go over and give him some support!! Pathetic culture in this team!!!!!

Kouta's body language is a joke. It's ok if he wants to strut around and hang his head if he is not captain - but this guy accepted the job and needs to act like a leader (clearly he is not one naturally!!). We HAVE to select a new captain for next year. I would rather have Wiggins as captain next year than Kouta such was his effort yesterday!!

Wasn't v the bombers but Thornton looks like he's just been informed of his mother's death when someone outmarks him. The boy's a goood handy player but he's gotta drop that shite.

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

Every time we lose, it's easy to predict the Fev, Houlas and Kouta bagging.

Fev doesn't care, he's not worth the money, trade him , blah, blah, blah ...

Houlas - it's his fault because he played, not hard enough, it's his fault because he's not playing, blah, blah, blah ...

Kouta - too old, doesn't care, bad captain, blah, blah, blah ...

Seriously guys, come up with a different tune. Key forwards need the ball kicked to their advantage some of the time. If Houlas doesn't deserve a game in front of half a dozen of what we called a team yeaterday I'll be amazed. And Kouta ... clearly our best all season, one of the greats and time people gave him a bit of respect. Scumbag Bolton scragged him out of every contest / stoppage yesterday and he got absolutely no protection from the umpires (who were as bad as I've seen this year).

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In WADA we trust

Yep, Fev was terrific yesterday, midfield was shite, passes to him were poor but he battled manfully and gave it his best when the ball went to ground. His second efforts carry the lad. Great efforts, great example set.

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

1. He needs to work on improving all areas of his game in the 2's
2. He has to earn himself a place in the team again & they decided to persist with the same guys. I doubt they'll do that this week.