THE FINE PRINT...
Arguably the most improved player in the AFL in 2004, he achieved the rare honour of winning a best and fairest in his first year at his new club. The former Kangaroo wasted no time settling into the defence for Carlton and reaped the rewards for his hard approach at the ball. Finished in Carlton's top five for contested marks, tackles and rebounds from 50 and relished the chance to rejoin his old coach Denis Pagan.
Won the 2004 John Nicholls Medal (Carlton Best & Fairest Award).

Games: 55 (22 with Carlton) Goals: 5 (1 with Carlton)

Previous AFL club: Kangaroos (2001-03: 33 games, 4 goals).

Draft history: 2001 rookie elevation (Kangaroos); 2003 National AFL Draft traded by the Kangaroos for Corey McKernan.




PLAYER HONORS
Player honours: Best and fairest 2004



SEASON MATCH STATS
Brownlow Medal: 2004 votes 7; career votes 10.


Click here to check out the 2005 Carlton Dream Team rankings

Player Statistics - David Teague
Season
AFL 2005 Premiership Season

Round Date vs. K H P M HO T FF FA G B
Round 1 - Easter & Season Launch 26/03/2005 Kangaroos 7 2 9 3 0 3 2 0 0 0
Round 2 01/04/2005 Essendon* 6 6 12 2 0 6 3 0 0 1
Round 3 - Rivalry Round 09/04/2005 Collingwood 7 3 10 3 0 6 0 0 0 0
Round 4 16/04/2005 Port Adelaide 8 1 9 5 0 5 0 0 0 0
Round 5 - Anzac Day 23/04/2005 Fremantle 9 7 16 5 0 2 2 0 0 0
Round 6 29/04/2005 Hawthorn 8 4 12 5 0 0 1 0 0 1
Round 7 - Mothers Day 07/05/2005 Richmond 9 2 11 4 0 2 0 1 0 0
Round 8 13/05/2005 Geelong 8 8 16 3 0 4 1 0 0 0
Round 9 - Community Weekend 21/05/2005 Melbourne 8 3 11 2 0 2 0 1 0 0
Round 10 29/05/2005 Adelaide 8 1 9 5 0 4 1 1 0 0
Round 11 04/06/2005 Sydney Swans 5 2 7 1 0 3 1 0 1 0
Round 12 - Queens Birthday 11/06/2005 Brisbane Lions 2 1 3 1 0 2 0 0 0 0
Round 14 - Family Round 02/07/2005 West Coast Eagles 10 2 12 10 1 4 1 0 0 0
Round 15 10/07/2005 St Kilda 10 4 14 4 0 4 2 1 0 0
Round 16 17/07/2005 Fremantle 8 4 12 3 0 2 2 0 0 0
Round 17 23/07/2005 Hawthorn 0 4 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Round 18 31/07/2005 Richmond 7 4 11 5 0 4 0 1 0 0
Round 19 07/08/2005 Port Adelaide 8 3 11 3 0 4 0 2 0 0
Round 20 - Heritage Round 13/08/2005 Collingwood 7 1 8 3 0 3 1 1 0 0
Round 21 21/08/2005 Essendon*

Shudder!! Poor Lappin was given shit all respect and this guy won our bnf. Sorry for being too negative but is it me or should we be expecting more from a b&f winner. What a joke.

Among those stats has been a shit load of clangers, goals kicked against.
I must say, scotland has been better of late and can honestly say he was a good pickup. I know everyone was pleased when he won when I thought he should have come about 7th and Lappin 1st.

Could the unbelievable happen and Teague is one of many culled at seasons end?

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Lappin should have won last year.Teague has been found out in 2005 and Laidley's decision to cull him may not be a dumb move after all although Macca should of retired 2 years ago.

He'll be around in 2006, don't worry.

A couple of problems have compounded his season:

1) complete lack of accountability in the midfield, meaning T's opponent is always on the lead, where T is at his worst. he's good in the air, and so a strong tackling midfield will help T play at his best.

2) playing on second or third best forward as distinct from fourth best. sometimes this appears to be by design of the Coach, perhaps testing him a bit more?

I'm not saying he's going to star for anyone, or improve, but our style in 2005 hasn't helped him play to his strengths one iota.

Teague has been a victim of a couple of things this season.

Having to play as the 2nd tall and closer to goal on many times. Teague is best playing on the 3rd or 4th defender and being 3rd man up in contests, using his courgae to back into packs and spoil

The injuries to Livo and T-Bird and Norman not stepping up to the plate this season have contributed to this. Example includes being asked to play on Stafford or Simmonds against Richmond, giving up about 14cm in height.

The lack of pressure and accountability in the midfield has been enormous. At the rate the ball is coming in everyone has been getting goals kicked against them. This has a two-fold effect. Not only is Teague's direct opponant getting great delivery, but Teague, and many of our other defenders, have also been forced to make a choice between staying on their man or picking up loose opposition midfielder's. Example was against Melbourne. Yes Robertson beat Teague a few times, but he also got a couple of easy ones when Teague tried to intercept Melbourne's loose midfielder's.

He's not on his own having Robertson kick a bag on him this season either.

Next season hopefully Livo and T-Bird can be more settled and we might be able to recruit or develop another tall defender so Teague can get back to doing what he does well.

Having just defended him it was a blight on our B&F system that he beat Lappin last year. Probably would have finished Top 5 ideally, but Lappin was clearly our best player.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Inaugral winner of the Corey McKernan medal.

Wins B&F and is gone end of next season. Wonder how many playes have achieved this at other clubs?

Teague is not the future. Will be replaced by Hartlett or hopefully Drum next year if he survives the cull.

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Mjonc signing off at 8888

In the role he's played this season...hopefully he can be replaced by Hartlett next season. That will allow him to play the role he won a B&F in.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Nobody is going to let him play that role. Same for Jason Cloke after having 1 good year. If a defender is not accountable for his player and zones off or has a pace problem then they are dragged to the goal square all the time.
If he cant play on a tall or a qucik player then there is not really to many slow 6 footers playing forward these days for him to match up on.

Playing out of the goalsquare on Chris Tarrant or Scott Lucas is different to playing out of the square on Andrew Williams or Ted Richards. Once we get our KP sorted out then Teague can start zoning off the 3rd or 4th option again and helping Livo and T-Bird.

Once we have an accountable midfield thats winning its share of the ball there won't be as much pressure either.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Ted Richards played at the weekend and Andrew Williams won't have a club next year. Teague as gutsy as he is wil not be the solution as our third tall defender or a running half back. Remember Russell will step up next year across half back also so there is competition for that spot also.

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Mjonc signing off at 8888

Teague has been given some shit jobs this year.
Sandilands, Stafford etc etc.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

Lack of pace is his biggest problem which he needs to overcome. Opposition coaches have exploited his lack of pace by placing faster leading forwards on him. Perhaps he should experiment by playing a metre or so in front of faster forwards.

I think the fall of Teague in 2005 has been 2 pronged,

1. Because of our lack of talls, he has been asked to play on much taller opponents such as Sandilands and Stafford. He's only 188cm and can't obviously compete with these 195-200cm types.

2. Teams are paying more attention to him and have worked him out.

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Twitter - @johnfeeney24

I think your second comment PJ hits the nail on the head. It's not that he plays on talls, it's the fact that opposition teams play talls up forward so they get the mismatch they want. Question is can Teague develop new strings to his bow? His future relies on this.

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Mjonc signing off at 8888

Opposition teams play talls up forward so.....he has to play on talls.

We need another tall defender, last season Norman stood up. If Hartlett can progress or we can recruit a tall defender Teague goes back to playing on the 4th forward....unless the opposition want to play 4 195cm+ forwards.

I think the biggest factor has been the appalling lack of pressure in the midfield anyway.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

I think he will stay.

He has been exposed by our lack of depth more so than by opposition coaches. Remember it is up to DP who he plays on in defence. But we just do not have the talent down back and it is a massive problem. We are going to have our best attacking year in terms of goals for 4 years this year but one of our worst in defence on record - along with 2003.

I don't think it'd be fair on Teague if Denis gave him the chop at season's end.

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Twitter - @johnfeeney24

I went through my list last night of delistings and Teague survived the cut just.

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Mjonc signing off at 8888

I would have thought he would have made the cut but a fair bit.

Granted his form hasn't been 2004-esque, but he has been severely disadvantged by things that are out of his control.

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Writer for SuperCoach Paige www.scpaige.com.au
Twitter - @johnfeeney24

I think Teague will get one more year, there are many worse than him. I love his courage but just think he has rarely had a great game this year. I too think he can be more valuable with better support.

I also hope thornton can improve next year but his form is understandable with injuries and whatnot.

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I rephrase that. There are some worse than him. At critical points this year, he has f....d things up too many times. Last chance next year. The question is, is he capable of 2004 again.

I highly doubt it, but we'll see.

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