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I am convinced that Carlton will never move forward until we get rid of Whitnall, Campo, Lappin and Koutoufides. They historically have performed better around contract time, and then slack off. I think they are sulky and unprofessional and just don't care. as much as I despise Nathan Buckley he always gives 100% in every game and gets really pissed off with himself when he doesn't. They are not the sort of athletes and professional athletes that STRIVE to better themselves, but rather content and happy if they have played well. I want a player to have the attitutude of " This week I got 25 possessions, next week I want 30" for example. Harsh as it may guys, realistically these players are tarnishing the younger players and showing them the example of just doing your little bit and getting through. You may all say that "geez, whitnall and Campo, Kouta have played well the last few months" but where the hell have they been at the start of the year. You cant tune in and tune out when you want. You cannot visit the fat farm at the end of the year to get your body right, why not look after yourself throughout the year instead. Could not be bothered, not disciplined thats why.


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crap he shows some emotion, and talks a lot to the players out on the ground.


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crap no he doesnt. He is exactly the same. Whitnal shows the most from what ive seen. Ther have been plenty of disapearing acts by Stevens this year.

Look i like them all but if you are going to say what you single out players then look at them all and not just the usual scapegoats.


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IMO, there's pre-Pagan and post-Pagan. The pre-Pagan senior players need to be shipped out or finished before we can move forward IMO. I've said it before but attitude is an amazing thing - amazing what we could do if everyone was right behind a single goal and IMO I'm seeing senior player dissent.

This is just my opinion, whether or not it's true, well, i hope it isn't.

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Lappin hasnt played in a senior premiership and wont at the blues even if he gets 3 years.He is probably pissed off that he didnt win the big nic that he should have won in 2004 and playing in shit teams for 3 years.

Lappin is 30 next year and should try to play for a flag chance whether that is an afl team or Edenhope-Apsley(dont go there skinny their shit as well)


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IMO, there's pre-Pagan and post-Pagan. The pre-Pagan senior players need to be shipped out or finished before we can move forward IMO. I've said it before but attitude is an amazing thing - amazing what we could do if everyone was right behind a single goal and IMO I'm seeing senior player dissent.

This is just my opinion, whether or not it's true, well, i hope it isn't.



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