Fevola Finished at Carlton

Manchester City Blues! · **Joined:** Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:13 am **Posts:** 130

get JUDD

swap Fev and pick 4 for judd
swap fev and pick 4 and pick 20 for Judd
WE CAN DO THIS..
JUDDDDDdd

Dukes · **Posted:** Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:58 am

phoenix johnson wrote:

A small rumour, but a rumour nevertheless.

Fevola > St.Kilda
Montagna, Goddard and Pick 16(?) > Carlton

Probably the best of the realistic deals put forward ... I suppose we could on-trade the pick for a player such as Polak and fix our back half with both Goddard AND Polak. Still a question of who would kick the goals ... so would say no ... but an interesting deal.

camel · **Posted:** Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:59 am

JuzzCarlton wrote:

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,16730828%255E19742,00.htmlBlues wait for Whitnall

Quote:

27 September 2005 Herald Sun
Jim Wilson

CARLTON is awaiting out-of-contract forward Lance Whitnall to return from overseas this week before resuming talks.
The Blues are hoping the latest offer of about $350,000 a season will be enough to keep the 26-year-old at Optus Oval.

But chief executive Michael Malouf refused to guarantee Brendan Fevola would be at the club next season.

Fevola signed a new three-year deal worth about $1.5 million earlier this season, but the Blues are continuing to explore the possibility of offloading the forward.

"He's a contracted player but I can't categorically say he'll be at the club next year," Malouf said. "Every player on the list is subject to discussion."

No Fev, Lance or Lappin! It's the end of the Carlton Football Club! :roll:

Trade them all if it can get the club back on it's feet quickly and god forbid, we may finish bottom four without them.
Simply Red's appropriate - Money's too tight too mention! :oops:

We're offering Lance $350K a year. :shock:

And he's sayng no! :shock:

Dukes · **Posted:** Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:02 am

Agreed ... $350k is WAAAAAAY too much!!!

Also, love how the contract figures suddenly inflate within months to suit the purposes of the media story. When Fev signed I'm sure it was widely quoted as around $1.2m ... all of a sudden it's at $1.5m and rising!

Stefchook · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:36 am **Posts:** 8190

Dukes wrote:

phoenix johnson wrote:

A small rumour, but a rumour nevertheless.

Fevola > St.Kilda
Montagna, Goddard and Pick 16(?) > Carlton

Probably the best of the realistic deals put forward

I agree. Not sure whether it'll go ahead, but I could live with it. Both Goddard and Montagna have real talent (both have 'weapons' to hurt the opposition with), and a first round pick.

I hope we don't move Fev on, but if we do, this isn't too bad.

St Fidelius · **Joined:** Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:47 pm **Posts:** 321

I hope Fev stays with you lot as well..

Not wanting to sound disrespectful, but this guy has near no second effort

mikey_m · **Joined:** Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:25 am **Posts:** 787

St Fidelius wrote:

I hope Fev stays with you lot as well..

Not wanting to sound disrespectful, but this guy has near no second effort

Yet he still had twice as many tackles as Gehrig and Richardson.

Elwood Blues1 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:10 am **Posts:** 4827

Not wanting to sound disrespectful either bit Montagna isnt the sort of player we need at carlton for a variety of reasons and Brendon Goddard while promising hasnt fullfilled that promise or looked like a top ten pick if you compare him to Hodge, Ball Judd, Cooney, Deledio etc.
Fev has his problems but key forwards are not easy to get so we wont be giving him away....not for the likes of a soft front runner like Montagna anyway...

thegezman · **Posted:** Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:56 am

what about pick 16, goddard and fisher?

getting close?

pick 16 isn't really that good is it

camel · **Posted:** Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:00 pm

St Fidelius wrote:

I hope Fev stays with you lot as well..

Not wanting to sound disrespectful, but this guy has near no second effort

FWIW I reckon Fev is harshly judged on this aspect of his game. I admit there are times when he does himself no favours, but IMO, generally speaking his second efforts have been acceptable right through out his career. It the inconsistency of application that is the biggest issue I think. I know that kind of counters my own comments, but I think it is the best way to describe him.

Blues2005 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:50 pm **Posts:** 2123

camelboy wrote:

St Fidelius wrote:

I hope Fev stays with you lot as well..

Not wanting to sound disrespectful, but this guy has near no second effort

FWIW I reckon Fev is harshly judged on this aspect of his game. I admit there are times when he does himself no favours, but IMO, generally speaking his second efforts have been acceptable right through out his career. It the inconsistency of application that is the biggest issue I think. I know that kind of counters my own comments, but I think it is the best way to describe him.

I think Fev is harshly judged. Some of his second efforts this season were actually pretty good. The problem is that there is a perception that Fev is a lazy footballer so it's easy for people to look at isolated incidents of questionable effort as vindication of their point, when in reality the majority of the time Fev's second efforts are actually pretty genuine.

Knackers · **Joined:** Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:27 pm **Posts:** 597

mikey_m wrote:

St Fidelius wrote:

I hope Fev stays with you lot as well..

Not wanting to sound disrespectful, but this guy has near no second effort

Yet he still had twice as many tackles as Gehrig and Richardson.

Add Nathan Thompson, Matthew Lloyd, Barry Hall and Matthew Pavlich to that list. The NO second effort thing really shits me. Too many people simply accept the crap that comes out of the media without question. I remember watching the Freo game with a mate and we decided to pay particular attention to Fev, without kicking one himself, he was involved in our first six... but the moment he drops his head the circus is on to him.

nightcrawler · **Joined:** Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:48 am **Posts:** 2891

St Fidelius wrote:

I hope Fev stays with you lot as well..

Not wanting to sound disrespectful, but this guy has near no second effort

Not wanting to sound disrespectful, but you shouldn't believe all the hype about Fev's poor second efforts. He still laid more than three times as many tackles as Gehrig (they guy he would notionally be replacing) last season from fewer games.

Games Tackles
Fevola 19 39

Gehrig 21 11

Would really prefer to keep him unless the deal was something special.

McKaysMistress · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:14 pm **Posts:** 217

We should not even contemplate trading Fev unless it was a super deal.

I would argue strongly that Geelong, West Coast and Adelaide all would have won their final games if they had Fevola at full forward. Therefore we need to ask them - what is a premiership worth to you??????

And then we can start dealing. No two bit players, no unproven players. Quality and quality only.

Synbad · **Posted:** Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:09 pm

nightcrawler wrote:

St Fidelius wrote:

I hope Fev stays with you lot as well..

Not wanting to sound disrespectful, but this guy has near no second effort

Not wanting to sound disrespectful, but you shouldn't believe all the hype about Fev's poor second efforts. He still laid more than three times as many tackles as Gehrig (they guy he would notionally be replacing) last season from fewer games.

Games Tackles
Fevola 19 39

Gehrig 21 11

Would really prefer to keep him unless the deal was something special.

Totally agree... Gehrig gets no criticism for his shithouse efforts because the ball is always up there ...

Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:31 pm

Fraser Gehrig- Kicks more goals - takes more marks (Fevola the only forward not in the top 100 in the AFL) - contests more marks and usually takes 2-3 defenders with him and intimidates opposition players. you can forgive some of his actions.
But in spite of all his efforts - St kilda have still won nothing

also we must not forget that Fevola is a "Match Winner" this is despite the fact that Carlton has won just 21 of its last 88 games of which Fevola did not take part in 4 and of the 17 remaining games 7 of them he had little or no input from Fevola. So in summary Fevola contributes to us winning a match (not a Match winner) once every 8.8 games

Synbad · **Posted:** Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:46 pm

Yes but Fraser gets 3 times the ball Fevola does.. or are you going to tell us how they get equal opportunity.
The other thing Frser gets is less attention because they also have Riewoldt, Kosi and Hamill in that side to suck up defenders and stretch them thin...

We have Fev and then Lance when he plays... and you know how much room Lance makes with his pace.

PS we now have an opportunity to bring back Beauie Murphy and Lallan as well as Corey, Sydney Blues.. interested????

Wojee · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:17 am **Posts:** 35135

Swap Gehrig to Carlton and Fevola to St Kilda and IMO you'd have Fev kicking more goals, taking more marks and contesting more marks while Gehrig is left to make angry faces with the ball at the other end of the ground.

NTBlue · **Posted:** Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:01 pm

nightcrawler wrote:

St Fidelius wrote:

I hope Fev stays with you lot as well..

Not wanting to sound disrespectful, but this guy has near no second effort

Not wanting to sound disrespectful, but you shouldn't believe all the hype about Fev's poor second efforts. He still laid more than three times as many tackles as Gehrig (they guy he would notionally be replacing) last season from fewer games.

Games Tackles
Fevola 19 39

Gehrig 21 11

Would really prefer to keep him unless the deal was something special.

I am not a huge Fev fan and would not usually say anything positive about Gerhig, but I would ask those posting about second efforts and tackle counts if they had ever tried to play footy at any level with a groin injury?

Yes, maybe Fevs body language could improve and maybe he could work on more positive feedback to teammates, but when playing with a crook groin and missing the first attempt at tackling it is very hard to change direction and launch a second effort. My observation of many games suggested to me that both Fev and Fraser played under duress caused by groin/osteitis pubis problems a number of times.

Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:03 pm

Synbad wrote:

Yes but Fraser gets 3 times the ball Fevola does.. or are you going to tell us how they get equal opportunity.
The other thing Frser gets is less attention because they also have Riewoldt, Kosi and Hamill in that side to suck up defenders and stretch them thin...

We have Fev and then Lance when he plays... and you know how much room Lance makes with his pace.

PS we now have an opportunity to bring back Beauie Murphy and Lallan as well as Corey, Sydney Blues.. interested????

The AFL saw fit to parade Beauy and Corey around the MCG on Saturday as retiring CHAMPIONS of our game. Who am I to argue with them.

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