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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:31 pm 
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I picked up this news tonight and must admit that I found it quite staggering.

Fev does not believe in sports massages to get his body right. He just simply does not like them. When massage appointments are made at the club for the players Fev just gets his feet massaged. That is all. No hammies, no calves, no quads, no glutes, no lower back... nothing... just feet. How laughable is that?

How do I know? Well he told Shane Crawford when they were together on TFS one time and Shane's massage therapist is the same as mine. Shane was staggered at this news. Now we all know what a professional athlete Shane is. He has 1-3 massages each week to get his body in peak physical condition depending on his needs at the time.

So tell me? Why does Fev not have sports massages? Does he not like the pain that this deep-tissue work brings on? Does he not realise the value a sports massage can bring about in getting his body in peak physical condition?

How does the medical staff let him get away with his body not being right? How do they let him get away with only having feet massaged? Why did he have a groin injury for most of the season without getting appropriate medical attention?

Does Pagan know this? Who runs the medical department down at the club?

I am an amateur athlete and sportsman as some of you are too. I am staggered that in this day and age Fev can get away with this lack of preparation in professional football. No wonder he is last in the pre-season time-trials. No wonder he can not chase an opposition player down when they run off him. He simply does not know or is not told what is required to be a professional footballer. No wonder...

It is time that this is changed.


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Fev just goes for the happy ending

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Maybe he once had a massage by a guy, and "it" moved....

We've got George Costanza in our forward line?

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Apparently he doesn't like wearing jocks either, he likes it all to hang loose when he graces the field.
Fair dinkum!

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what a peculiar man

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Some will understand what I have just written and be concerned. Others will act like the kids that they are, they'll snigger and make smart remarks. It is just so predictable.


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Mallee,

The only point I would like to make is that I can not recall Fev doing a hammy, quad or calve in his career.
Would massage help with his groin problem (this is a serious question)?


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Can I have it both ways and say I'm one of each?

You make a fair point mallee, sorry to help drag your thread OT so quickly.

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malleefowl wrote:
Some will understand what I have just written and be concerned. Others will act like the kids that they are, they'll snigger and make smart remarks. It is just so predictable.


Indeed.

Bad day mallee? Come on man, have a laff! It's trade week fast approaching!

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Yeah it is pretty concerning. Even at my level of sport through my teenage and early pre-fat 20s sports massage was absolutely essential and accelerated recovery immensely. That was only in a non-jarring sport like swimming too which has none of the impact of land running sports.

So I reckon if it's true someone needs to give Fev a kick up the arse
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Or he just hasn't found the right massage parlours yet.

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Actually Malleefowl has a point. Massage helps with recovery and would have certainly helped with the groin injury. If you recover quickly from a game that means you can train harder thus bulding fitness, something that Fev lacks.

Massge certainly helped me when I was training for Ironman and I used always get a massage the day after a game.

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Are things like this not team rules? Everyone has their own preparation routines, but some things which good for you should be made compulsory I reckon.


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Yes massage can be beneficial to recovery.
Maybe Fev simply detests massages. Everyone is different and Fev is never going to be a Crawford. I wouldn't try and force a tempermental grown man into doing something he doesn't like doing.
Regards Pedro.


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pedro wrote:
Yes massage can be beneficial to recovery.
Maybe Fev simply detests massages. Everyone is different and Fev is never going to be a Crawford. I wouldn't try and force a tempermental grown man into doing something he doesn't like doing.
Regards Pedro.


Yeah like not sulking during a game.

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Can we just get trade week over with so the Fev bagging can stop.

No massages = bad attitude :garthp:

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Bluehammer, sometimes I like to joke and other times I like serious comment. For this topic I was after serious comment. It was late at night and I was still waiting. I had to put the extra comment in or the thread would have been highjacked forever. There are still kids playing little games as I type this post.

Jbee, massage would have seriously helped Fev's groin problem. Funnily enough I have had a groin problem for the past couple of years. I let it go for a while hoping that it would get better, but it never really did. Since April I have been on a campaign to find out the problem. I first started seeing a physio and getting specific massage around the hammies, quads, adductors and ilio psoas muscle (the groin muscle which runs from your stomach down to the front of the thigh). While that loosened me up somewhat it still didn't fix the problem. I then was referred to a sports doctor who recommended a cortisone injection into the groin muscle. Still this did not fix the problem. I then went and had an MRI scan and found out that I had the early signs of a stress fracture in my hip. So I had to immediately stop my running for 6 weeks to give it rest. I have now since started running again and so far I have not had the pain and restriction that I previously had. I have got a little off the topic here, but Fev should have had all of these tests and rest until his problem was sorted out. I have to pay for my medical treatment. Fev gets it for nothing.

Massage is not only good for recovery from injury, but it is good for injury prevention and also increasing performance. So although Fev hasn't had any other injuries he would gain enormous benefit from having weekly massage. It would give him extra speed and endurance - something which he sorely lacks.

I have been competing in triathlon for 10 years and regularly have massage to loosen muscles in recovery from my training, but also to assist me in getting the best performance from my body come race time. I would have to say that having muscles loosened by massage would without doubt increase my performance by 20-30%. This is a lot in elite sport. Bluemark would know exactly what I mean.


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I can relate to Fev though (only with the massages! :shock: )

I played a lot of soccer through my late teens/20's and I always found that the best way for me to approach a game was with absolutely no warm-ups. No stretching, no anything. Whenever I did warm up/stretch, I would inevitavly strain a muscle (usually hammy). If I strapped my ankles, they would be sore. If I didn't I would be OK. So I avoided it like the plague. And i'd be OK. Same with after the game. No warm downs, rub downs, or anything. More often than not I'd be a bit sore but would pull up OK to train or play the next game.

I only played hack leagues but I can understand what Fev's thinking (I gotta stop relating to this guy at any level!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: ) although as a professional athlete it is odd.

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My mate drinks urine before a game and he says it helps him play better. Why isnt FEV doing it!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, Massage works differently on each person and to say that is the reason for ????? is laughable.

He can do 101 other things to help recovery.

eg. Hydrotherapy, Supplements, hyperbaric work..... the list goes on.

What i must say is, your masseur is a good salesman and perhaps also a BS artist.

You were probably also someone who said Fev would kick 120 goals a year if he got his hair cut.

It is all bullshit.

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Urine, ey......?

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Perhaps he wants to go to St.Kilda to stitch up a Supplier

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I am pretty sure there are many things that a full time professional sportsmen would do that Fev doesn't wanna do.


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