Cheers TBB. Nice to see someone look at it from both sides.

Happy to be proven wrong. My wife reminds me of it every day.

The issue I do have is being wrongly criticised by people just looking for cheap shots. AND they are always the same people. You can almost call it before it happens. Read the posts its the same people time after time and yet they add nothing themselves.

I think being called for "Hindsight" a bit rich. As I said I put my opinions up before and after the facts.

As for the Duigan scenario I don't agree that it was a good selection (my opinion), however whilst he was a Carlton player I supported him and hoped for the best. I even identified roles and scenarios I believed he could be valuable.

As for people bringing up the best 22 options, seriously?, its a bit of fun and I change the bloody thing every week.

It's not that hard. Just certain people like to twist to suit there own agenda. Won't make one bit of difference to me, I'll keep having MY opinion, if you don't like it, don't read it!

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Why would I compare to any other club? My concern is the CFC and over the last decade our recruiting has been abysmal.

We are 18 years into a Premiership drought and this could easily become our biggest drought in 150 years!

The major issue I see is recruiting and list management. We need to get it right and fast. In the end that's all I give a sh1t about.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

1948 to 1968 was pretty dry IIRC

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Cheats never prosper (except in the AFL)

Unless something pretty significant changes with our club 1995 to 2017 is going to be pretty dry as well.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Because it will show you that the 2010 draft wasn't a great one for most of the clubs. Using a late pick on Duigan didn't cost us the next Hird, Grant, Swan or Lake.

Picking out random players as wins ignores development.

It's all hindsight after you changed your tune on Kreuzer before and after the fact.

For all we know, we intended to go in "one player short" (or an extra nominated rookie) this season, or that Duigan didn't want a spot on the rookie list. Don't think we're the only club that's taken this approach.

Not ideal in how it occurred, but if we've saved a bit of coin for next year and we retain Walker, Kreuzer, Gibbs and Murphy for a decent rate, the ends will have justified the means.

Hope he sticks around the VFL side. Has a lot to offer off the field.

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

2010 National Draft:

Pick 34 Patrick McCarthy

Pick 42 Luke Mitchell

Total of 2 games.

Hire the recruiters.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Whilst opinions are like arseholes and everyone is entitled to one, the issue with Psych's posts in this thread relate to his need to denigrate a player (Average footballer that should never have been drafted).

Most people, including Psych, thought that Duigan was a good pick up when he was drafted. In his limited time at the club, Duigan has done more than enough to justify his selection with pick 70 through a combination of on field endeavours and the off field attributes that he has brought to the club.

The attitude that player X hasn't/wont contribute to our next flag and is thus shit/should never have been picked up in the first place is complete rubbish.

I just hope there'll be a Brad Moran Award type thread on PRE named after him

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#DonTheStash

So what your suggesting is that when I make a statement on a player, that's it, final. I cannot change it and should be stoic and rigid in that assessment. I should never allow for a change of mind, to be proven wrong, further information, experience or persuasion by way of sound reasoning to change my opinion?

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

That's just BS. I never said that. When he was drafted I didn't even know who he was. I remember having to search for his name to find out anything about.

Has he been handy? Yes, no doubt. My point, and I have no reason to change it, is that given where we were and where our list was at we should of been going down the path of bringing in kids and trying to develop long term depth.

I also never said he was SH1T.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Yeah the previous three kids we picked went awesome. Pick 70 surely would have been gold.
You implied he was shit by saying that he should have never been drafted hence the '/'

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dane's trolling again

I hate him now I know he cost us Siposs.
He's my number recruiting target for 2014, reckon i will start the campaign asap

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Shit from you Mega. The SEED all the way

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

RIP Charlie Kirk (was/were)

JOEL TIPPETT

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

Let not fight.
Let all agree 2014 recruiting is all about

SEEDPOSS.

Maybe Doc won't be so bored if we try and recruit a hybrid player.

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dane's trolling again

Norway Ice Hockey sides have been building hybrid players for years now.

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

RIP Charlie Kirk (was/were)

I've heard Megaman works in a lab.

Do you think he could get this done?

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dane's trolling again

The point is that you started off saying that he was a good pick up and now that his career is over/he hasnt lasted as long as some would like you've done a 360 and said he shouldnt have been picked up/was a wasted pick - it pays no respect to the player/his career.

Also, saying that someone should never have been picked up in the first place at the end of their career is effectively shitting on them/their career.

..actually, if he had done a '360', he'd just be repeating himself.. ..you mean he has done a '180'..

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