Yarran is contracted.

2 weeks ago he got coaches votes for his game.

Last year he finished top 5 B&F.

I genuinely think we'd get a first round for him this year.

If he comes out this week & has a blinder most would probably agree.

Pessimism re Yarran's value is just because he had a shocker on Friday. But he wasn't alone.

No player that wore that red sash in the last 5 or so years is welcome at the Blues. Flogs of the highest order.

On that account Aaron Francis can GAGF too

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

I don't want players from other clubs. It's time to go to the draft and be aggressive. Top 20-25 are very good IMO.

Trade Yarran to WCE for 14, Henderson & pick 38 to Geelong for Pick 8 and Menzel to anyone for a pick inside 25.

Leaves us with 2, 8, 14, 20 & 25. SOLD.

We could then have Weitering (CHB), Mathieson (MID), Curnow (MID), Hipwood (KPF) Ah Chee (Outside Mid) and maybe Rice (Running Defender). Easily replaced what we lost and potentially a lot better.

That is the type of draft that can change a clubs fortunes.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Some of your finest work cj69.

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dane's trolling again

In our dreams we would get a top 20 pick for Yarran.

He should be played as the small forward, he can provide the defensive pressure up forward we so desparately need with his pace, especially with Armfield out.

Awesome, it's been at least 45 minutes since the last suggestion to trade Yarran to a WA club. Glad we got it out of the way.

If the draft is as shallow as many suggest, and considering Yarran's contracted, for once we are in a strong position to nominate a 1st round pick as the price and take it if it comes. If we don't get the price we want, we have a highly talented player on the list again next year, from whom a new coach may extract their absolute best. Not a lot of downside as far as I can see.

+1 Punter.

But you have to give something to get something

It's important that we make hard decisions

We need to accept the market value

This is our time to strike

The rebuild is now

Trade or die

@#$%&!

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And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Aesthetically pleasing post jim

Don't know why everyone is so down on Hendo. At most sides he would be an xlt chb. See how well harry taylor wd go as chf in a bottom side? Menzel is young, talented, injured and a bit lazy. Young and talented is what we need, making players unlazy is why we pay coaches. Yarran is supremely talented, we need to get him to play to that talent, altho time does seem to be running out. I too reckon we should be using the draft, but not swapping out what little talent we have. And we wd need to get way better at drafting. In the last ten years what talent have we snagged after pick 6 in the nd? Russell, the wrong hartlet, grigg, hampson, bootsma watson mccarthy lucas etc etc. Our strike rate wd be better if we'd based our picks on a random big footy phantom draft.

I reckon use the draft, don't get overpaid underachievers from other clubs, and only let talent go if we are absolutely sure there is no chance we can get the best out of it.

The issue with Henderson is he cannot take contested marks, that's why he is up and down as a forward. When the midfield dominates he can find space and take marks but when the game is tight he is next to useless in contested marking duels.

Basically he is not genuine KPP and as such should not be paid the big bucks. If he wants the big bucks then he has to leave. Can't be overpaying players.

He is better down back where he reads the ball well but again he can't play on monster forwards as he just isn't strong enough to handle them one on one.

Don't agree with most but agree with not getting players from other clubs. No more.

I like Henderson and believe he would be a very good CHB but I get the impression he wants out. If so, just go.

In regards to Menzel I don't believe you can make players "unlazy". It comes from within and I think with Menzel there are more issues than just laziness.

Yarran is unhappy and has over 100 games and has 7 seasons in the AFL. I also believe he is easily replaceable. We have an attitude problem at Carlton and as soon as we get tougher and make changes the better we will be.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

The only query I have with Menzel is his durability.

It's an important time now and the club needs to make a call on his value now as a trade and his value going forward....

If Henderson stays I'd opt for Schache over Weitering.

At what point do we stop trying to turn backman into KPF's? Schache is a 199cm Fwd. I do think Weitering is the best kid in draft but on a needs basis I think we need Schache. With Jamo, Rowe, Jaksch, Fields & Hendo all more comfortable in defence we need to address the Fwd KPP

Why don't we trade Yarran to NZ or Tassie for future picks?

100% agree with this. That's assuming we have a choice.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Why don't we trade Henderson to South Africa or USA for future picks?

What, not even BJ?
He followed us as a kid u know

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Sounds good Jim, but we always seem to end up getting a lot less than we thought we would for what we're giving.
(Grigg, Jacobs, Garlett ... even Robinson was touted as possibly bringing in a 2nd or 3rd round pick).
I think we should concentrate on improving what we've got.

Jamo's arms are held on with rubber bands, Rowe is not AFL standard, Fields is a one game mature age rookie who I doubt will be retained, Jacksch is unknown, Hendo is leaving, our backline never holds up under the pressure of top 8 teams, it needs a complete re build.