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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:57 pm 
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emtwenty wrote:
Dominator_7 wrote:
Just on FC
Hendo been regularly meeting with Chris Scott, and Hardwick was part of the Tiges clan that met with Yazz.
Both seem 100% gone!!

That comment from Hutchy about Lachie was tongue in cheek. But yes he's gone after we told him to find a new home. Good on him.


Couldn't care less what he was told. His on field attitude and output since then tells me he wasn't worth keeping anyway
Flowering sook!!!

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
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Agree....... At least Dangerfield is still performing.

Hendo is acting like a sulky sook..


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
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hendo is average ,who gives a @#$%&! , when was the last time he got best on ground or took a player to the cleaners , never


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
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Henderson is a B grader but the fact that he is our best KP player people are way overrating him. If we get a first round pick for him its a great result*

*as long as we don't stuff the pick up!


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 Post subject: List Management 2015
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scottopee wrote:
Henderson is a B grader but the fact that he is our best KP player people are way overrating him. If we get a first round pick for him its a great result*

*as long as we don't stuff the pick up!

^^THIS^^

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
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teagueyubeauty wrote:
scottopee wrote:
Henderson is a B grader but the fact that he is our best KP player people are way overrating him. If we get a first round pick for him its a great result*

*as long as we don't stuff the pick up!

^^THIS^^


he is a B grade as a forward, but an A grader as a back.

1st rounder for him.
1st rounder for Yarren.

Ive asked it before but could we let them go and get a compo pick? picks 1 & 2 would be a great outcome.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
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Let who go?

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
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I am not worried who we lose. We are last, something (a lot) isn't working.

Yarran and Henderson are the two obvious one's who give us little but have value so we need to jump at it.

We can at least get something out of it unlike previous years where we lost Waite and Robinson for nothing, Garlett for a pick worth a lot less compared to his value, Eddie for someone we are getting very little out of and we de-listed McLean too early. Let's not mention Laidler. That is a lot of depth and talent out of our club for nothing. This is where we have ruined out list- not so much losing these guys but gaining nothing for them.

People complain about our recruiting at the draft (although Boekhurst at 19 was a mess) but it's actually our list management that has got us into this position. Why didn't we offer GWS pick 7 for Jaksch AND Tomlinson as an example and still pick up Boekhurst with our second selection? Why didn't we keep the compensation for Eddie? How the hell did we lose Robbo for nothing? etc etc ect..

I am excited because we will now have a proper structure to help us make decisions regarding our list. With a new coaching regime whoever we pick up in the draft has a much better chance.

On another note, I had the pleasure of meeting Cripps the other day. A real gentleman and very engaged when chatting to him. It's the small things like how he repeated my name when shaking my hand when we parted ways or his effort to be professional when representing the club. What impresses me more is this kid has been thrown to the wolves in the worst team, with a lot of pressure around him and not only has thrived but he has taken it upon himself to carry the team and become a leader. We really have something special here.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
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It has been said numerous times, but it needs to be said again;

Henderson and Yarran are NOT free agents.

Henderson hasn't been at Carlton for the required 8 seasons to qualify as a restricted free agent.
Yarran is contracted for 2016.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:05 am 
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TheSwan wrote:
I am not worried who we lose. We are last, something (a lot) isn't working.

Yarran and Henderson are the two obvious one's who give us little but have value so we need to jump at it.

We can at least get something out of it unlike previous years where we lost Waite and Robinson for nothing, Garlett for a pick worth a lot less compared to his value, Eddie for someone we are getting very little out of and we de-listed McLean too early. Let's not mention Laidler. That is a lot of depth and talent out of our club for nothing. This is where we have ruined out list- not so much losing these guys but gaining nothing for them.

People complain about our recruiting at the draft (although Boekhurst at 19 was a mess) but it's actually our list management that has got us into this position. Why didn't we offer GWS pick 7 for Jaksch AND Tomlinson as an example and still pick up Boekhurst with our second selection? Why didn't we keep the compensation for Eddie? How the hell did we lose Robbo for nothing? etc etc ect..

I am excited because we will now have a proper structure to help us make decisions regarding our list. With a new coaching regime whoever we pick up in the draft has a much better chance.

On another note, I had the pleasure of meeting Cripps the other day. A real gentleman and very engaged when chatting to him. It's the small things like how he repeated my name when shaking my hand when we parted ways or his effort to be professional when representing the club. What impresses me more is this kid has been thrown to the wolves in the worst team, with a lot of pressure around him and not only has thrived but he has taken it upon himself to carry the team and become a leader. We really have something special here.

Carn Blues!


Quality post and good news re Cripps. We want leaders not players are more interested in what clothes they will wear or what hair style.

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 Post subject: List Management 2015
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Cheer squad said Cripps snubbed them in Brisbane. Poor cheer squad.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
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TheSwan wrote:
I am not worried who we lose. We are last, something (a lot) isn't working.

Yarran and Henderson are the two obvious one's who give us little but have value so we need to jump at it.

We can at least get something out of it unlike previous years where we lost Waite and Robinson for nothing, Garlett for a pick worth a lot less compared to his value, Eddie for someone we are getting very little out of and we de-listed McLean too early. Let's not mention Laidler. That is a lot of depth and talent out of our club for nothing. This is where we have ruined out list- not so much losing these guys but gaining nothing for them.

People complain about our recruiting at the draft (although Boekhurst at 19 was a mess) but it's actually our list management that has got us into this position. Why didn't we offer GWS pick 7 for Jaksch AND Tomlinson as an example and still pick up Boekhurst with our second selection? Why didn't we keep the compensation for Eddie? How the hell did we lose Robbo for nothing? etc etc ect..

I am excited because we will now have a proper structure to help us make decisions regarding our list. With a new coaching regime whoever we pick up in the draft has a much better chance.

On another note, I had the pleasure of meeting Cripps the other day. A real gentleman and very engaged when chatting to him. It's the small things like how he repeated my name when shaking my hand when we parted ways or his effort to be professional when representing the club. What impresses me more is this kid has been thrown to the wolves in the worst team, with a lot of pressure around him and not only has thrived but he has taken it upon himself to carry the team and become a leader. We really have something special here.

Carn Blues!



good stuff re cripps.

fast turning into my favourite player to watch (if he isn't already)

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 Post subject: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:51 pm 
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ScottSaunders wrote:
TheSwan wrote:
I am not worried who we lose. We are last, something (a lot) isn't working.

Yarran and Henderson are the two obvious one's who give us little but have value so we need to jump at it.

We can at least get something out of it unlike previous years where we lost Waite and Robinson for nothing, Garlett for a pick worth a lot less compared to his value, Eddie for someone we are getting very little out of and we de-listed McLean too early. Let's not mention Laidler. That is a lot of depth and talent out of our club for nothing. This is where we have ruined out list- not so much losing these guys but gaining nothing for them.

People complain about our recruiting at the draft (although Boekhurst at 19 was a mess) but it's actually our list management that has got us into this position. Why didn't we offer GWS pick 7 for Jaksch AND Tomlinson as an example and still pick up Boekhurst with our second selection? Why didn't we keep the compensation for Eddie? How the hell did we lose Robbo for nothing? etc etc ect..

I am excited because we will now have a proper structure to help us make decisions regarding our list. With a new coaching regime whoever we pick up in the draft has a much better chance.

On another note, I had the pleasure of meeting Cripps the other day. A real gentleman and very engaged when chatting to him. It's the small things like how he repeated my name when shaking my hand when we parted ways or his effort to be professional when representing the club. What impresses me more is this kid has been thrown to the wolves in the worst team, with a lot of pressure around him and not only has thrived but he has taken it upon himself to carry the team and become a leader. We really have something special here.

Carn Blues!



good stuff re cripps.

fast turning into my favourite player to watch (if he isn't already)

If you're talking at Carlton, there are not a lot of alternatives. If in the AFL, yep agree, has some vision you don't see too often in players. Let's hope BT doesn't have some great nickname for him lined up.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
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TheSwan wrote:
I am not worried who we lose. We are last, something (a lot) isn't working.

Yarran and Henderson are the two obvious one's who give us little but have value so we need to jump at it.

We can at least get something out of it unlike previous years where we lost Waite and Robinson for nothing, Garlett for a pick worth a lot less compared to his value, Eddie for someone we are getting very little out of and we de-listed McLean too early. Let's not mention Laidler. That is a lot of depth and talent out of our club for nothing. This is where we have ruined out list- not so much losing these guys but gaining nothing for them.

People complain about our recruiting at the draft (although Boekhurst at 19 was a mess) but it's actually our list management that has got us into this position. Why didn't we offer GWS pick 7 for Jaksch AND Tomlinson as an example and still pick up Boekhurst with our second selection? Why didn't we keep the compensation for Eddie? How the hell did we lose Robbo for nothing? etc etc ect..

I am excited because we will now have a proper structure to help us make decisions regarding our list. With a new coaching regime whoever we pick up in the draft has a much better chance.

On another note, I had the pleasure of meeting Cripps the other day. A real gentleman and very engaged when chatting to him. It's the small things like how he repeated my name when shaking my hand when we parted ways or his effort to be professional when representing the club. What impresses me more is this kid has been thrown to the wolves in the worst team, with a lot of pressure around him and not only has thrived but he has taken it upon himself to carry the team and become a leader. We really have something special here.

Carn Blues!


Cheers Swan. :thumbsup:
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 Post subject: List Management 2015
PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:17 pm 
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TheSwan wrote:
I am not worried who we lose. We are last, something (a lot) isn't working.

Yarran and Henderson are the two obvious one's who give us little but have value so we need to jump at it.

We can at least get something out of it unlike previous years where we lost Waite and Robinson for nothing, Garlett for a pick worth a lot less compared to his value, Eddie for someone we are getting very little out of and we de-listed McLean too early. Let's not mention Laidler. That is a lot of depth and talent out of our club for nothing. This is where we have ruined out list- not so much losing these guys but gaining nothing for them.

People complain about our recruiting at the draft (although Boekhurst at 19 was a mess) but it's actually our list management that has got us into this position. Why didn't we offer GWS pick 7 for Jaksch AND Tomlinson as an example and still pick up Boekhurst with our second selection? Why didn't we keep the compensation for Eddie? How the hell did we lose Robbo for nothing? etc etc ect..

I am excited because we will now have a proper structure to help us make decisions regarding our list. With a new coaching regime whoever we pick up in the draft has a much better chance.

On another note, I had the pleasure of meeting Cripps the other day. A real gentleman and very engaged when chatting to him. It's the small things like how he repeated my name when shaking my hand when we parted ways or his effort to be professional when representing the club. What impresses me more is this kid has been thrown to the wolves in the worst team, with a lot of pressure around him and not only has thrived but he has taken it upon himself to carry the team and become a leader. We really have something special here.

Carn Blues!


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
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padre wrote:
TheSwan wrote:
I am not worried who we lose. We are last, something (a lot) isn't working.

Yarran and Henderson are the two obvious one's who give us little but have value so we need to jump at it.

We can at least get something out of it unlike previous years where we lost Waite and Robinson for nothing, Garlett for a pick worth a lot less compared to his value, Eddie for someone we are getting very little out of and we de-listed McLean too early. Let's not mention Laidler. That is a lot of depth and talent out of our club for nothing. This is where we have ruined out list- not so much losing these guys but gaining nothing for them.

People complain about our recruiting at the draft (although Boekhurst at 19 was a mess) but it's actually our list management that has got us into this position. Why didn't we offer GWS pick 7 for Jaksch AND Tomlinson as an example and still pick up Boekhurst with our second selection? Why didn't we keep the compensation for Eddie? How the hell did we lose Robbo for nothing? etc etc ect..

I am excited because we will now have a proper structure to help us make decisions regarding our list. With a new coaching regime whoever we pick up in the draft has a much better chance.

On another note, I had the pleasure of meeting Cripps the other day. A real gentleman and very engaged when chatting to him. It's the small things like how he repeated my name when shaking my hand when we parted ways or his effort to be professional when representing the club. What impresses me more is this kid has been thrown to the wolves in the worst team, with a lot of pressure around him and not only has thrived but he has taken it upon himself to carry the team and become a leader. We really have something special here.

Carn Blues!


No sign of the stutter?


Nah. I think when you get a bit nervous it starts. Everyone is different and as a stutterer myself years ago you learn to automatically come up with a different word to stop it.

He is a big unit but has a baby face.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
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ScottSaunders wrote:
teagueyubeauty wrote:
scottopee wrote:
Henderson is a B grader but the fact that he is our best KP player people are way overrating him. If we get a first round pick for him its a great result*

*as long as we don't stuff the pick up!

^^THIS^^


he is a B grade as a forward, but an A grader as a back.

1st rounder for him.
1st rounder for Yarren.

Ive asked it before but could we let them go and get a compo pick? picks 1 & 2 would be a great outcome.


B Grade forward? 16 goals in 16 games as predominantly a forward.........
A Grade defender? Not even close to being an All-Aust more of a good 2nd Tall defender.............

= B Grade!


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
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ScottSaunders wrote:
teagueyubeauty wrote:
scottopee wrote:
Henderson is a B grader but the fact that he is our best KP player people are way overrating him. If we get a first round pick for him its a great result*

*as long as we don't stuff the pick up!

^^THIS^^


he is a B grade as a forward, but an A grader as a back.

1st rounder for him.
1st rounder for Yarren.

Ive asked it before but could we let them go and get a compo pick? picks 1 & 2 would be a great outcome.


Scott, no compo pick as they are not free agents this year. Yarran would be next year.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2015
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scottopee wrote:
ScottSaunders wrote:
teagueyubeauty wrote:
scottopee wrote:
Henderson is a B grader but the fact that he is our best KP player people are way overrating him. If we get a first round pick for him its a great result*

*as long as we don't stuff the pick up!

^^THIS^^


he is a B grade as a forward, but an A grader as a back.

1st rounder for him.
1st rounder for Yarren.

Ive asked it before but could we let them go and get a compo pick? picks 1 & 2 would be a great outcome.


B Grade forward? 16 goals in 16 games as predominantly a forward.........
A Grade defender? Not even close to being an All-Aust more of a good 2nd Tall defender.............

= B Grade!

Hello Chris Scott, please don't listen to Mr scottopee, he is just a bit angry today for a range of reasons. It could be because Mr Hird is no longer coaching, but who knows?

We, all here at Carlton, believe that Lachie is the best player in the team and will be an all Australian in both the forward and back line. He is the heart and soul of our team and we cannot bear to lose him.

He is an A+ Grade player and you must give us your first round pick if you want him.

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