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Post subject: Re: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:04 pm

Rod Ashman

Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:17 pm
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jake_h03 wrote:

jimmae wrote:

Did Watto just open the door for another year? Covered the ground very well today, and if you kick the ball within 5 metres of him he at least brings it to ground. Neutralised a 1v3 at one point.

Provided as much as hendo has all year and more than Jones. Persist. We have nothing else

he doesn't get sustained game time at senior level and until he does he will always struggle to adapt
he has deficiencies but he rarely gets a comprehensive beating
we need to give him most of the year in the seniors to prove himself
personally I would like to see him more and give him another year but he needs to be played at the top level

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Trigger

Post subject: Re: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:06 pm

Harry Vallence

Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:06 am
Posts: 1826

chelodina wrote:

I think our true test will be in 2 weeks and it will truly tell us how we are fairing going into finals. Remember, this game was only a win against Melbourne.......

Jim Buckley had a good game today, he looks a bit different to how I remember him

Our true test will be in 2-3 years not in 2 weeks time, poor comment, which is expected!

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Michael Jezz

Post subject: Re: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:08 pm

Rod Ashman

Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:52 pm
Posts: 2044

jake_h03 wrote:

jimmae wrote:

Did Watto just open the door for another year? Covered the ground very well today, and if you kick the ball within 5 metres of him he at least brings it to ground. Neutralised a 1v3 at one point.

Provided as much as hendo has all year and more than Jones. Persist. We have nothing else

Irrelevent.

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grrofunger

Post subject: Re: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:08 pm

Bruce Doull

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:04 pm
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i fell asleep on the couch

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Stefchook

Post subject: Re: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:15 pm

Wayne Johnston

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:36 am
Posts: 8189

Fantastic game from Kreuzer. Nice to see he's got over his goalkicking yips in recent weeks.
Another fantastic game from Cripps. Clutch goal in the last.
Buckley was good.
Some promising signs from Boekhorst and Whiley and Jaksch.
Great that GC won last night, and meant I could enjoy the win without feeling conflicted.

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bluedog

Post subject: Re: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:17 pm

Ken Hunter

Joined: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:55 pm
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Location: Brisbane

grrofunger wrote:

i fell asleep on the couch

Say hi to Paul for me.

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bluedog

Post subject: Re: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:19 pm

Ken Hunter

Joined: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:55 pm
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Rare for Blues to win, but for filth and scum to also lose, and for Roosters to win, well... :smoking:

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tap in 79

Post subject: Re: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:19 pm

Rod Ashman

Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:58 am
Posts: 2143

King Kenny wrote:

Bang! Cripps wins rising star!

Some of his hard-ball gets were top echelon, top-class. It was like Kouta all over again. To be the starting point for a chain of possessions when being tackled by 2-3 blokes and still be able to get the handball out demonstrates a rare skill set.

If Cripps doesn't win the Rising Star now you can pretty much guarantee that the voting system is flawed.

Nice to see Wayne Carey - an ex-forward - say that centre half-forward is the hardest position on the ground. Hogan seemed to play a lot at full-forward from what I could see anyway. The game has changed since the 1990s Wayne. It all starts with hard-ball gets in the midfield. The game is more about the midfield than any time before.
Cripps is the ultimate extractor.

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grrofunger

Post subject: Re: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:20 pm

Bruce Doull

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:04 pm
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bluedog wrote:

grrofunger wrote:

i fell asleep on the couch

Say hi to Paul for me.

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

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chelodina

Post subject: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:21 pm

Harry Vallence

Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:43 pm
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Trigger wrote:

chelodina wrote:

Our true test will be in 2-3 years not in 2 weeks time, poor comment, which is expected!

Tehehehe hehehehe.

We have a live one

Last edited by chelodina on Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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jake_h03

Post subject: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:21 pm

John Nicholls

Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:35 am
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Location: Melbourne

Drewgirl wrote:

Say what you like about Watson, would rather have him in the side than sookie Hendo. He has some passion and even when dropped to the ressies, still holds his head high and doesn't sulk.

I hope we re contract him for another 12 months.

Bang on drew girl

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bluegirl72

Post subject: Re: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:21 pm

Alex Jesaulenko

Joined: Sat May 23, 2009 8:30 pm
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Paul Roos...
presumably. :wink:

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The Normal One

Post subject: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:22 pm

formerly King Kenny

Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:35 pm
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chelodina wrote:

Menzel was awful today. Little or no pace, no tank, little creativity.

Not sure how the club has allowed him to slip that far behind

Menzel stuffed his shoulder again and did well enough to stay on the park. Give him a full preseason and see what he does.

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chelodina

Post subject: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:25 pm

Harry Vallence

Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:43 pm
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King Kenny wrote:

chelodina wrote:

Menzel was awful today. Little or no pace, no tank, little creativity.

Not sure how the club has allowed him to slip that far behind

Menzel stuffed his shoulder again and did well enough to stay on the park. Give him a full preseason and see what he does.

Hasn't he had some preseasons?

His shoulder may have limited creativity today, but he was easily ran past and around today.

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tap in 79

Post subject: Re: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:26 pm

Rod Ashman

Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:58 am
Posts: 2143

Players who show promise:
Tutt - does enough to be given game time next year.
Jaksch- good in the air...kicking decision making ...interesting, but could improve with game time.
Menzel - good pressure. shows some signs.

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Rod Spooky Galt

Post subject: Re: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:27 pm

Harry Vallence

Joined: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:31 pm
Posts: 1390

So.... let me get this right......
last week wasn't tanking???????? :eek:

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99prelim

Post subject: Re: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:28 pm

Robert Walls

Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:01 pm
Posts: 3561

doofdoof wrote:

ThePsychologist wrote:

I can't read too much into the game as it really was poor standard with little defensive pressure especially in the first half. Ball use was poor.

Positives were Kruezer, Cripps & Buckley and seeing players give an effort. Prefer that to a Yarran or Henderson jogging around. Everitt needs a kick in the arse as he really picks and chooses when to go.

I thought it was a great chance for Jaksch, Menzel, Whiley & Dick to step up and show something against a weak opposition and they were mostly disappointing. Dick & Tutt aren't anywhere near AFL standard. Boekhurst looks good but needs to get fit.

On a side note Jeremy Howe was doing his best Henderson impression out there. Looks like he is leaving the Demons based on that effort.

I thought Jaksch did quite well. Whiley and Dick are battlers and their output was about what you would expect.

Whiley????
You have to be kidding!!!
The kid was EVERYWHERE today, at just about all cntests, in and under handballs, making space, tapping to someone in a better position, jumping 3rd man.
This kid will be a gun, yes I said 'gun' in about 3-4 years time.
There is a little bit Fyffe in him.
Ridicule me till your heart's content. Watch him over the next few years (at Carlton)

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TruBlueBrad

Post subject: Re: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:29 pm

Stephen Silvagni

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:27 am
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I liked Whiley too.

I reckon he's the kind of player who needs his 50 games before he's comfortable.

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chelodina

Post subject: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:30 pm

Harry Vallence

Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:43 pm
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99prelim wrote:

doofdoof wrote:

ThePsychologist wrote:

I thought Jaksch did quite well. Whiley and Dick are battlers and their output was about what you would expect.

Yep, I rate his game today. He ran all day.

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ThePsychologist

Post subject: Re: R21: Carlton Vs Melbourne (Post match discussion)

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:32 pm

formerly cj69

Joined: Sun May 03, 2009 9:52 am
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TruBlueBrad wrote:

I liked Whiley too.

I reckon he's the kind of player who needs his 50 games before he's comfortable.

I'm a Whiley fan. Think he could be okay just thought he had a chance to stand up today. Worked hard but made some absolute clangers as well. I agree he needs more experience. He will need to step up next two weeks with Murphy missing. Could be good for him.

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