Because Collingwood are his choice and they will offer their first round pick.

That was last week. Things are different now. We should re-prosecute the argument.

So collingwood offer GWS pick 8 but we say take pick 12 off us or we will walk him to the PSD? Not sure that works when he is happy to go to Collingwood. Am i missing something?

Given your dislike of Casboult surely when the chance is there you take the key forward (Schache).

If the attitude is that there's too many failed top 10 KPP you can't complain when you end up relying on mediocre key forwards like Casboult.

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Assuming we take Weitering at one, it puts GWS in an interesting position if we offered pick two for Treloar.

Would they take another tall in Schache? Or stretch/run the risk of another Plowman type pick?

If it's the former, I'd hope this means we'd be in a position to shake loose a Stewart or McCarthy for next to nothing.

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HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

I know.

I was just putting it out there that we could mitigate risk and get Treloar. Noone can deny that any pick has risk associated with it and more so when taking a key forward with a top 10 pick.

I would hope in the 66 game rebuild we can uncover some firepower up forward that puts Casboults output to shame.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/carlto ... 7514452373

CARLTON must help Matthew Kreuzer find a new home.

He has been a great servant and a class act off the field over eight injury-ravaged seasons.

But there was a reason Blues’ list chief Stephen Silvagni would have been doing cartwheels in his living room on Saturday night.

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A lot might come down to what other picks we might gain. Another pick in the teens for either Henderson or Yarran, could mean that a Weideman or McKay could still be available at our next pick, but would come down to how much SOS rates Schache above these guys.

Considering we need more than 1 of everything it will about a balance....

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Should get in early if we draft Weideman.

There is no 'r' in Weideman.

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Weitering & Schache with 1 & 2.

Carlisle with PSD pick 1. Or a nothing 3rd or 4th rounder.

Geelong's first for Lach = pick 9 (I think). Try grab Charlie Curnow.

Add Giles (fingers crossed).

Spine set for a while.

Looks good. Still have hopes for Jacksh...

Completely slipped my mind. Add him.

I think Foster has a bit of talent too from the handful of VFL games I went to and what some NBs people tell me.

The one I'm most looking forward to is Casey Byrne though. I know he's not a KPP but his development has been amazing and is still so young.

Why do people think Giles is the answer to ANYTHING at our club? Has anyone ever seen him actually play?

I will be shocked if he is on the list in 2 years time. A very big chance to be delisted end of this year.

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Koperek.

Have you seen him play?

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The head must rule the heart

Giles can play alright. He won't be going anywhere in the near future.

Not ambitious enough

why not try for treolar + patton/mcarthy/stewart +lobb/downie/phillips for pick 2 + 20

Ordinarily you'd say no chance to the above but a PSD threat for treolar + schache being a key forward replacement mean that GWS would entertain the trade (with patton most likely due to 2 X ACLs)

Dumbest article I've ever read.

If we let Kreuzer go....... we've truly lost the plot.

Draft Picks??? Pfft........they mean bugger all........

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Given our situation, draft picks mean everything.

Clb needs to make some bold decisions list wise. This is a no brainer IMO

Draft Picks means nothing.

We have 3 x #1 draft picks on our list. More than any other team in the AFL. How many picks do you want???

Look at Geelongs retirees. ALL of whom are premiership players.

Stevie J - Pick 24. 253 games 452 goals. 3 x Premiership Player. - 3 x All Australian.
Mathew Stokes - Pick 65, 189 games, 203 goals, 2 x Premiership Player
James Kelly - Pick 17, 273 games, 88 goals, 3 x Premiership Player.

None of them were 1st round draft picks.

Picks mean bugger all.
Development. Winning. Culture. Sucsess. THAT is what matters.


Right now, all we know how to do is loose.

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