I know this trade period is more than vital for us, and I will be gutted if we get bent over (again)

That said however........

I have absolutely no idea how SOS and co will go in the trade period so I will reserve judgement until after trade week

You don't know how to play this game. What you're meant to do is take every snippet of unfounded gossip from unnamed sources, treat it as gospel (especially if it involves a bad deal for Carlton) and conclude that we're ruined, even though trade period doesn't even start for another 3 weeks.

I can't stomach some of the returns Carlton players potentially bring to Carlton.

It has been too obvious to the football world that Carlton are rebuilding: it is official.

Hendo and Yarran turn out to be the 2 trades we were inevitabley going to entertain and obviously the club knew how the Kreuzer scenario would unfold.

Carlton wants 1st round drafts. Period.

Saints have a Pick 5 for Carlisle. Carlton could and should take that for Hendo and then focus on Carlisle. In fact we should take Essendon**'s or Melbourne's first round picks for Hendo. Hendo cant reject everyone because he wanted to be traded and stated no preference when he was shown the door.

If Cats really want Hendo they can come up with the picks and if they arent careful...with a player too.

If we can meet Carlisle's terms and get him through the PSD IF Essendon** demand one of our first round picks then we should get the 23 yo!!!

Pick 1 .....we use on Weitering

Pick 2 Kreuzer...I believe one Pies Tigers or Dogs will snag him, but Im happy with him as a Bluebagger....we use on Sasche

Pick 5 Hendo if Saints/Dons want him...we use on Parish

Pick 6 or 13 Yarran from the Dees or Tiggers or whoever wants ....we use on Curnow

Trade our second rounder for Lennon if he wants out...or Plowman or Philips

Round 3 pick for Rice

Round 5 pick for SOS

Round 6 we promote Byrne

Pick up Carlisle in the psd

Bell for Aish or Redden

Figure out how we get the other of Plowman or Philips and Lennon (if we use pick 2 on one of these 3). Perhaps PSD and maybe round 3 ...I can see us getting 1 maybe 2 but 3 will require a player and pick imo.

Stand our ground on Hendo and Yarran, and use our first round picks on best kids available....and the rest of them Carlisle, Lennon, Plowman, Philips, Lennon etc...find a way with my priority in that lot being Carlisle. Get our spine sorted this year then we focus on ruckmen and medfielders for the next 2 years.

You don't know how to play this game. What you're meant to do is take every snippet of unfounded gossip from unnamed sources, treat it as gospel (especially if it involves a bad deal for Carlton) and conclude that we're ruined, even though trade period doesn't even start for another 3 weeks.

You don't know how to play this game. What you're meant to do is take every snippet of unfounded gossip from unnamed sources, treat it as gospel (especially if it involves a bad deal for Carlton) and conclude that we're ruined, even though trade period doesn't even start for another 3 weeks.

Same people who whinge about the club resting on its laurels, content with the good old days and what happened in the past sure love bringing up every bad trade/draft pick that ever happened at every possible opportunity...

Had no idea Betts is doing well at Adelaide. Thanks guys.

We are like the reverse of moneyball if that remotely makes any sense.
We have and will sell/sold good , hell even matchwinning contributors at their lowest possible value in the past and will likely do so this year too -

i.e. Betts got us f-all (i dont consider the netting off of daisy as anything really),
Jacobs another GUN for picks in 33 and 67 i think,
Laidler for nothing now a starting 18 lock for the swans,
Garlett for nothing - just kicked 40 goals for the year, a great effort, for a team themselves that struggles to score much
Robinson for nothing - just won a B&F (tied i know but still)
Waite for nothing - career high season goal tally and a match winner in kangas first two finals
grigg - admittedly dont rate him that highly but still hes easily in our best 22 and we got collins for him...collins!?!? who the fv<k is collins?


Hendo - will get screwed into some sort of Walker + 2nd or 3rd round deal
Yarran - will get screwed into some sort of Lennon + 3rd round deal
Bell (who just quietly I think this guy is severly undersold , we have no other battering rams, a fukn critical piece of our midfield) - will get screwed into some sort of pick in the late 30s for him deal in a shallow draft
Menzel - will get screwed into some sort of sam kerridge + 2nd or 3rd round pick deal
PSD Pick 1 - won't leverage this properly as a bargaining tool in deals and will end up getting another Tutt type with it

and thats just what exited/will exit the club not to mention what has entered the club.

we also pay overs for unfounded potential that isnt there...
Warnock = done f-all, biggest princess in the AFL for picks 24 and 56 (compare that to the JAcobs for 33 and 67 and their respective outputs, WTF!?!?!?)
Jones - the fact we even traded full stop says it all. Offering a guy 3 years when nobody else would have given him 1! Here you go Liam - you're in such high demand we want to give you 1 million++ over 3 years. what the actual fcck?
McLean for pick 10 etc etc
The pick 7 for 3 players deal last year was also f'd.

BUY HIGH SELL LOW!!! Soul destroying shit!

I wish I could say that I am tripping balls right now and letting my imagination run wild but you really couldnt script this sort of sh1t !! Having said that it would make a ripping movie.

This club is cooked! please please please please SOS fix this sinking ship

You don't know how to play this game. What you're meant to do is take every snippet of unfounded gossip from unnamed sources, treat it as gospel (especially if it involves a bad deal for Carlton) and conclude that we're ruined, even though trade period doesn't even start for another 3 weeks.

I could see us being part of the Dangerfield situation.

Adelaide agree *not* to match Geelong's offer for Danger and Geelong then trade their first pick to them for someone rated between 20 and 30 on their list - an Otten or a Lyons or a Henderson - alongside Adelaide's 3rd round selection.

We then take the Adelaide pick, the Adelaide player and Geelong's second pick for our Henderson.

ADELAIDE lose Dangerfield, Otten, 3rd round pick (#48). Gain Compensatory pick (#?) and Geelong's first-round pick (#11).

GEELONG gain Dangerfield and Henderson, lose First-round pick (#11) & second-round pick (#27).

CARLTON lose Henderson for Adelaide's third-round pick (#48), Geelong's second-round pick (#27) and Otten.

* I mention Otten only because of the Talia to Adelaide rumours. Otten would seem to have fewer and fewer opportunities available to him and is a decent enough player.

Of course I'm sure this is *unfair* in some way. To someone. Somehow. The picks will change with free-agent compensation, but two third-round picks secures us SOSOS and Rice, and we then have an extra second-rounder to play with (or send to GWS).

We are like the reverse of moneyball if that remotely makes any sense.
We have and will sell/sold good , hell even matchwinning contributors at their lowest possible value in the past and will likely do so this year too -

i.e. Betts got us f-all (i dont consider the netting off of daisy as anything really),
Jacobs another GUN for picks in 33 and 67 i think,
Laidler for nothing now a starting 18 lock for the swans,
Garlett for nothing - just kicked 40 goals for the year, a great effort, for a team themselves that struggles to score much
Robinson for nothing - just won a B&F (tied i know but still)
Waite for nothing - career high season goal tally and a match winner in kangas first two finals
grigg - admittedly dont rate him that highly but still hes easily in our best 22 and we got collins for him...collins!?!? who the fv<k is collins?


Hendo - will get screwed into some sort of Walker + 2nd or 3rd round deal
Yarran - will get screwed into some sort of Lennon + 3rd round deal
Bell (who just quietly I think this guy is severly undersold , we have no other battering rams, a fukn critical piece of our midfield) - will get screwed into some sort of pick in the late 30s for him deal in a shallow draft
Menzel - will get screwed into some sort of sam kerridge + 2nd or 3rd round pick deal
PSD Pick 1 - won't leverage this properly as a bargaining tool in deals and will end up getting another Tutt type with it

and thats just what exited/will exit the club not to mention what has entered the club.

we also pay overs for unfounded potential that isnt there...
Warnock = done f-all, biggest princess in the AFL for picks 24 and 56 (compare that to the JAcobs for 33 and 67 and their respective outputs, WTF!?!?!?)
Jones - the fact we even traded full stop says it all. Offering a guy 3 years when nobody else would have given him 1! Here you go Liam - you're in such high demand we want to give you 1 million++ over 3 years. what the actual fcck?
McLean for pick 10 etc etc
The pick 7 for 3 players deal last year was also f'd.

BUY HIGH SELL LOW!!! Soul destroying shit!

I wish I could say that I am tripping balls right now and letting my imagination run wild but you really couldnt script this sort of sh1t !! Having said that it would make a ripping movie.

This club is cooked! please please please please SOS fix this sinking ship

Do you work for Adelaide or Geelong?