Don't want a baa of him

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AD 3/3/14

best one yet

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Koperek.

Really need to completely disregard form of players this year.

Terrible coach, terrible injuries, terrible atmosphere.

Everyone starts with a clean slate this preseason IMHO.

Thanks Caz, that makes me very nervous.

Good news re Aish if the lions are insisting he goes via PSD, I'd take him for nothing

Which is what Bolton has told the entire playing list too

Trade Hendo + 2016 2nd rounder to Geelong for 2016 1st rounder + 2015 2nd rounder (about #29).

Trade Bell to Brisbane for 2015 2nd rounder (about #21).

Trade #19, #21, #29 to GWS for Tomlinson, Plowman, Sumner & Lamb.

Net result:
In- 2016 1st rounder (likely mid teens), Tomlinson, Plowman, Sumner, Lamb
Out- Hendo, Bell, 2015 pick #19, 2016 2nd rounder (likely low 20s).


Hang onto 2015 3rd rounder for Rice.

Keep Yarran unless Richmond or another club cough up 2015 first rounder (straight swap).

Forget Josh Walker.

Get Carlisle or Aish via PSD.

Am I kidding myself?

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Absolutely, paying overs for GWS rejects again, please tell me it ain't going to happen.

Tomlinson & Plowman aren't rejects. Sumner & Lamb might be depth players, but we are not going to be replacing the guys we need to cut with late draft picks because the draft pool is said to be shallow this year.

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I agree Tomlinson has plenty of potential however I've seen a fair bit of Plowman and can't say I've been excited with what I've seen from him.

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If all the mooted trades eventuate, I'd like to see the rd 1 team next season look something like this;

Buckley Jamo Weitering

Byrne Carlilse. Docherty

Touhy. Graham. Simpson

Gibbs. Tomlinson Menzel

Walker. Casboult. Thomas

Kruezer. Cripps. Murphy

Int - Everitt. Plowman Boekhurst Curnow

Emg - Sheehan Dvr Jaskch Lamb Smith

I've probably left someone out, but I reckon it's a well balanced team, definitely not an 18th placed team.
If fact with consistent form and fitness it could well push towards the 8.
Or am I being optimistic?

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Reckon Simmo would squeeze in there somewhere otherwise not bad - IF the trades happen of course!

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Yes, I agree, we want to keep a pick in the late teens to early twenties to see what gets through. One of the McKay brothers might be a good get. That's what good list management is all about, do the right trades if you need to but cover all the bases. History shows there are worthwhile key position players there for the taking in the second round about 80% of the time. The way we've managed our late first and second round selections over the years has been deplorable.

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..if our pick 1 can play right away, Bonus.. ..but dont lock it in, let him settle in..

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If he hasn't got 9 Brownlow votes by round 3, sakc weiterign

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Congratulations CK95

Should be spelt Weeeeeeeetering, cause thid kid us going to take us on a hell of a ride.

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Thoughts on trading our future 1st round pick in order to pick up more early picks?

Clubs like GCS would expect to have a few early picks this year - perhaps trading the future pick might be an option to be considered?

blues 2015 2nd round + 2016 1st round -> GCS 2015 1st pick + 2015 1st round pick (port/richmond from bennell/dixon trades) + 2016 GCS 1st pick

I'd entertain such a deal as I expect the blues to move off the bottom of the ladder next season + greater draft depth means that having a very early first round pick matters less.

For 2015, it would mean blues go from picks 1, 21, 39, 57, 75 -> pick 1, 3, 10/15, 39, 57, 75

Then combine with a few other trades such as
1. Dangle pick 10/14 in from of GWS for tomlinson + plowman + sumner + philips <- imo, our original pick 20 would be too low for both tomlinson + plowman.
2. bell -> brisbanes 2nd round (22) <- about par value
3. henderson + 2016 2nd round -> cats 2016 1st round + 2015 2nd round (29) <- par value given future pick uncertainty
4. yarran -> 2016 1st round pick <- par value due to future pick uncertainty
5. 22 (845 pts, bell) + 29 (653 pts, henderson) -> swans 1st pick (1067 pts, 16) + 2016 2nd round pick

Net result
players out -> henderson, yarran, bell (+carazzo, judd, ellard, watson, giles)
players in -> tomlinson, plowman, sumner, philips
2015 picks -> 1 (weitering), 3 (francis), 16 (collins), 39 (rice), 57 (SOSOS), 75 (unused - otherwise rookie upgrade if required)
2016 picks -> 3 X 1st rounds picks (GCS, cats, richmond), 1 X 2nd round (sydney) <- note: blues 1st and 2nd rounds in this year traded out

Would still need to free up at least one main list spot -> warnock being the obvious delisting. If we need to upgrade rookies, then either other players would be looked at, or we hold off on the sumner component of GWS trade

So gold coast would give us 3 first round picks in exchange for a 2nd round pick and a first round pick?

Thats the plan - if you don't ask, you don't get.

General consensus on the GCS board is that they will have too many picks in 2015 following bennell + dixon trades.

There was a suggestion on the GCS board that they trade dixon pick (10) + GCS 2nd round + future 1st round for blues future 1st round.

For myself, I'd prefer to throw a second round back their way in order to try and nab pick 3

Actual value of the trade then comes down to where the respective teams might finish next year. Most would look at GCS and expect them to get close to the 8 next year, if not be in the 8. In contrast, typical football analysis -> team that finished bottom will finish bottom 2 again for the next couple of years. If this occurred, then the GCS would be break even/win the trade.

However, I look at our list, the players we have returning from injury, the non-impact of those leaving, the potential additions and development of youngsters and think that we will surprise a few and consequently be ahead on that trade

I have heard that the bombers are prepared to use there 1st round pick
on Matt Kennendy so GWS are prepared to let players go for second round picks
to get Kennendy

Cameron Ling said this morning that Matthew Stokes will be at Carlton next year.