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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:36 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:36 pm 
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Someone mentioned Murphy had 25 disposals, I find that incredible since he was completely anonymous, but I guess a turnover still counts as a possie, and he's always been a good accumulator of junk possessions. I shouldn't be harsh on him because his first 3 1/2 rounds were spectacular, but tonight was putrid.

Speaking of possies,did Phillips get one?

This.
It started with his Achilles heel, set shots for goal.
Missing that simple one from 20 out in the first set up the rest of his game.
On top of that, there were a few times he went to stupid positions and demanded the footy and then turned it over in the contest. I am sure he was trying to lift the team by example but this was a shocker of a game from him.


Thomas was much better tonight, yeah?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:38 pm 
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Good signs from Charlie. Much improved played with more intent and imposed himself at times. Big positive.

Jack was great again. Old head on very young shoulders.

Plow was great down back that was under immense pressure and will be a great leader down there.

March, like Jack, is a smart player with a bit of shit in him. Love 'em both.

These young blokes are going to have to do this the hard way without a strong senior group to help them much unfortunately.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:38 pm 
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Jw has to play back for kJ and McKay to play forward with Rowe and White
to be dropped for good
Cunningham to come in for Wright
Hope Kruz is fit if not play Levi in the ruck get rid off Phillips total dud

Harsh. Had no pre-season and couldn't even run due to a foot injury.
Two weeks back in the twos and forced to play due to Kreuzer getting injured.
Having said that, he played like someone with no pre-season.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:39 pm 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
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Someone mentioned Murphy had 25 disposals, I find that incredible since he was completely anonymous, but I guess a turnover still counts as a possie, and he's always been a good accumulator of junk possessions. I shouldn't be harsh on him because his first 3 1/2 rounds were spectacular, but tonight was putrid.

Speaking of possies,did Phillips get one?


If T is for Turnover, Murphy had none.


Its probably tackles


Not sure why you are defending Murphy's game tonight.. my read was that he played pretty selfish football.. it really wasn't great leadership by example.....


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:40 pm 
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Positives

Fish
Levi
Charlie
SPS
Ploughman solid
Draft picks

Negatives

Phillips around the ground work
Worst 3rd Q in memory


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:41 pm 
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Jw has to play back for kJ and McKay to play forward with Rowe and White
to be dropped for good
Cunningham to come in for Wright
Hope Kruz is fit if not play Levi in the ruck get rid off Phillips total dud


Rowe was excellent and White was actually pretty good...and yes drop Wright. No point in having a guy that can slot it through the middle when your destined for martyrdom.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:41 pm 
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Blue Monday wrote:
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
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Someone mentioned Murphy had 25 disposals, I find that incredible since he was completely anonymous, but I guess a turnover still counts as a possie, and he's always been a good accumulator of junk possessions. I shouldn't be harsh on him because his first 3 1/2 rounds were spectacular, but tonight was putrid.

Speaking of possies,did Phillips get one?


If T is for Turnover, Murphy had none.


Its probably tackles


Not sure why you are defending Murphy's game tonight.. my read was that he played pretty selfish football.. it really wasn't great leadership by example.....


Can you give some examples of why his leadership by example was so poor?

No one puts their head over the footy and gets less support from his teammates than Murphy.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:44 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
Hard to watch but not a disgusting effort
Kids not fit enough not strong enough not enough experience
Tried hard
Must take hat off to Levi terrific game to kick 4 goals amongst that was really good whatever and however he got the goals

3rd quarter the worst and disappointing that it was a repeat of last week

Port flat track bullies and ok but won't beat the good teams

Just need to get games into these young guys

Thought Charlie Curnow looked better tonight

Crippa also did well

Gibbs and murphy giving their all but overwhelmed


This, I couldn't have said it better.
Anyone having a go at Gibbs/Murphy don't understand modern footy.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:45 pm 
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Jw has to play back for kJ and McKay to play forward with Rowe and White
to be dropped for good
Cunningham to come in for Wright
Hope Kruz is fit if not play Levi in the ruck get rid off Phillips total dud


As much as I'd love to play McKay I'd hate him to have to play in our forward line right now while he's still developing.

Bring Jaksch in and throw Weitering back. If I know our Match Committee though they'll play both Kreuzer and Phillips and leave Levi as our one KPF and destroy his confidence just like last year.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:48 pm 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
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Someone mentioned Murphy had 25 disposals, I find that incredible since he was completely anonymous, but I guess a turnover still counts as a possie, and he's always been a good accumulator of junk possessions. I shouldn't be harsh on him because his first 3 1/2 rounds were spectacular, but tonight was putrid.

Speaking of possies,did Phillips get one?


If T is for Turnover, Murphy had none.


Its probably tackles


You really need to develop some thicker skin and accept criticism of your poster boy Murph...he had an ordinary game all round

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:49 pm 
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99prelim wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
Someone mentioned Murphy had 25 disposals, I find that incredible since he was completely anonymous, but I guess a turnover still counts as a possie, and he's always been a good accumulator of junk possessions. I shouldn't be harsh on him because his first 3 1/2 rounds were spectacular, but tonight was putrid.

Speaking of possies,did Phillips get one?


If T is for Turnover, Murphy had none.


Its probably tackles


You really need to develop some thicker skin and accept criticism of your poster boy Murph...he had an ordinary game all round


Ordinary or insipid?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:49 pm 
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Why did we pick so many quick players and then not run the ball at all.
One bounce for the night and Bolts went troppo in the box when it resulted in a free.
One bounce.
No run and carry at all.
The usual suspects waxing the footy and ignoring the kids. If their possession count is down that's one of the reasons. If we aren't going to run the footy, we need players who can play in the contest. Graham would have been better tonight based on the way we played.

Not many positives from the game but Charlie Curnow had a good first half. Tokk some nice grabs and that will be confidence boosting.
Jack will play a lot of footy for us. He is a footballer in his own right. Plays brave footy and is getting better every game.
Pickett is always just a hair's breadth away from doing something special and will be a good player.
Cripps.
Gibbs played well tonight despite his usual quota of panic kicks. Put him in a top side and he would be amazing. Let him go to Adelaide if we can get a decent pick for him. Everybody wins from that.

I was worried at 3/4 time we would lose by 100+. They held on against the odds in the last. Plus Port couldn't miss from anywhere on the ground in the end.

It will be interesting to see who plays next week against Sydney.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:51 pm 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
Blue Monday wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
Someone mentioned Murphy had 25 disposals, I find that incredible since he was completely anonymous, but I guess a turnover still counts as a possie, and he's always been a good accumulator of junk possessions. I shouldn't be harsh on him because his first 3 1/2 rounds were spectacular, but tonight was putrid.

Speaking of possies,did Phillips get one?


If T is for Turnover, Murphy had none.


Its probably tackles


Not sure why you are defending Murphy's game tonight.. my read was that he played pretty selfish football.. it really wasn't great leadership by example.....


Can you give some examples of why his leadership by example was so poor?

No one puts their head over the footy and gets less support from his teammates than Murphy.

Read my post. There are a couple in there.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:53 pm 
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For the record, can you repeat them? (given your post is not in the thread above)

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:54 pm 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
Blue Monday wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
Someone mentioned Murphy had 25 disposals, I find that incredible since he was completely anonymous, but I guess a turnover still counts as a possie, and he's always been a good accumulator of junk possessions. I shouldn't be harsh on him because his first 3 1/2 rounds were spectacular, but tonight was putrid.

Speaking of possies,did Phillips get one?


If T is for Turnover, Murphy had none.


Its probably tackles


Not sure why you are defending Murphy's game tonight.. my read was that he played pretty selfish football.. it really wasn't great leadership by example.....


Can you give some examples of why his leadership by example was so poor?

No one puts their head over the footy and gets less support from his teammates than Murphy.


Sure he puts his head over the ball, but to what effect? He had plenty of the ball but I cant recall a passage of play which translated into a positive result. When on the ball, quite a few were kick and hope disposals which turned over and went the other way. Even when he was forward, his kick either went to 3 on 1's or to no one.. that grabber in the last quarter was nonsensical.

Don't get me wrong that kick and hope gameplay was viral all night . (Gibbs was worse) but when one of your most experienced, talented players, who is also captain doesn't show some sense of poise, it quickly paints a negative picture for the 10 kids that are out there who haven't seen more than 10 AFL games.


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Good signs from Charlie. Much improved played with more intent and imposed himself at times. Big positive.

Jack was great again. Old head on very young shoulders.

Plow was great down back that was under immense pressure and will be a great leader down there.

March, like Jack, is a smart player with a bit of shit in him. Love 'em both.

These young blokes are going to have to do this the hard way without a strong senior group to help them much unfortunately.

It's like being at GWS all over again for them with a list full of kids getting spanked most weeks.
If Bolts can keep this group together for a few years with an injection of youth and experience via FA, they will go OK.
I used to go ballistic after a loss like this in the old days but now we have a long term plan I can cop it as long as there are signs we are on the right track.
I think we are but I do wish the older players would trust the kids a bit more and give them a chance to show what they can do.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:56 pm 
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Senior players really need to carry the youngsters, but I am not seeing it. It will either make the kids stronger going forward or it will destroy them


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And the examples were....?

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TruBlueBrad wrote:
For the record, can you repeat them? (given your post is not in the thread above)

Yes it is.

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