I’m terribly concerned we won’t be able to attract the established quality players we need even with Cripps. Without him.......?

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We are on our way back...

we are to slow we have been for years especially from our backline.

Correct ...

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Patrick Keane
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4m4 minutes ago

Match Review of last night's Carlton / St Kilda game at Etihad Stadium has been completed.
One charge laid.
One other matter explained in detail.
Jed Lamb can accept a 1-game sanction for unreasonable/unnecessary contact to eye region of Jade Gresham.

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James Sicily will be relieved

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"IF YOU FAIL TO PREPARE, YOU'RE PREPARED TO FAIL" - Mark Spitz

Says a lot about our list and form that I think Lamb would be a loss if he is out...

This. Our "middle aged" players are a real worry. We have good kids, then with some exceptions we have a range of cast offs, has beens (may Daisy never play another game) and never was battlers. Our lack of depth is appalling.

yep until that depth is addressed I do not know how anyone can make a call on Bolts - actually I know how they can, I just think they are wrong to do so.

As we continue this rebuild

then Shaw, O'shea, Jones, Garlett (unless something changes quickly), Mullet, Rowe, will not play and we will have midfield depth and pace on the outside.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Pros:

Cripps, Fisher, Charlie.
Kennedy.
Harry and Dow.

Cons:

Just about everything else.
Defensive zoning and shoot out footy that gives us no chance of winning.
I don't know if they're just exhausted and playing on fumes. Or whether they've lost all confidence. But the fumbles, and drop marks, and horrible turnovers were inept even by our own low standards. It was like the Gold Coast game earlier in the year.
Sick of seeing our young team being bullied by opposition sides.
Crap umpiring. Must have been 15 holding the ball decisions against us. And most of them were correct. But the same adjudication never seems to hold with other teams. St Kilda seemed to be allowed to hold the ball in, or throw it out. And then I saw Richmond last night, and they did it with even more abandon.

EFA

Agree on both points.

Lot of players looked they didn't want the responsibility of kicking it. LOB is a classic example with 5 kicks and 14 handballs. With his skills, he should be a 14 kick and 5 handball type of player.

I agree. He was clearly trying hard. But some of his kicks were a shocking example to younger teammates.

Oh yeah, those early game injuries are driving me mad.

AFLCA Votes

8 P Cripps
7 J Steven
7 Billings
6 Steele
1 J Sinclair
1 R Marshall

Leaderboard

71 Max Gawn MELB
68 Patrick Cripps CARL
62 Shaun Higgins NMFC
59 Nat Fyfe FRE
58 Tom Mitchell HAW
53 Andrew Gaff WCE
53 Steele Sidebottom COLL
51 Dayne Beams BL
50 Dyson Heppell ESS
46 Brodie Grundy COLL
46 Rory Laird ADEL
46 Dustin Martin RICH
45 Trent Cotchin RICH
45 Clayton Oliver MELB
43 Kane Lambert RICH
42 Ben Cunnington NMFC
42 Jack Darling WCE
42 Jack Macrae WB
42 Lachie Whitfield GWS
41 Joel Selwood GEEL

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ABC Grandstand gave Steele 1 vote, Cripps 0

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"I had to eat"

I thought they were the sensible ones

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Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

I was listening in the car on the way home. Parko wanted to give Cripps 1 and the other two talked him out of it. Pretty much pushed him into it.

Cripps did go a bit quiet in the second half, didn't he? Can't blame them for giving the Saints a clean sweep, we were hot garbage.

They are fools.

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