So in essence, we get 1 and 3?

Where do I @#$%&! sign?

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

Given we are rebuilding it makes sense to hasten things so maybe trade our future first for an early first this year so in the above scenario we would have three early picks. If so I would go Walsh, Smith and Ben King. Love the versatility of Ben King. And Ben Silvagni also offers KPP versatility. So that would be as good an off season as you could dream to have.

The only thing that I could see stuffing it all up is if they give GC a compo pick after their first pick (#5) for Lynch. They would then have to explain to the rest of the comp that the first 5 picks will only go to Carlton and GC.

They don't deserve a PP.
Look at the ladder and recent history. If they get a PP we should get several.

I agree, but we both know that will never happen. There would be riots in Melbourne if the AFL did that.

The more I think about it, the more I think it's likely that we'll get 1 and 4. GCS will get 2, 3 (for Lynch) and an end of first round PP as their situation/recent history isn't as dire as ours has been.

I'd far prefer 1 and 3, but 4 will do.

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

Still, that would be a great result and we can pick up two gun midfielders for the next 10 years.

But if they did give GC a pre second round pick only then I think we would get 1 (pre first round) and 2, then GC 3 and 4 (Lynch)?

I think we are a chance to get several picks. One early and one at end of 1st round.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Everyone wants a strong Carlton.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Gold Coast will get at least the equivalent we do. Forget their recent history, they have AFL agenda in their camp.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Fantastic idea and logical if FA is to show some semblance of fairness.

I'd prefer that Top 8 sides, in particular top 4 sides can't be involved with FA.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Just give the flowering pick

club still recovering from stupid public statement in May about PP - which is looking more stupid every week

No need to discuss it in May Chad could have and should have sidestepped issue

Now obviously softening stance - stupid -do this stuff behind closed doors with AFL -get the deal done and then apply for the pick at the end of the year knowing what the result will be before making it a public debate and talking point

Only thing that original statement and position and then apparent backflip does is to raise concern with supporters who think it is another example of the Club not knowing what to do and misreading the play, misreading the messaging to the members and failing to understand the system and how it works

I strongly disagree to the point where I think the clubs stance with the PP is almost genius.

At the start of the year we would've been accused of tanking and the media was already out to get us when it was suggested. They waited and now all of a sudden the media are becoming pro us getting a PP. What makes it even better is that GC need help from the AFL and they can't be seen giving help to one and not the other. It's a win win for the club and the supporters who see this know and the ones who don't will know at the end of the year.

Genius.

Correct except I think for the bit about it being the club’s genius.

I reckon they were tapped on the shoulder by head office earlier in the year.

The AFL hated the tanking issue and suddenly it’s no longer an issue.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

Watching Gill from the AFL talk about free agency trading one can read behind the lines that he thinks it is working wonderfully.

Gill on Talking Footy last night:

Wayne “let’s talk about free agency. Tom Lynch. Is it fair that the best player at the worst club gets to the best club?”
Gill “I don’t know if it is free agency per se that you should look to there. If Tom wasn’t a free agent and wanted a change he would get there via a trade anyway..”

Gill's words deciphered for accuracy: - so in more accurate words, we at the AFL are happy for the best players to be traded to the best clubs, and the sub-par players - the O'Sheas, the Sumners etc - get traded to the rubbish clubs. We don't have the will to take on the players association, with our mate Dangerfield doing the exact same thing in his career. We all laugh that Adelaide got paid peanuts for such a good player. Trading is working beautifully. There is no conflict of interest.






Wayne Carey has another go of drawing the truth out of our Carlton friend Gill.

“not many top players are going to want to go to a poorer club or one at the same level are they?"

Gill “I have great confidence in Mark Evans. He’s been there 18 months and he's made dramatic change. They are working on a great environment for success at the Gold Coast. They have a new coach, a new football manager etc. When you look at Brisbane 2-3 years ago before david noble came in. people get a bit distracted by individual trades or movements.”





His words deciphered for accuracy:

Wayne, I am not going to answer your question. Instead I am going to waffle on about something completely different. I know you were asking if free agency is working, but instead I am going to talk about how we need to funnel more money into the Gold Coast.


The system is broken. Tom Lynch will not go into the draft. As Tom Mitchell got to Hawthorn, Tom Lynch will get to one of only 3 clubs. If he went into the draft at the very least if he didn't want to go to Carlton he would have to upp his asking price and force Collingwood to do a fair trade for him.


By limiting the trade to 3 teams it really isn't competitive for his bid. It is a closed market, and whenever that happens you have distortions of the market.

Agree and that only be equitable to all parties both Blues & Suns have been in a horrible state for quite a few years and need help.
AFL can no longer bury thir head in the sand.

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Go Blue Boys

I know we all do.

we effectively have half the media campaigning that we should get a PP on our behalf and we've reached round 20 and have yet to be accused of tanking
Let's not kid ourselves the decision to give us a PP or not will have zero to do with the formalities of an application