Never good to be beaten by bottom of the ladder. Always seems to happen around this time of year. Fixture request for 2022, play north, hawks adulaide in the first 10 rounds...

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i dont get this one Heavs, what happened?

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my last one was rubbish

we did this last year as well. played a few good games towards the back en dof the season, got within a sniff of finals, and completely shit ourselves

history showed we were always gonna lose this game, as soon as there is something to play for, or the pressure is on to perform, we fold like a deck of cards

extremely weak mentality of this group. teague hasnt changed it, i think it has gotten worse under him

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my last one was rubbish

Dow was fine today, way down on the list of problems.

Kennedy was stuck in the same situation as Cripps today, trying to plug holes up forward.

At least 2 of Pittonet, casboult, McKay, Charlie, Omac or even Gov would of helped immensely with our structure today.

If everything was going right for us we may of been able to get 7th/8th, but I don’t think we are that far below par for the side we have, which is probably 10th/11th.

Worse than under Bolts? You are having a laugh

Midfield has been a joke for years but so has the backline and forward line

I think we got the backline and forwardline in good order.

Throw some assets towards Tom Mitchell and Josh Kelly as RFA

As this midfield is lacking in A grade quality....

A player that is doing "okay" in the midfield belongs in VFL.

Where do find the money for Mitchell and Kelly?

Let’s find the money for Clarke Lyon or Buckley

Different energy today. Is it Cripps? Murphy? Something else?

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"I had to eat"

We should - Murphy, Betts, Levi retiring should free up some space along with salary cap going from $13.4m to $16.5m

I think there is enough to bring both - but that would be the last two "big names" then draft only for few years the way I am seeing it.

I tried hard to look at set ups and structure.
Looked at the method NM used to work the ball out of defence and carlton's.
I noticed the pressure NM heaped on our defenders and in the midfield, and Carlton didn't.

I don't think we have a structure or method to work the ball out of defence.
I don't think the players worked hard enough, and I'm sure they didnt try their hardest.

Crap that we were good at tackling and 1%ers compared to NM.
Our tackles don't stick and seem easy to break.

Jones was on Larkey.

... I'm sick of this crap and hero worship.

Cripps was dominated by Cunington.

Cripps is a shadow of the player he was.
When Kreuzer was injured Cripps still was able to work hard and read the tap of the opposition.
Cripps doesn't try hard enough to impose himself on the game.

I made plenty of comments in the match day thread about bad cripps when I saw bad cripps. I didnt make it up.
Ball watching. Dow attacks the ball harder in the centre than Cripps. Dow is still21yo.

Have a look at how many midfielders in the AFL have gone past Cripps....its a long long list, starting with Walsh.....there's heaps from every team.
There lies the truth. Cripps has to compete against them AND BEAT THEM.

Cripps the contested bull is a story about a hero in the past.
If he's injured, then he shouldn't be playing.
Get him fit, and reload for next year.

If Cripps knew Goldstein was going to win most taps, why didn't he win some?
5 Clearances....what, with some wobbly handball to ... whoever was there from either team. 66% Disposal efficiency.
I'm grateful for his 3 goals. truly. What I'm saying is his desire and defensive side of the game are lacking this year (and last year too).

Cripps doesn't get his 20 plus handballs anymore and dish them out. That's all dried up.

I'm not against playing Cripps, but I'm not going to give him th e hero worship others do because he won 20 disposals and kicked 3 goals.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

no i'm actually serious. i do think at least under bolts for the majority of the time we played as a team, and he had an excuse of youth. but the willingness to give up so quickly when the going gets tough seems to have increased under teague. while we arent getting belted now, the team seems to do just enough to get an honourable loss and thats it - no guts to fight through (last week aside - i had hoped we had turned the corner last week, but that was just an anomaly) we are just too weak mentally, and as a more mature side, this is unacceptable. hence it has gotten worse

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my last one was rubbish

and get rid of mcgovern too. or rookie him and play him back

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my last one was rubbish

Forget comparing Bolton with Teague - Bolton lost the players.

It's not Teague's fault Bolton got himself sacked.

Knowing Carlton's form, we'll miss on Kelly and find a fortune for Mitchell.

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#sayerscouldbetheman!!

What if Teague loses the players? today looked eerily familiar...

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“I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.” ― Richard Feynman

Kennedy couldn't pick the ball up today. Couldn't bend over.
He played midfield minutes, don't worry about that.
Maybe he went into his shell with Cripps taking the lead role? I don't know.

First quarter misses for goal deflating: Owies, Silvagni.... FMD...in the first quarter when still relatively fresh.

Can't wait to move on Williamson and Newman next year.

Williams was good when on the ground.
Saad didnt look confident taking them on with his speed for some reason. He was OK.
Martin didn't do enough. That left foot shot at goal was not practised, looked like guess work.

Once Betts and Williams were gone, so were we.

SPS, Fisher, Cottrell not strong enough for AFL.

Jones didn't respect his opponent again.
He looks great when he doesn't have an opponent.

Bad Plowman today.

Needed someone with height in the forward line.
Jack was dominated by Goldstein. Felt sorry for him. Won a tap though.

I'm sure a CHF and FF would have made a huge difference, but the way we pressured their defenders was pathetic: smla forwards and midfielders to blame.

Anyone think the boys gave it their best are kidding themselves.

3 more games with Murphy....maybe. Where was his experience on show when needed? He's finished.
I don't mind giving him 3 more as sub, then he can just retire. Talk about playing one year too many.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

If he loses the players then its curtains for him.

He is too good of a coach to let that happen - too many years in AFL environment.

Positives:

Walsh got 27 possessions but didn't really hurt the opposition today. Pass.
Thought TDK did really well in the first half, but got beaten by an AA ruckman 15 kilos heavier. Pass.
Dow is improving. Loved some of the contested work he did. Pass.
Weitering was great for most of the game. Let his opponent kick a couple easy goals. Pass.
Williams looked really good before he got injured. Pass.
Saad tried, but not his line breaking self. Pass
Silvagni tried hard, but did some silly stuff and missed an easy goal. Pass.
Cripps kicked 3 goals, got beaten by Cunington. Pass.

Missing our KPF's really hurt. Injuries to 7 best 22 still hurts, but not 39 points worth against the bottom team with two midsized players missing from their best 22.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue