SurreyBlue wrote:
CarltonClem wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
One question how does ‘old’ Carlton have a bad culture when old Carlton were successful.
Do people even realise what they are saying.......goodness.
Old Carlton relies on money and fails to take into account the new playing field brought about by equalisation strategies like the salary cap and the draft.
It appears the Board are not the only people who have failed to recognise or understand this.
20 years of failure, 3 f@#ing rebuilds and I don’t know how many coaches, 1 finals appearance and you still don’t get it. What else can anyone possible add!
One more thing, just remember when the Pratt’s and Mathieson’s, etc. came back on to the board and maybe, just maybe you’ll work out how we actually paid out the debt as well.
I do give up sometimes with all you newbies....
I'm not sure how your response relates to Clem's post, or what the shortfalls of his comment are.
I don't want to speak on behalf of Clem, but I understand what he means by 'old Carlton'. It's about process, values, and a way of doing business, and how 'old carlton' adapts to the new world, or not, questioning whether if other areas of the club, like the Board, has adjusted to the new playing field, after 2 decades of Bottoming out, still thinking money solves everything.
The Soft Cap Tax is maybe the last frontier the "Old Carlton" can work its wonders. Do you understand the Soft Cap Tax? Pratt's and Mathieson's offer to pay it if [ list conditions they want for them to open up the purse for the soft cap tax].
Clem isn't a Newbie he's well versed in the last 2 decades of crap, and understands the nuances of the club and its benefactors.
We need to remember Collo was going to hand back the keys after he got shafted by Demetriou, Evans and co.
We had Billionaire Benefactors back then, and lets remember Pratt and Mathieson are not the only wealthy Benefactors at Carlton, but none threw in any coin to save us. We even got Smorgon to Presidency and he provided some sponsorship dollars. I can't remember if Richard Pratt said it, but when the AFL gave us the interest free loan to move to Docklands, the Benefactor(s) said something along the lines "[the club has to learn to work its way through this conundrum]". That was 20 years ago. We only got out of debt this year. It was only when Kerna approached Pratty for help because he was cornered in a surrender position.
Yeah Mathieson's pokies helped in the last 5 years, along with Visy sponsorship and the Judd Ambassadorship, but its still 'old Carlton' with their methodologies.
This year, and for the next 3 years, they are backing Sayers to take advantage of the debt free platform, and good cash flow. The focus is the footy department. It needs fixing.
Unless you're at every Board meeting and every Finance Committee meeting you wouldn't know what transpired. We can all guess, and some things leak outside the 4 walls, moreso when things aren't going our way, but no one in footy forum land really knows what's going on and said.
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