When you lose one of your most important players so early it does unsettle the side and structure and of course no JSOS was just salt in the wound.

(can we just get a @#$%&! half decent injury run though, @#$%&!).

I still think we would have lost even if Pittonet played as Freo are a good side and their strengths are our weaknesses.

I think the hard thing tonight was our bottom 6 was more like a bottom 8-10 and they were all just fairly shithouse.

Whats with the ground there? Players fell over all night and skidded along like it was sand.

Yep I prefer LOB to Cottrell and Newnes.

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O'Brien played today

Had 20 or 25, some good long kicks. Pretty standard stuff.

Love his kicking game, something they lack. Just not sure Voss is happy with too many outside players

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Saad and ??? I reckon you probably need more than one player who can break lines

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Team depth stretched .
We need the best players available and fit.
Pitto Kennedy JSOS McGovern MacDonald

To many better players missing.
Newes Cotrell Parks Young TDK Fisher fringe

Martin Owies Durdin quiet

Walsh 30 odd nothing touches

Cripps is in red hot form

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I don't like this attitude that we've been lucky to win games, no doubt someone will say "we easily could've been 0-6!" To blow a big lead you have to be good enough to get a big lead in the first place. And against both Hawthorn and Port we'd blown the lead by midway through the final quarter but showed enough character and composure to reverse the tide. We need to give credit where it's due, we're 4-2 because we've won 4 games fair and square, didn't turn up for one, and had our weaknesses brutally exploited in the other.

Obrien isn't the answer.
He is useless and not AFL standard.
Carroll needs to come in and play that wing roll or Williamson.
We keep moving the deck chairs with Newnes and Obrien, both aren't up to it.
Move on and try something new coz what's the definition of insanity????

Rotate Cerra , Walsh and Hewett on a wing and the other wing role should be Williamson or Carroll.
The time has come enough is enough

I have correctly tipped carlton games 6 times this year.

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Thanks, hopefully he's just been given a spell to work on a few of his weaknesses.

I'm keen to see Carroll too, and by no means am I saying LOB is a champion in the making, but putting any stock in Willo is the insanest of the insane.

Try him on the wing coz what's happening so far has not worked or even come close to working.
At least Williamson has a crack

If only Charlie too a bit more time to kick for goal in the last quarter when we could have been within 3 goals, things might have been different. We didn’t deserve it but ...

Hopefully Voss has seen enough of Parks, Newnes and Cottrell.
Our small forwards in Dudin, Owies and Fisher had an absolute shocker of a night. Our small defenders not much better. We just need Plowman to lock down on one small defender. Stocker needs to come in ASAP as well. Harry was disappointing.

Our midfield along with Doc, kept us in the game. Young is showing plenty and I’m worried about Weitering. He is carrying something. TDK battled on well and we desperately need JSoS, Kennedy and Pitto up and running. Hopefully Pitto isn’t out for long, else I feel we are in deep trouble.

Lack of leg speed was an issue. Yes, we have some speedy players, but overall we are hardly the quickest side going around.

On a positive note we kicked two goals in the third quarter.

Lots of talk about the small forwards struggling. Only had 38 inside 50s to 56. Pretty even clearance battle.

Big numbers for the midfielders but didn't connect well enough to get it inside 50.

Freo not put under enough pressure when they had the ball. On the other hand Freo made life difficult for Carlton.

The clearance one wood is excellent but beyond that pretty average.

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LOB unlucky to be dropped
Fisher, Owies, Setterfield lucky to not have been dropped
Dow unlucky to not be given a game this year
Newnes and Cottrel were NEVER the answer, regardless of their VFL form
Boyd...what can I say!!

I DGAF about players in the ressies having to earn their spot in the seniors. While that is a default position, I DoGAF about players in the seniors who are continuously playing poor football and not being dropped

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I watched it at the Great Northern & couldn't hear the commentary. Had it been raining in Perth? The ground looked heavy & the ball slippery on TV.

I'm not too gutted with the result. As soon as Pitto went off I pretty much wrote the game off. Huge loss.

The Owies dropped mark was a real killer...we were heading for a goal at that point. Martin dropped another crucial one at one stage also. Plus in the 3rd I think, one of our players got caught HTB after a good buildup when his teammate didn't shepherd for him.

I don't really agree with the knocks on Harry. Got smashed in the nose against GC the other week & came back on. Shoulder injury last year against Melb & came back on & kicked 3. He did look really sore tonight.

Did anyone else get injured? Saad was limping in the 4th was he? Martin?

Just wasn't our night.

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That folks is where we are at
We have so many overpaid overrated players
Not much has changed from last year
Jack Martin lovers
Eat your words
Lachie Schultz pick 57 showed how to be proactive on the forward flank
Hope Carroll Philp Dow Motlop and Honey come on
We need them to

He'll be calling for the oxygen cyclinder before quarter time. Does not have the endurance to run the wing. Carroll may be given a shot as he played some time there in the practice games. I would like to see Honey and Philp given a go although all are coming back from injuries so may be a month or so before they get their shot. Also Walsh rotates through the wing when Kennedy, Crippa, Hewitt and Cerra are all playing together.

I thought Martins game was OK given the limited opportunities and the way the ball was being delivered. I didn't see him shirk any contests. Carroll is a midfielder so wont replace Martin and Honey I think should replace one of the smalls ie Owies, Durdin or Fisher.

What is wrong with you? You seem more interested in being right than seeing the team succeed. Just do one you moaning flower.