I’m ok with Owies being our premier small fwd at the moment, but I am worried that we may have rushed him back in, I would have liked him to have at least one vfl game as he’s been out for awhile.

Dunno what Silvagni is upset about, he'll be straight back in next week after one of our talls gets injured in the first 10 mins.
This is the Carlton way.

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Should he be happy to be dropped? What a curious thing to say.

B: Plowman Young McGovern
HB: Docherty Weitering Saad
C: Setterfield Cripps O'Brien
HF: Durdin McKay Fisher
F: TDK Curnow Owies
Foll: Pittonet Kennedy Walsh
Int: Newman Motlop Cerra Cottrell (Silvagni)

It's a good side. The next 4 weeks are they trying to work out best side and how we balance it out? IMO we are a tall short and would play Silvagni over a small forward. That gives us flexibity and options

This side is missing Hewett Silvagni Dow Honey Williams Marchbank Stocker Martin Boyd Newnes Hayes who are Best 22 or around the mark and played this year and will all be available soon. Going to be very interesting how we line up going into finals. I'm not sure Voss fully knows yet

Obvious joke not quite obvious enough I guess *shrug*

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I agree it is a good side. Marchbank to replace Plowman in the next 1-2 weeks and our back 7 look settled. The midfield looks better with Pittonet back and the option of rotating Walsh through the Midfield, wing and HHF. I think to me the forward line is still a bit predictable especially without JSOS. Players are either tall or short. We miss the midsized option that a Jack Martin provides. A couple of games in the VFL and then I would bring him in for one of the smalls, probably Motlop.

Or we are all just feeling the pain for JSOS.

Good players get dropped from good teams all the time. I love JSOS but all this agonising over a squad rotation is unbecoming. He'll probably be back next week; there's several players whose places are far from assured if they're not at their best in Adelaide.

As Voss has said numerous times we are a work in progress and have a long way to go. You're right in that we have many players not yet established or guaranteed spots. This year has been about getting a game style in place which has made a difference.

I've mentioned players missing but I have high hopes for Kemp Carroll Mirkov Dow Stocker next year.

We are in a good spot but we are still figuring a lot out and have a lot of improvement to go.

Yeah but 3 talls is a lot for any defense to handle

I get what you're saying and agree but don't you think this is a positional/structural thing?

I think we all agree 2 rucks is the way to go

And then there is Charlie and Harry

The Qn as I see it is can we also have another tall in the forward half?

Look I may well be wrong, and in fact hope I am wrong.
Maybe they don't see Jack as a tall but more a mid size HFF like Martin, and they want to trial this weekend 3 talls and several smalls with no mid size HFF.
Or maybe it is about only being able to fit 4 talls in the forward half and they see Jack as a tall and as such this might not bode well for Jack in the future.

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Major concern over Riley Thilthorpe at Adelaide’s captain’s run this morning.

He limped off the track on Wednesday night with a rolled ankle, and just did a light jog with Burgess/Nicks watching on. Not convincing.

Expecting Himmelberg to be a late change today.

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Re Jack getting dropped. I guess 2 things stand out in my mind.
We're moving towards being a good side. In good sides, very few players are guaranteed selection.

And I'm obviously a crap judge. I thought Jack's form was pretty good.

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Interesting that at start of the year Vossy was happy to go in with 2 rucks in addition to JSOS and 2 talls up front. We were probably playing our best footy at that point and a month out from the finals he has decided to move away from that.
Maybe he wants to see how we look with 2 specialist rucks and one less medium to tall up front before deciding on what is best for team balance.
If we're picking purely on form, I reckon JSOS is very stiff and both Corey and Jessie are very very lucky. Love them both and reckon they'll both be rippers. Corey showed a lot early in the year but maybe his first full season is taking a toll. Think he has for most part been poor for best part of 8 weeks now. Other than a very promising first quarter against cats, Jessie hasn't gone near it for 7 quarters since.
I reckon Corey probably needs a rest and Jessie a spell in the VFL.

As an aside, read this morning we've never won on this ground before and in fact our last win in SA was in 2013 where we came from behind to beat Port by a point to seal our most recent finals spot.
Looking forward to us breaking another hoodoo by winning on this ground and in the process sealing our first finals spot since 2013.

Yes but nah.

Surely ruck dominance is the preference, given the 6 6 6 rule and the fact we have 2 twin towers

I'm exactly the same. What is good is numerous players now know they must perform or they're out. That will just make us better

If you had to chose between Owies, Motlop and Durdin for a kick after the siren who would you chose?

Go see the Pies game again.

Stats can be misleading. Some shots might be too far out, or an a tough angle, or on the run / snaps with high difficulty.

Set shot, reasonable distance and angle, I reckon Owies and Cottrell might be the best shots at the club.

I think his form has been OK but I think the two games before the last game his kicking was poor early

Reckon it’s a 30-way tie under those conditions.

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No, but he shouldn't be a drama queen and a sook. There seems to be a feeling of entitlement among the Silvagni family of late that annoys me.
According to Agro, Jack specifically asked to be outlined as omitted and not managed. That's dramatic nonsense. Jack should have a word with Matt Kennedy and harden the @#$%&! up.
Kennedy was killing it in the VFL, was often the sub but he busted his arse every week and never once played the victim. He always had a smile on his face and the coaches commented on his positivity and commitment to the team no matter the level he played.
I'd suggest Jack accept the decision, give 100% without dropping the bottom lip and force his way back into the team with his performances.

From the outside looking in, I'd suggest Voss isn't the type of person to tolerate selfishness or negativity.

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