For once I agree with Synbad re: Bradley. Shit did I say that.

Seriously his antics in his last few years re: preseason training/contracts was a disgrace and more to the point should have been pulled up by the coaching panel right there and then. I would have striped him from the captaincy for starters. It showed no leadership what's so ever.

As for him running to the AFL .... well I think someone else is to blame here Bradley and SOS might have thought they where doing the right thing at the time, ie. our penalty would be less. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. I would have done a MadDog, but that's just me.

Synbad it is a different game now - players cant choose where they want to go - there is a lot more money available and its now a full time job.

Cant blame them for hanging out for what they can get - Our coach has led the way at screwing the club for everything he can get and not performing so you cant expect the players to do anything different .

Its the way of the world I sorry and it aint gunner change anytime soon.

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It is really a shame that the history we once thought was so ahead of other teams has been tanished by all this crap going on in the last few years I no longer look at Campo, Braddles etc etc as great Carlton men, they were just in there for the money and gave nothing back when it mattered. Sos is a different story, he is a Carlton man through and through and never held the club to ransom like some of the other clowns.

With Kouta, the next 2 years will determine if he really is a true Carlton man.

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Oh if thats the case whats your beef with what Pagan is on???
And we offered Kosi more .. he stayed for less.
We offered Luke Power more.. he stayed for less.
We offered Robert Harvey more.. he has stayed for less.
Greg Healey??>less
Justin Leppitch???>less.
Brent Harvey???>Less
Nathan Burke???>less

As a matter of fact the only players that were going to jump ship ftrom their clubs, for MORE MONEY, last year belonged to us and they were all in the leadership group....

We have paid over the odds and received less per $ from senior players , ore than any other club.

I used to think our players played for us because they loved the club.... not because we had to pay MORE!!!...

Whats happened over the last decade is that because we looked after our own better than any other club.. 'our own' ended up thinking we should have to wipe their arses for them... pay them above market value.. pay for their taxes even....
How funny is that???

Players spitting the dummy at the club because they BELIEVE the club is responsible for their taxation affairs....

We had a long line of players contracting one Dave Allison to manage their financial affairs.. to the absolute detriment of this football club.
The least the idiot could have done is lodged 'Dog' Browns paperwork to the AFL so it doesnt implicate us on his greedy deals.

Jack Elliot.. the man who couldnt stand seeing Carlton players leave to other clubs and with the motto "We never rebuild at carlton " was cannon fodder for these blokes..

They all knew it!!!... the arse end of this lot of players and mentality just hated that they missed out on the cream when it came to their time.....

Doull... a newsagency in Jacana...

Some of these blokes made million dllar businesses out of this club.

And whilst i believe all players should get out of footy with more than just a newsagency in Jacana...i dont believe they have to drink the well dry...
Whats wrong with them???

Cant they make money with a very good income for themselves after footy??
they act as if they need the very last 1$ coin they can scrounge from the club or they will be out on the streets.

Its still hurting us....!!!

Im sure it will change when those players bugger off before they contaminate the kids.

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Synbad, I get sick of reading the same old post. I agreed with you the first time - and I agree with you the 543rd time. Do I keep on having to have it shoved down my throat? Its like listening to Alan Jones talking about the ALP.

Molly just "do yourself a favour...................and................."

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But I'm a vegetarian.

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Congratulations CK95

Do you mean Synbad or Sydney Blue?

Good luck to Braddles. Good to see him getting a decent coaching position at last. No doubt has a heap to pass on to the next generation. Unfortunately it means he won't be a guest to take the Blues through a training session any time soon.

Wonder what sort of coach he will be? I bet he's as fit as he was when he retired, and could no doubt run half the Essendon* list off their feet...Braddles knew how to run and run and run, which really was the secret of his success.

Bradley did behave in a disappointing way trying to grab every last cent off the club.Not a great team man off the field and not really one of the boys.

Its like any business.The top guns get payed too much compared to the shit kickers.Its wrong but its a fact of life.Bradleys decisions off field towards the end mirror this.I was rapt when Campo didnt get his way and Kouta should simply play out the year and retire even if he has a better year than last year because the future isnt Kouta

F#$% Bradley, F#$% Campo, F#$% Kouta, F#$% Ratten, F#$% SOS, Diesel, Sticks, Doull, Jezza, F#$% em all!

It's all about the kids till they are near the end then f#$% them as well.

Great Carlton culture

The Game-uhhh is on the mark-uhhh.

He can't be wrong-uhhh.

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I agree with Synbad to a point. But, it is a business and you need to make the dollars when you can. Ask Adrian Whitehead or Phillips how they feel today. As one very high profile and well respected player manager told a current player on our list recently, "you may love the Blues but it's a fact you will have to face at some point in your career, that you may have to consider extending your career elsewhere". I'm not sure if I totally agree with that statement but it's a case by case situation. Certainly in Campo's case, he read the market poorly. He thought he could still earn the $400+ a year which is utter fantasy based on his form of the past two years. But, I s'pose from his perspective, there is no harm in asking.

I pose the question though, are we seeing somewhat of a change in attitude amongst clubs when putting a list together. In the United States, major NFL and NBL clubs are beginning to tire of the big demands of the so called franchise players. Some clubs have decided to build 'even teams' across the board rather than a team consisting of two or three extremely well paid champions coupled with a string of second rate players. I view the Swans as having done just that last year by compiling a very even "team" rather than building a team around three or four superstars.

Is that where we are headed at Carlton? I hope so.

By the way, keep up the good work Synbad. I'm not tired yet of hearing your views. Sometimes it hurts us to hear the truth about our past sporting heroes but it shouldn't stop one from airing his/her opinion.

Did anyone see that goal against West Coast at PP five bounces on the wing kicked it from 50 cant be unhappy with Braddley when he gives me life time memories .

Could do the unfathomable at times, and was a surprisingly good mark too...not many people credit him for that but he could hang on to some rippers.

I think he'd make a pretty good assistant coach given his wealth of experience. Not sure about his communication skills but is someone the young Bombers would look up to.

I think his communications skills are quite sound given the fact he had every player hanging off his every word that day he took training out at OO.

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Love Connolly's spin in this article that Sheedy finally landed the one that got away.

Ayres, Bradley top Sheedy list for Bomber jobs - The Age

I hope yor didnt doubt my infomation Mr C If Rohan Connilly says it true it must be!!!

My Beef with Pagan is the results he is acheiving -If he was performing I couldn't give a shit if we paid him 10 million. But his results are crap. Your bitch with the players is one of envy. You cant stand to see people acheive and be rewarded for their efforts you would rather see a battling prendagast or a struggling Wigans bust their gut but show little. I dont mind see our best players getting paid good money as they are our best .

You need to forget about the money and go and watch a game and look at who gets the ball - not at who is trying to get the ball. you keep trying to tell us they are soft cheap possessions - well there is nothing stopping the long list of players at our club who get 4 and 5 possesions a game going and collecting a few cheap ones.

You See Synbad you seem to have forgotten the most basic of concepts to our game and that is why we have the ball - they cant score .
Busting your gut on the training track is going to win you any games

kouta - campo - whitnal - and braddles got the ball - they were continually in our top 5-10 players - if the rest of our players performed like them we would be in this situation .

Elliott paid them that money because thats what others were offering for them - Do you think if someone offered that sought of money for wigans we would pay to keep him - No bloody way - why because he is shit.

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so ius wiggins shit or pagan can't coach? You can't have it both ways. You can't bag a coach for his performances and yet accept we have shit players - unless you infer they are shit because of his coaching?


as for Synbad's bagging while i do not agree with a lot of his rants i understand his point and think perhaps you should make an effort to do the same. he merely wants us to understand that we have a cultural problem at carlton that has infected (and may still infect) the club and until we get that culture to change (which may take a generation of footballers to achiece) we'll be treading water.

I am happy with what I have seen at training (though this year sadly I have only seen about 4 sessions), with the choices we are making with regards to recruiting, and with the changes to the coaching panel/style.

The rest is time. These young bods must be given time to mature.

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