doc, crippa, both leaders not playing well. if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....

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my last one was rubbish

The thing that boggles my mind is, he wasn't like this last year! He looked good with the ball in his hands under press, it wasn't just winning 1 on 1 contests that he was being praised for.

What has changed?

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The Artist Formerly Known As BamBam7

last year we were up and about. they were working for each other, talking, helping each other. this season, it's like 18 mostly strangers with a few who genuinely don't like each other running around doing their own thing.

there's zero communication out there, zero talk, zero hustle.

that's what's changed.

Yeah mate . First ten minutes of the first quarter was braking point for me . Emotion in football can only take you so far , but when the emotion is running you ride the wave . Nothing . Not a single thing .

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All my dangerous friends

You can work with people you don't like and still get the job done. I'm sure we've all worked with some flower before.

Surely footy players get paid enough to overlook the fact they're not besties with all their teammates.

Rod, you do know that the Dogs wanted t retain Young and offered him a contract.
He chose Carlton because he thought there would be more opportunity as an intercepting 3rd tall, if Marchbank didnt get over his injuries.

We had no choice but to throw him into a KPD after Jones left without warning and Oscar got injured.
He was fantastic for us last year. You do remember that?
This year the whole team has let down the defenders in the last 8 weeks from forward line to midfield, they have failed to provide pressure further up the ground.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Well said.
Surely nobody actually thinks that Carlton's gameplan is:

Get the ball
Stop and prop
Ensure all options are shut down
Listen for play on to be called
Pass laterally or backwards

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

Yes Chesty Bondi . Doing a stirling job . One bright light is our defence . Have been under siege all year . Even allowing for occasional lapses i.e. . Young brain fades on occasion and Saady running up a one way street now and again . There might be a bit of angst among them but they are still doing there job .

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All my dangerous friends

Rifts/factions aside what Voss needs to do is bring the player exit interviews forward to this week and bust some @#$%&! heads.
I'm sick of Carlton doing a Carlton every second year.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

I am also sick of Carlton doing a Carlton

Its an emotive game and we as supporters are part of it.......we want results understandably

Given our passionate and large supporter base, lets not underestimate our influence on the clubs decision making process. And the club and its supporters are newsworthy, so we are an easy pick.

As a supporter, I am implicated as much as everyone when i buy into rumours (simply stories). Our voice is loud and I believe we as a collective influence the clubs short term agenda to respond/react.

Clearly we have some issues and require some results. change needs to happen. however, we have many ingredients working for us and the sky is not falling.

My voice supports learning from what's happening (whatever it is and lean into it truthfully) and building rather than falling into 'Carlton doing a Carlton' and believing everything is shit and revert to a re-build.

Based on available evidence…..

Seriously, if the coaches know what they want the game plan to look like why are all of the players playing the same style? I could understand confusion for a week, maybe two, but to be 12 rounds in and dishing up this shit is unacceptable.

To absolve Voss and the assistants is crazy. Their job from Voss down is to instill the game plan and the confidence to execute.

* insert pic of Charlie Brown letting out a huge…”SIGH”……..…..here…*


kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

I just watched the vision and Weitering/Young definitely did a "low five"
I suspect we're looking for player conflicts that aren't there or at least exaggerating them.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

A make up
By the Pooper Scooper BV no doubt

Where is the laughing cry face emoji when you need it.

Who was it that said "if you could bottle confidence ...."
That's where the hard work comes in. Head down and keep turning up. No simple solution here but to stick together and work through it. It will turn.

Wojees post explains a lot. It only takes a few who dont follow instruction.

Either way, lets not go on a witch hunt and blame the coach because he and his team may be an easy target, because nothing is obvious for me. Seek to understand the truth is all we can do. Jumping at shadows aint healthy.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue