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jake_h03
 Post subject: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 12:03 pm 
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Not to disrupt the woe is us theme but without even thinking about it muc, didn’t the Cats just lose Hawkins & Blicavs, on top of Cam Guthrie, and Danger, Cameron & Duncan have also been out and/or playing injured this season.
And the Tigers lost Martin, Cotchin & Grimes on top of Lynch and in/out Prestia.
The Saints have had lots of injuries for large chunks of the year and Collingwood had key players out earlier in the season. Not to mention last year’s grand finalists Sydney missing Rampe and both McCartins for much of the year.


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I think the point is how many are soft tissue, ie avoidable


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jake_h03 wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
Not to disrupt the woe is us theme but without even thinking about it muc, didn’t the Cats just lose Hawkins & Blicavs, on top of Cam Guthrie, and Danger, Cameron & Duncan have also been out and/or playing injured this season.
And the Tigers lost Martin, Cotchin & Grimes on top of Lynch and in/out Prestia.
The Saints have had lots of injuries for large chunks of the year and Collingwood had key players out earlier in the season. Not to mention last year’s grand finalists Sydney missing Rampe and both McCartins for much of the year.


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I think the point is how many are soft tissue, ie avoidable


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Bit of a stretch to categorise all soft tissue injuries as avoidable.

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jake_h03
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Crusader wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
Not to disrupt the woe is us theme but without even thinking about it muc, didn’t the Cats just lose Hawkins & Blicavs, on top of Cam Guthrie, and Danger, Cameron & Duncan have also been out and/or playing injured this season.
And the Tigers lost Martin, Cotchin & Grimes on top of Lynch and in/out Prestia.
The Saints have had lots of injuries for large chunks of the year and Collingwood had key players out earlier in the season. Not to mention last year’s grand finalists Sydney missing Rampe and both McCartins for much of the year.


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I think the point is how many are soft tissue, ie avoidable


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Bit of a stretch to categorise all soft tissue injuries as avoidable.


Agree, but when you’re constantly getting soft tissue injuries it raises questions of the high performance program and player loads etc, as opposed to collision injuries which are largely bad luck or technique related and have little to do with the high performance team.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
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jake_h03 wrote:
Crusader wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
Not to disrupt the woe is us theme but without even thinking about it muc, didn’t the Cats just lose Hawkins & Blicavs, on top of Cam Guthrie, and Danger, Cameron & Duncan have also been out and/or playing injured this season.
And the Tigers lost Martin, Cotchin & Grimes on top of Lynch and in/out Prestia.
The Saints have had lots of injuries for large chunks of the year and Collingwood had key players out earlier in the season. Not to mention last year’s grand finalists Sydney missing Rampe and both McCartins for much of the year.


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I think the point is how many are soft tissue, ie avoidable


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Bit of a stretch to categorise all soft tissue injuries as avoidable.


Agree, but when you’re constantly getting soft tissue injuries it raises questions of the high performance program and player loads etc, as opposed to collision injuries which are largely bad luck or technique related and have little to do with the high performance team.


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True, but the goal is to be as fit as possible which means being taken to the edge of the cliff and not going over. All the data collected on individual players is used to achieve this. But its no guarantee and there is always the risk of soft tissue injury for any elite athlete. And it always takes time to work out what is best for each individual
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Any news in JSOS? Is he dead? Anything?
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jake_h03 wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
Not to disrupt the woe is us theme but without even thinking about it muc, didn’t the Cats just lose Hawkins & Blicavs, on top of Cam Guthrie, and Danger, Cameron & Duncan have also been out and/or playing injured this season.
And the Tigers lost Martin, Cotchin & Grimes on top of Lynch and in/out Prestia.
The Saints have had lots of injuries for large chunks of the year and Collingwood had key players out earlier in the season. Not to mention last year’s grand finalists Sydney missing Rampe and both McCartins for much of the year.


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I think the point is how many are soft tissue, ie avoidable


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You're right, we do need to know more about the injuries, and I'm thinking you're referring to us supporters.

I'm sure Russell knows more about his players than he did at the start and end of his first year at the club.


If players keep getting soft tissue injuries, then send them off the the USA or whatever. Those players know we cant keep carrying them.

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I'd rather improve on what we have and get more support and speciaised programs, but one thing is a must, every player had to be fit enough to play AFL footy to help us with a win.

Getting someone new to run the Strength and Conditioning will mean we have to start from the beginning, apply their hypotheses, suck it and see.

I think we will go backwards if we don't keep the best of what we have and know, and build on it. I don't think that's too hard.

I'm sure the club will conduct its annual review at the end of the season. The AFL has increased soft cap to enable that.

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Juanita Jones wrote:
Any news in JSOS? Is he dead? Anything?



Its freaky not hearing anything. Crickets. Weird.

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Apparently Cook said last week its 3-4 weeks.
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ALSO. Harry was at a sportsman's night thingy during the week and said he's "two weeks away".
So, GC.
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bondiblue wrote:
I'd rather improve on what we have and get more support and speciaised programs, but one thing is a must, every player had to be fit enough to play AFL footy to help us with a win.

Getting someone new to run the Strength and Conditioning will mean we have to start from the beginning, apply their hypotheses, suck it and see.

I think we will go backwards if we don't keep the best of what we have and know, and build on it. I don't think that's too hard.

I'm sure the club will conduct its annual review at the end of the season. The AFL has increased soft cap to enable that.


Yeah , changing canoes midstream is fraught with danger . Still , need to have a good hard look all the same . Just a look , not a witch hunt .

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Daily hammy check in ... any new cases?
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tommi
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Well….

i did my calf jamming with boys yesterday….!

hadn’t sat behind the kit for six weeks…serves me
right…!


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Your Hawks mate would be happy tommi!

Not so sure about the Pies one :lol:

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tommi
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Ha….

yup they were both here yesterday…we watched
the first 1/4 together…then the Pie man
went home…!

funny…!


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Any news on a return for Gov?
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missnaut
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The old 2-3 weeks.
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jake_h03
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Any news on a return for Gov?


The standard 2-3 I think

2-3 is the new 1-2


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tommi wrote:
Well….

i did my calf jamming with boys yesterday….!

hadn’t sat behind the kit for six weeks…serves me
right…!


kindest regards tommi

Poof...

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Teehee…!


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