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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:23 pm 
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If you compare our likely side with the one that beat the Dees in Rd 22 - we have gained Walsh and Cerra whilst lost Martin. On the other hand the Demons have lost Brayshaw, Van Royen and Melksham but have gained Fritsch.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:29 pm 
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BamBam7 wrote:
People calling for Pitto to be dropped was, unfortunately, predictable.

Staggered to see people calling for Marchy to be dropped. The way he finished yesterday's game, we can seriously consider playing McGovern forward next week to keep Lever and May honest.

Add in JSOS and/or Bam Bam, game on.

I like the idea that someone else mentioned where Bam Bam and Cripps could rotate between Forward and Mid.

Makes Cripps harder to tag. Bam Bam gets to hurt people. Everybody wins.


Haven’t read the negative posts yet whilst I’m on this high.

Completely agree with this post and am expecting the usual blinkered criticism of all the players you mention.

Swans are an inform team albeit a team who fell into the finals but imo last nights performance was the Swans best for the year given their opponent, another form team, Carrrrrlton

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:02 am 
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We have achieved our supporters goals thus far and next game is a free hit against a recent premier who we beat in last years preseason and haven’t feared them since. In fact they pinched it end of last year and we beat them just 3 weeks ago without Harry

Since our last game against them we have added Walsh and Cerra

Pitto smashed Gawn last game and I heard Goodwin wasnt happy with the physical violation of Gawn. That was Vossys instruction. This time it’s a Final. Pitto will do the same.

Harry will be out and SOS is the lead up CHF and mix it up with TDK deeper in forward line.

Bottom line. We have only lost Martin from team that last beat Dees and gained Cerra and Walsh.

I’m hoping Kennedy plays our marking HF rotating with Crippa.

I’d like Holland playing on the wing and expect Acres to play.

I will have a look during week who goes out.

I thought our bottom 6 were really good against Swans. Gov was one of those and he is important in our line up back or forward. Marchy gives us that flexibility.

I’m expecting Tom Mac and Grundy to be the KPFs. That’s good for us but Gov has to play tighter than last couple games

We can win this and prove we have Dees measure

We’ve plucked the duck, and next Friday..

Let’s exorcise these Demons

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:08 am 
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Oooh nice Bondy….

then we lance the Lion…followed by mugging
a murder of Magpies…!


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 6:51 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Bottom line. We have only lost Martin from team that last beat Dees and gained Cerra and Walsh.

Last time we played Cripps had a blinder but he is now clearly hampered with sore ribbs and there is no guarantee Acres will be fit to play. The Demons have gained Fritsch but lost Brayshaw, Melksham and Van Royen (likely suspended).
I suspect the Demons might be 'hungrier' for the win and I'm concerned about our goal scoring capacity - anyway time will tell.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 7:08 am 
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In my view the Demons have a choice to bring in Grundy and have Gawn spend more time up forward or they could bring in a small to replace Van Rooyen.
What would we prefer?

I would prefer it if they brought in Grundy. I’m concerned if they go small and completely change their F50 entry style which is harder for us to prepare for.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:09 am 
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I take it Ben Brown is not an option? Latest I saw about him was Knee - TBC on the round 24 injury list.

I'd be happy to see Grundy in. He was ineffective against us last time and upsets their chemistry. But I've got a lot of faith in our defence against all comers, only GWS in our Don't Care round have had any joy against them in the second half of the season.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:58 am 
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Next man up . Its as simple as that . A soldier down , another soldier in . Thats been the Voss mantra since he walked into the joint and it fits our Club perfectly . Never complain , never explain . With Harry out it is time for big Tommy to go forward and fill the void . No Jack Martin . Thats OK , we have another Jack . Jack Silvagni . Jack in fact is the perfect player to unsettle the May/Lever combo . We play very well when our backs are up against the wall .

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:23 am 
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Very confident.

I thought we got the nerves out of the way and will take a lot of confidence into next week. Swans were given opportunities by our mistakes that kept them in it. I thought McKay's two easy misses really hurt us

When we were up early and playing our game the Swans only kicked one goal and that was from our mistake.

Selection will be interesting. Two forced changes. McKay & Martin

It will be a clear night so I would add a bit more run. Acres proved how important is was to have a wing that can cover so much ground. Hollands has to be a serious consideration. Docherty for all his talent and effort doesn't cover the ground as much (not many do) and is better elsewhere

Dow would be my sub. A mid as a sub is the best option. Motlop comes into 22

The Two rucks stay. Can't change now especially with McKay out and Jack not having much game time.

Kennedy is the best option for Martin IMO. He is that midsize, tough, can mark and kick a goal. He has played this role before. Can even help with mid minutes and Cripps can go forward if needed.

I think we will address a number of little issues from the weekend and be much better. Walsh & Cerra will get better and both were very good.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:31 am 
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Brayshaw & Van Rooyen is a bigger lose than McKay & Martin

We can replace our two and work more on structure. Melbourne are struggling for quality forward entries and players that can kick goals. The Demons mids fall away after Petracca & Oliver. Viney is tough but not damaging. Brayshaw creates opportunites


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:34 am 
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I like Kennedy for Martin in isolation, my only concern is if we also bring in JSOS for H then that's two blokes in the forward line that haven't played AFL for months and who lack pace. So I'd lean towards going smaller and including just one of them, preferably the one who's better in the air, and Ithinkthat may be Kennedy. I want Pitto in the team to be a big meanie to Maxie, so we don't need JSOS's rucking. He'd be the unlucky one in my book.

Out: McKay Martin
In: Kennedy Motlop
Sub: Dow

I also think Hollands is a good fit for this game but not sure who he'd replace. I don't want to even think about Acres being unfit.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:48 am 
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Cripps had 21 possessions (14 contested), 5 tackles and a huge captains goal. After being heavily tagged.

Not bad for a bloke who is hampered.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:06 am 
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GreatEx wrote:
I like Kennedy for Martin in isolation, my only concern is if we also bring in JSOS for H then that's two blokes in the forward line that haven't played AFL for months and who lack pace. So I'd lean towards going smaller and including just one of them, preferably the one who's better in the air, and Ithinkthat may be Kennedy. I want Pitto in the team to be a big meanie to Maxie, so we don't need JSOS's rucking. He'd be the unlucky one in my book.

Out: McKay Martin
In: Kennedy Motlop
Sub: Dow

I also think Hollands is a good fit for this game but not sure who he'd replace. I don't want to even think about Acres being unfit.



If Acres doesnt come up, and he hope he does, as he is quickly turning into an absolute steal with a 3rd round pick, then Hollands would come on.

Rest, i agree with though. Its actually a pretty good scenario for us.

Only thing is Melbourne, will be a small forward line ... does Boyd come in for Marchbank (who was great) or ??? Just think we might need to go smaller against these guys ... however, if the Dees keep going forward the way they did against the pies .. as many tall forwards as possible.

Dees to be a chance, need to lower their eyes, hit their targets and take their opportunities, especially with their smalls. But realistically you are talking about Fritsh to kick 2 or 3, Picket to kick 2 or 3 and their midfield to kick 4 or 5. I honestly cant see where they create enough real scoring opportunities. Forward entries is one thing, but real scoring opportunities is another.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:11 am 
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What negativity Bam Bam surely in a footy forum we have differences in opinion as to selection
No one was being negative
No one in here has bern negative surely we can have a debate about selection
No one denigrated players
I wasnt in favour of Marchbank playing as I thought motlop Hollands or Dow would have been better and have performed better over the season
Didnt mean I didnt want Marchbank to succeed and said that he played well after the game

So did many others just showed in my biew now have real competition for spots
No doubt there will be healthy debate this week about who should be selected

Lets not confuse constructive debate with negativity


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:12 am 
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Wouldn’t be surprised if Petracca is sore after that scary moment where it looked like he broke his leg.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:22 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
We have achieved our supporters goals thus far and next game is a free hit against a recent premier who we beat in last years preseason and haven’t feared them since. In fact they pinched it end of last year and we beat them just 3 weeks ago without Harry

Since our last game against them we have added Walsh and Cerra

Pitto smashed Gawn last game and I heard Goodwin wasnt happy with the physical violation of Gawn. That was Vossys instruction. This time it’s a Final. Pitto will do the same.

Harry will be out and SOS is the lead up CHF and mix it up with TDK deeper in forward line.

Bottom line. We have only lost Martin from team that last beat Dees and gained Cerra and Walsh.

I’m hoping Kennedy plays our marking HF rotating with Crippa.

I’d like Holland playing on the wing and expect Acres to play.

I will have a look during week who goes out.

I thought our bottom 6 were really good against Swans. Gov was one of those and he is important in our line up back or forward. Marchy gives us that flexibility.

I’m expecting Tom Mac and Grundy to be the KPFs. That’s good for us but Gov has to play tighter than last couple games

We can win this and prove we have Dees measure

We’ve plucked the duck, and next Friday..

Let’s exorcise these Demons


Martin is a big loss, and Cripps is only able to go at 75%.

We need our bottom six to continue to strep up.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:29 am 
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ScottSaunders2 wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
I like Kennedy for Martin in isolation, my only concern is if we also bring in JSOS for H then that's two blokes in the forward line that haven't played AFL for months and who lack pace. So I'd lean towards going smaller and including just one of them, preferably the one who's better in the air, and Ithinkthat may be Kennedy. I want Pitto in the team to be a big meanie to Maxie, so we don't need JSOS's rucking. He'd be the unlucky one in my book.

Out: McKay Martin
In: Kennedy Motlop
Sub: Dow

I also think Hollands is a good fit for this game but not sure who he'd replace. I don't want to even think about Acres being unfit.



If Acres doesnt come up, and he hope he does, as he is quickly turning into an absolute steal with a 3rd round pick, then Hollands would come on.

Rest, i agree with though. Its actually a pretty good scenario for us.

Only thing is Melbourne, will be a small forward line ... does Boyd come in for Marchbank (who was great) or ??? Just think we might need to go smaller against these guys ... however, if the Dees keep going forward the way they did against the pies .. as many tall forwards as possible.

Dees to be a chance, need to lower their eyes, hit their targets and take their opportunities, especially with their smalls. But realistically you are talking about Fritsh to kick 2 or 3, Picket to kick 2 or 3 and their midfield to kick 4 or 5. I honestly cant see where they create enough real scoring opportunities. Forward entries is one thing, but real scoring opportunities is another.


I’d always pick JSOS over Kennedy for a fwd position.

Out: Harry, Martin
In: JSOS, Motlop
Sub: Dow

If Acres doesn’t come up then bring Hollands in too.

Kennedy very unlucky not to be included, but we have an oversupply of big mids when all are fit, and Dow is the in form incumbent.

Emergencies: Hollands, Kennedy, Boyd, Fisher.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:30 am 
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Has anyone seen any sort of match report from the scratch match on the weekend?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:02 am 
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sinbagger wrote:
ScottSaunders2 wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
I like Kennedy for Martin in isolation, my only concern is if we also bring in JSOS for H then that's two blokes in the forward line that haven't played AFL for months and who lack pace. So I'd lean towards going smaller and including just one of them, preferably the one who's better in the air, and Ithinkthat may be Kennedy. I want Pitto in the team to be a big meanie to Maxie, so we don't need JSOS's rucking. He'd be the unlucky one in my book.

Out: McKay Martin
In: Kennedy Motlop
Sub: Dow

I also think Hollands is a good fit for this game but not sure who he'd replace. I don't want to even think about Acres being unfit.



If Acres doesnt come up, and he hope he does, as he is quickly turning into an absolute steal with a 3rd round pick, then Hollands would come on.

Rest, i agree with though. Its actually a pretty good scenario for us.

Only thing is Melbourne, will be a small forward line ... does Boyd come in for Marchbank (who was great) or ??? Just think we might need to go smaller against these guys ... however, if the Dees keep going forward the way they did against the pies .. as many tall forwards as possible.

Dees to be a chance, need to lower their eyes, hit their targets and take their opportunities, especially with their smalls. But realistically you are talking about Fritsh to kick 2 or 3, Picket to kick 2 or 3 and their midfield to kick 4 or 5. I honestly cant see where they create enough real scoring opportunities. Forward entries is one thing, but real scoring opportunities is another.


I’d always pick JSOS over Kennedy for a fwd position.

Out: Harry, Martin
In: JSOS, Motlop
Sub: Dow

If Acres doesn’t come up then bring Hollands in too.

Kennedy very unlucky not to be included, but we have an oversupply of big mids when all are fit, and Dow is the in form incumbent.

Emergencies: Hollands, Kennedy, Boyd, Fisher.


Motlop not ready in my opinion - didn’t have any impact at all friday


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:18 am 
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If Martin is out then;

In: JSoS, Kennedy
Out: McKay, Martin

Newman Weitering Marchbank
Cincotta Kemp Saad
Acres Cripps Docherty
Cuningham JSoS Fogarty
TdK Charlie Owies
Pittonet Cerra Walsh
Hewett Cottrell McGovern Motlop
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