Something we haven't discussed enough

Heavs · **Posted:** Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:51 am

I'm with Agro in the 'happy to be proven wrong' camp. I don't think he's quite got it but if he gets the gig I hope he proves us all wrong.

SurreyBlue · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:32 am **Posts:** 10640

GO RED.
I agree, make him Captain after Kouta.

PS. Play him at CHF also. :idea:

pj_canus · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:37 pm **Posts:** 161

Synbad wrote:

He started off fat.. hes been fat for the whole of his career.. he doesnt have a set position .. he isnt in the leadership group... been paid huge amounts for little return ... but he has put up his hand to say "Look at me!!!.. i wanna be captain!!!"

Gotta be kidding...!!!

Just before you tee-off at Lance again, a couple of questions for you:

a) What is Lance's current weight?
b) What is Lance's ideal playing weight?
c) How have you arrived at your answer to (b)?

keogh · **Joined:** Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:36 am **Posts:** 6471

I think Waite should be captain because Whitnall may struggle to get a game if Bower,Kennedy,Edwards,Hartlett develop.Where will you play him9Oh there is also Waite Fevola and Fish to contend for spots in the team as well.

Anyone who thinks Stevens should be Captain should have a good look at themselves.Stevens turned up to pre season fat,not captaincy material and he hates being tagged and he goes missing too easily .

TheGame · **Posted:** Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:41 pm

keogh wrote:

I think Waite should be captain because Whitnall may struggle to get a game if Bower,Kennedy,Edwards,Hartlett develop.Where will you play him9Oh there is also Waite Fevola and Fish to contend for spots in the team as well.

Anyone who thinks Stevens should be Captain should have a good look at themselves.Stevens turned up to pre season fat,not captaincy material and he hates being tagged and he goes missing too easily .

I don't think Lance has to worry about getting a game yet and if Stevens is fat then 95% of our population are obese.

CK95 · **Posted:** Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:58 pm

I'm not too fussed about the captaincy at this stage, just pleased he's at a good weight, training well & fired up for 06

Go Lance!

Blue Vain · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am **Posts:** 18078

Jarusa wrote:

Big Red's looking fantastic.................What's that thing on his nose?

Synbad · **Posted:** Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:11 pm

Mrs Caz wrote:

Quote:

"I have captained at every age group I've played at, so it's something I'd really like to do.

"It's not so much going to Denis (Pagan) and saying I want to be captain. It's more about getting myself right and showing what I can do in the leadership areas."

Good on him. He knows his faults, and all he has to do is address them. Hopefully this year will see it come together for him.

Go Red!

yeah hopefully.. lets cross our fingers shall we???

Future Carlton football club Captain....

If that happens we have hit rock bottom.....

Good to hear he woke up at 6.30 in the morning one day.... even if it was to see a horse... just checking out its form .... from close up....

Mickstar · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:40 pm **Posts:** 7478

Lance is a natural onfield leader.Just watch him marshall the troops and direct traffic.
I think it is natural progression that he takes the baton from Kouta.Lance would be a great Captain of our club.

Blues2005 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:50 pm **Posts:** 2123

Synbad wrote:

Mrs Caz wrote:

Quote:

"I have captained at every age group I've played at, so it's something I'd really like to do.

"It's not so much going to Denis (Pagan) and saying I want to be captain. It's more about getting myself right and showing what I can do in the leadership areas."

Good on him. He knows his faults, and all he has to do is address them. Hopefully this year will see it come together for him.

Go Red!

yeah hopefully.. lets cross our fingers shall we???

Future Carlton football club Captain....

If that happens we have hit rock bottom.....

Good to hear he woke up at 6.30 in the morning one day.... even if it was to see a horse... just checking out its form .... from close up....

OK Synbad name the long list of candidates that should be captain before Lance. I think if you watch Lance on the field he actually does display more leadership traits than probably any other player we currently have. I think that Lance could be a good captain for this club.

You're obviously still not over the fact that he is here and not only here, he is here to stay. How about you give him a chance?

Bookie · **Posted:** Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:12 pm

Lance looks very hungry in that picture :shock:

Someone better check on Carlton's Star

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Synbad · **Posted:** Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:03 pm

You make a kid leader and skip the Lance generation...

He has shown he cant captain a football side with his lack of discipline, professionalism and competiveness.

On the other hand he would be a sensational casting coup as Fred Flintstone if they ever turn that cartoon series onto a movie...

Horses for courses... even Lance knows that...

AGRO · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:51 am

Synbad wrote:

On the other hand he would be a sensational casting coup as Fred Flintstone if they ever turn that cartoon series onto a movie...

I thought that guy from "The Full Monty" Mark Addy had Fred down pat in "Flinstones Viva Rock Vegas" :wink:

Mrs Caz · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:23 am

None of our kids are ready to lead the team.

Lance may have struggled with the maturity to be disciplined with his weight and fitness in the past, but this year is a chance for him to change that.

If he achieves that, coupled with his consistent on-field leadership (one of the few who always shows this) I would be very happy to see him get a chance to captain the club next year.

Blue Vain · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am **Posts:** 18078

It shows how our standards have slipped.
If Lance played for Collingwood, the minute he walked in fat and unfit, Buckley would grab him by the scruff of the neck and let him know about it.
At Carlton, he's captaincy material.

camel · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:54 am

Synbad wrote:

You make a kid leader and skip the Lance generation...

I don't mind that theory, but I still reckon Lance deserves a bit of respect. Not unconditional, but he's here for the year at least, so let's wait until he's played a few games before getting the knife out. He's played almost 200 games for the Carlton Football Club. He's not perfect, but nor are we.

Mrs Caz · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:58 am

Blue Vain wrote:

It shows how our standards have slipped.
If Lance played for Collingwood, the minute he walked in fat and unfit, Buckley would grab him by the scruff of the neck and let him know about it.
At Carlton, he's captaincy material.

Surely that is more a condemnation of Kouta's style of leadership?

And our standards will have slipped if he is given the captaincy after failing to change his ways this year.

Ockham's Razor · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:27 pm **Posts:** 1689

Quote:

but I still reckon Lance deserves a bit of respect. Not unconditional, but he's here for the year at least, so let's wait until he's played a few games before getting the knife out. He's played almost 200 games for the Carlton Football Club. He's not perfect, but nor are we.

Settle down Camelboy, seeking respect for Lance from some of the more jaded on here is asking way too much :wink:

Elwood Blues1 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:10 am **Posts:** 4827

camelboy wrote:

Synbad wrote:

You make a kid leader and skip the Lance generation...

I don't mind that theory, but I still reckon Lance deserves a bit of respect. Not unconditional, but he's here for the year at least, so let's wait until he's played a few games before getting the knife out. He's played almost 200 games for the Carlton Football Club. He's not perfect, but nor are we.

When you are on 400K a year I want near perfect, or as perfect as Tredrae or as perfect as Brown etc.....you take the money then you take the reponsibility and have to wear the comparisons.
I dont expect perfection from Jordan Bannister, Callum Chambers etc and either does the club so they pay them accordingly.
We want a captain along the lines of Riccuito, Buckley....always well prepared and always delivering..thats perfection and thats what I would pay the big bucks for......Lance has had a good summer on the track but needs to deliver on the field and do it again next year and the year after..then he gets the respect ...

Blue Vain · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am **Posts:** 18078

Ockham's Razor wrote:

Settle down Camelboy, seeking respect for Lance from some of the more jaded on here is asking way too much :wink:

Is sarcasm the extent of your offerings?

Enlighten us, why does Lance deserve respect?

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