It depends on who you talk too.
Bitter Effendope fans, or Dodoro and coaches.

Badly missed.

Was rumoured to be loose and not good one on one (by some fans) which he proved wrong from the moment he came to came to carlton.

Yes he's been caught out loose at stoppages a couple times this year, but holy jesus he has saved the day for his team mates and his team ad nauseum.
Some want to recall the few stuff ups. Maybe coz there's a handful, and its easy.

He was named all Australian HB. Nuff said.

and are you for real in your last sentence cutting Saad?

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Easy boy, whoa. He meant let him run through the midfield from defence, not get rid of him.

But tbh I also wondered the same thing when I first read his post.

My response was going to be...can let him run as a FP, as a HF, as a wingman...as a footballer, Saads better than any of the FP's HF's HB's ... and he'd be good in the midfield mix too.

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luckily you guys know i'd never petition to cut saad free.

cut him loose and let him run.


i noticed he grabbed his hammy twice (that i saw) on sunday ... maybe that's what's preventing those swashbuckling runs of his, not so much the coaches knocking it on the head?

either way in 2022/23 we looked unreal with him running thru the middle linking up with the mids on give-and-go's and spearing his left foot into charlie leading up the ball. that shit it is impossible to defend, just need to take the game on and take risks. and our coaching this year strikes me as really risk adverse?

If loving the Lord is wrong, I don't wanna be right!

In other news:

I'm not mad at Kemp, I actually like him up forward. I'd back him in to slot the next match winner.

But Kennedy's miss on Sunday hurt my soul. He's usually Mr. Reliable. I'm also totally gay for him, which makes it even worse.



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not that there's anything wrong with that!

Nail on head

No need to play safe on their home ground.
Will bite us on the bum in the last by umpires.

Take them on and let it rip.

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that mark he clunked was a serious grab! he’s showing a lot and importantly started showing a bit more consistency playing 4 quaters in the VFL on the back straight.


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Carol was playing more in the middle (inside wing role?) than forward, which is what Ashton seemed to be playing. Might have beenDecided before the game. Durds was so good against WC that probably saved him and Owies had done just enough to stay on. Agree that Carol was doing alright. As good as Dow I reckon, and better than Stoker who was trying to contain (blanket) Cripps and barely got a disposal for himself will giving up a lot to Crippa (before Stoker was subbed off injured,ironic given that he was hanging off Cripps’s sholders for half the game).


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Carroll did play forward and mid. He played at FF, right in the square, at times.

Silly decision to play Durdin, and I don't think he squibbed anything. His shoulder was not working. ie no strength in it.

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Yep, Matthew Lloyd enjoyed running the super wide-angle shot from behind goal to highlighting how Saad went goal side of the pack and just stood their waiting for a handball out of the pack presumably. (from either side) And his man, the most dangerous Saints small forward in the game to that point, Higgins, went to the outside (towards the wing) and it was dished out to him as they’d been doing all game.

Lloyd has played that vision from countless other games, once it was Walsh who lost his man. Forget the others, good players — badly coached.

Here’s a novel idea for 2025. Make Hamill the Forwards coach and find a defender to coach defence.


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Agree, even Voss said publicly Moir isn’t set up for 4 quarters of AFL yet. In reserves he is patchy to say the least, but has X factor alright and has done more per miniute on ground than Fantasia this year. Having said that thought Fantasia played his best game for us against Saints. I know they say he does heaps off the ball, I’m just talking about what we see on the replay.l


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I reckon billings was milking it with the head toss forward… just my opinion, I’m no bio-mechanist. Collingwood got thuglife off much worse for a Grand Final appearence he never should have made.

Speaking of which, when St Kilda were on the fast break that lead to the Phillipou behind in the final quater, Wanganeen Milera was running at one of our defenders (looked like Saad on the reply but no-idea really) and our defender jumped to prevent a forward handball (which rarely works, players a too well practiced at that forward handball over) and 5 seconds later Wanganeen Milera was running past the receiver of his HB and streamed into our D70 with an easy pass to Phillipou.

I’m not saying we should risk life-long injury or acquired brain injury to opposition players, but if he’d ran at Milera instead of a standing jump and connected enough to slow him down or stop him we outnumbered the HB receiver and would have won the ball back.


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yeah you’re right, I did see him goal square. mid you even Acres goes goal square (forward) sometimes playing a true wing role.


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was it just coincidence that when our pressure and risk taking went up in the third quater we started winning free kicks and taking uncontested marks in the F50?

I guess the point is it takes a big toll on players doing that for 20 H&A games. And it’s hard to run out games giving up so much energy chasing down players you probably wont catch before they dispose of the ball.

Voss and CFC have every single player talking up the “if we bring the pressure and defensive mindset for four quarters we know we’re a good chance in any game”. So why is it so had to do it? What are oppositions doing that makes it impossible for us to sustain that mindset and action-set for 4 quaters week-in andWeek-out, whomever the 22 selected are, any decent player can run and tackle and man-up and zone-up when required if he/she sets their Mind To It.


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It's @#$%&! unbelievable, isn't it. The contortions they went through to "not spoil" the finals by denying Maynard his rightful place. He ended a man's career, possibly seriously compromised his future health! "But it was a football action"... then what the @#$%&! was Owies's tackle? What was Jones's?

"Would be a shame for Antivax to miss his finals chance after all this time"
"Would be a shame to ban DANGER!! he speaks so eloquently"
"Would be a shame for Big Tough Maynard not to bring his Big Tough Play to the finals"
"Meh, it's just Little Matthew Owies from (spit) Carlton, HANG HIM"

@#$%&! YOU

They owies us an apology for this.

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Can you please ban yourself for that

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