Bank the 4 points and hope that it somehow instills a little confidence around the place... that's about it

But let's not get carried away and to everyone's credit, Voss presser and others, I don't see a lot of that.
Some of WC's numbers yesterday were state league levels... witches hats... what's concerning is that they made us look like witches hats at times, and that's game plan.

Harry gets ko'd is not unheard of... his lack of awareness and physical presence leaves him prone... but should be back after the bye.

Absolutely shattered for Kemp...

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Thought Cottrell was good on the wing.

I'm sure Acres would have been bombing it into forward line or our on a full.

So happy for Cotts.

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I don't think we were rubbish with our F50 entry. If you didnt notice our eyes lowered to hit up targets you weren't watching the game, or listening to the commentry. Those misses from set shots dead infront were player skill errors. We should have kicked more set shots at goals by a couple to Charlie, Motlop, Fogarty, Kemp, Cripps, Williams, a couple from White, and Cottrell. We missed 10 easy shots at goal, and still kicked 17 goals. Our midfield played like demons.

Didnt you notice our midfield group who have been criticised for bombing combined to kick 6 goals (2 of Cripps were as KPF), and our much maligned small forwards kicked 6 goals. Thats a huge change to our fortunes and output...because we improved our composure going into the F50.

Given the list we have, I'm still bullish on parts of Vossys game plan.
I look at teams who have succeeded yet criticised for playing the same style, and the goals kicked against, and theres something to get excited about.

And again, we were robbed of seeing the two headed monster Charlie and Harry go to work. They looked good when Harry was onfield waxing with TDK.

If you can't see trees for wood, you can't see trees for wood.

A win is a win.

Eagles kicked 6 goals against us, Pies 8, Dogs 11, Hawks 12, and Tigers 13. Highest score against was 83 v Dogs. We gave that game away in the last 5 minutes after leading all day. 4 of the above are flag contenders. We are not that far off with Vossy's GP. Injuries aside, its been the lack of composure, sure hands and lowering our eyes that have cost us, Vossys game plan from what I see.

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Kick in play on.

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Yes. There were 14 kick outs and he was the designated kicker for his kicking ability, not his contested possessions, of which he had a surprising her of 3, which is 3 more than usual.

Gov's game was his best for 2 years imo.

Still doesn't have any credits left with me. I don't expect the same intent from him next week.

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I have to say Dodo, I can't agree with any of your post TBH. Harry was moving really well, waxing with TDK in a heavy rotation that augers well for the future, and Charlie looked like he's fitter by the week, and moving well. He looked like he was close to exploding, and aint too far away


How many times have you seen White play, other than the last 2 games?
He's a live wire and he usually kicks them from 45-50 in VFL ie he's a reliable kick.

Zero influence in the forward line? Didnt you see anything?

He kicked 3 behinds and 2 assists last week in a forwadline that was not working at all

He kicked 1 goal 1 with 2 assisted goals and one potential goal Motlop fkd up in the first when he called for it. All that was in the forwardline.

Now compare that output with the more seasoned small forwards you may prefer. White did more as a forward than combined small forwards output barring Durdin.

This may explain things. Where do you have White in the small forward pecking order?

White, Motlop, Fogarty, Evans, Durdin, Willams, Fantasia, Durdin Fantasia?

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Holy Moly That could be the season if its bad. The way he went down looked like he was shot, not kicked.

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BB
A win is a win
Durdin is our best small forward hopefully gets a good run
Carroll is a mark up on Cowan
Good reader of the game
Walsh is running into form

I like Voss’ presser
Wasn’t getting carried away
Terrible standard game
No wind to speak of

Cheers keogh

I didnt watch the game live, but on TV.

Not getting carried away, just discussing any obvious changes to method going into 50 this week compared to the bombing of past 4 rounds

It looked like we showed more care going into forward line, and the execution seemed to follow the lines of lowering the eyes and picking a target. I also noted the leads into space and honouring them.

It seemed different. Your thoughts on that entry?

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its been a frustrating start to the season, and there is simply no excuse for the tigers loss ... but .. and i hope im just not the positive supporter, but i feel like we have over corrected again and we are just trying to strike the balance once more.

The biggest issue last year, was our ability to defend ... and whilst its not perfect, we appear to better at is this year ... but with some terrible skill effeciency. If, and its a big if, we can get the skill effeciency up ... we arent miles off, infact, i think we are right in it, but with our start its going to make a for a tough year ...

12 goal win, is a 12 goal win. Could have, and perhaps should have been more ,, but i think if are playing poorly, and your percentage is still more than 100% ... you arent doing everything wrong ... you just need to tidy up a few things to turn it around ...

not getting carried away with the eagles win. it was as poor a game of football that i have seen in sometime, but importantly, we did what was expected, and that was to win, and win comfortable (what we should have done against the tigers)

p.s really liked the look of Carroll across the half back. Looks more composed than most already, and its only his first game. Also with white, i think he will settle in okay. He just needed to get his first to settle the nerves. Not everyone, infact, more dont have ice in the veins, and can execute from the very outset. Plenty to work with IMO.

Sure, that explains the number of kicks. But the contention was that he displayed awful skills, turned it over and slaughtered the ball on many occasions. The numbers show that he turned the ball over once all game and took many long kicks - not the cowardly back pocket chip - that were rated as effective. Furthermore, we have made kicking in from behinds look very difficult for several years, and have racked up plenty of turnovers and ineffective possessions that way. So, the remarks I responded to were horse shit. Thank you for your attention on this matter.

Right on GE

His 17 turnovers over last 4 games costing 7 goals was things nightmares are made of.

He improved on the turnovers, for sure. And, some of those 40 metre low passes were picture perfect on TV.

You can only beat what's infront of you, but I can't help fear old Gov is back against a better team, where the footsteps are closer than they were yesterday.

keogh posted Haynes didnt have an opponent. Gov looked the same. he had heaps of space. Did we have 2 losse defenders in Gov and Haynes???

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When you look at it GWS beat them by 81 on their home deck . We beat them by 71 on a ground that we are not particularly good at.

A bloke cuts is finger nails and Curnow has 3
And a bloke with 1st goal yips could of had 3 or 4

There is no doubt that as bad as it looked at times our performance against them was superior to GWS the week previously

Watching all the games this round every team is turning it over and making costly mistakes by missing targets by foot and handballs from 3 feet away. It seems a pattern that has developed in recent times with teams trying to get speed on the ball. It leads to ugly turn overs and not attractive football.



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True that - but the question remains for Mr Mitch “Conditional” McGovern why can’t you bring that level of effort all the time - especially your tackle on Waterman - can’t go through your football life “picking and choosing” when to go.

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Definitely improved entries into the 50
Cotttrell is an improvement on Acres
I would keep Acres out
Bu again it helps when there is minimal pressure from the opposition

Gov spent a lot of time on Waterman

Carroll looked like he belonged but I’m not sure Carroll is a mark up on Cowan.

carroll is more of a newman replacement (and an upgrade over boyd, imo), than he is a cowan replacement. the kid could quarterback the backline ball movement for us, while cowan is a more a man-on defender.

in saying that, cowan has been so poor and out of form... carroll showed enough to replace cowan and his role, too.

Word up.

Word perfect.

Completely agree on all points: different players, different roles, Cowan was out of form, but worth backing.

I'd like both of them in our backline. I think they complement each other.

Similarities: both 20yo's and both childhood Baggers, both have suffered injury (don't focus on that too much Sydney Blue) and both can kick well, when Cowan doesnt bomb it blindly which has become a common behaviour this year.

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