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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 5:51 pm 
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So to sum up................Dodo wants to sack Wright before he starts. :eek: :eek: :eek:

It's going well.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 6:19 pm 
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Dodo is stuck in 1995 and thinks the players should still run the club


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 6:26 pm 
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I'm not a fan of Voss BUT this endorsement from GW is the first of many statements to this weak, soft and mentally fragile playing group that the free rides are over. This is the first time in my life as a Carlton supporter that we are finally backing a coach over the playing group.
Now what I can see happening is most if not all Assistant coaches being moved on and a new lot coming in and we will headhunt someone to be our tactical guru and allow Voss to move more into a man-manager role.


Hoping this is the case deano.

I’m all for whatever will make us perennial contenders. I’m unconvinced Voss is THE guy but will await what other changes are made.

Would love to know the full basis for the recommendation as so much of our onfield performance has been so sub par for a long time.

So can we now expect TDK and JSOS to resign with us :razz:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 6:37 pm 
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Gotta love all the "ITK's" on Bigfooty. :lol: :lol:
Good but not unexpected news.


Tell you what - there are going to be some very nervous people who leaked some very specific information, almost as if it was given to them deliberately.

All Christmas barbecues are cancelled.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 7:29 pm 
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Dodo27 wrote:
This is a Coach whom in 4 years, we still trying to figure out what his Game Plan is....

This is a Coach whom in 4 Years, does not have a Plan B

This is a Coach who embarrasingly took us to a final by pure Luck only to be 60-0 Against their Opponent

This is a Coach that Most Senior players have Stopped Playing for except for the Captain because he gets to bully & control all other players and refuses to give others a go in the middle.

This is a Coach that has built a Game based on Winning the hard ball which we still do, even this year, BUT nothing else after it.

This is a Coach that Treated Matt Kenedy like a Scum, and look how Kennedy thrived at the Dogs when given an opportunity to play full time in the Middle. Did The Bont or other Senior players refuse to give Kennedy a go? BUT No, at Carlton we tell him there is no space for him in the middle because Krippa has to get Brownlow Votes for Self-Glory....

This is a Coach that begins the Season with an almost Full team, yet loses to a buttom side after being 41 points UP....
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You can make all excuses for VOSS and say he is a good Coach, injuries bla bla bla, BUT you are forgetting one Crucial Fact: Most Players have checked out already. They are not putting in the minimum effort. They are not playing for their Coach. They are not interested....For Voss to remain, it means You must move on at least 8-10 Senior players.... Its madness.


And YET Carlton Fans on Talking Carlton are all happy with the Decision, those same Fans who were Crying out for his head.....


I have said it and will say it again, we are the Most Pathetic Club of any Sporting organisation to ever exist on this planet :hitcomputer:


This is a post saying go away, you have no idea!!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 7:33 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Gone. :razz:


Drewgirl wrote:
Strong rumour is Hayden Skipworth. What do we think?


Geez, just goes to show, *anyone* can get it wrong. I thought he was already packing up his desk reading these.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 7:46 pm 
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Rod Spooky Galt wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Gone. :razz:


Drewgirl wrote:
Strong rumour is Hayden Skipworth. What do we think?


Geez, just goes to show, *anyone* can get it wrong. I thought he was already packing up his desk reading these.


I'm with Dodo. The vitriol thrown towards him, is uncalled for.
IMO Voss should have been shown the door - but my bet - the players will now flow out. That is sad IMO.
So, let's see who is wrong or right in the long term. The club has made its decision - let's hope it's right one or is it the easy one?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 8:01 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Rod Spooky Galt wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Gone. :razz:


Drewgirl wrote:
Strong rumour is Hayden Skipworth. What do we think?


Geez, just goes to show, *anyone* can get it wrong. I thought he was already packing up his desk reading these.


I'm with Dodo. The vitriol thrown towards him, is uncalled for.
IMO Voss should have been shown the door - but my bet - the players will now flow out. That is sad IMO.
So, let's see who is wrong or right in the long term. The club has made its decision - let's hope it's right one or is it the easy one?


Vitriol?
:confused: :confused: :confused:

Abit dramatic SB.

Wright has been there long enough to get a handle on things. His CV is as good as any going around. who gets the benefit of the doubt? Wright in the inner sanctum or all the couch warriors on the internet.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 8:10 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
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What is evident is that we need to reset the culture / mentality through the football department.
Lloyd and Voss have failed and to an extent Williams.
Before we make changes to the playing group, we need to start with these changes and work our way down.
Get the right coach, who builds standards and a football manager who doesn’t accept failure and then start to align with the leadership and list.
If players don’t understand this or aren’t willing to align with these changes, then they can go now, but this is what needs to be actioned ASAP.

If you think a 'reset' of the football department is going to increase the speed, foot skills and IQ of the players, I want what you are on.
Our list is 1 dimensional and coincidentally so is our game plan.
Voss has tried to implement a faster more current plan but the players can NOT execute it, this is why they burn out after 1.5 quarters.

IMO the whole club failed when they thought our list was top 4 last year and we largely only added kids.
That is why we are where we are, sacking the coach is just a band aid approach.
The biggest issue with the playing group mentality is some players have had 3 coaches now and they know it's the coach before them.
A new coach will only continue this entitlement they have as a group and the next coach will be desperate to keep them happy also and then we are back at the start again.
If you want to send the playing group a message, it is the coach stays and you go if you don't step it up.
Time for a different approach from the last 20 years.


Maybe just give me what you’re taking and we can agree that you and I are on different wave length. Let’s see what the ‘experts’ do.

Well that didn't take long.
Looks like the experts are on the same thing I'm on, reality, logic and common sense.
Great decision by Wright and the club, now it's time to make changes to the list.
I'm actually starting to look forward to the trade period to see what we do.
I hope there are a few players on notice already.
Time to back the club SB, this is the most sensible approach and is a good step forward.
Let's go Blues!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 8:34 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
Dodo is stuck in 1995 and thinks the players should still run the club

Sounds that way.
I think a fair chunk of our supporter base just got too used to the coaching revolving door that it became more comfortable than facing the reality of our list.
At least Wright sees there are other areas that need addressing first.
This is a good mature step for the club, the dog is now wagging the tail.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 8:36 pm 
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Rod Spooky Galt wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Gone. :razz:


Drewgirl wrote:
Strong rumour is Hayden Skipworth. What do we think?


Geez, just goes to show, *anyone* can get it wrong. I thought he was already packing up his desk reading these.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 8:41 pm 
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Well it looks like they've chosen the coach above the players?

Then the next logical step would be to extend his contract... they either have faith in him or they don't... let him rebuild the list.
Restructure the coaching group... give him all the support he needs.

If we see bombs-R-us game plan next season and he gets sakced... well that's clown world... in fact, that's Carlton.

Good luck to him... Go Blues

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 8:55 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
Dodo is stuck in 1995 and thinks the players should still run the club

What he said, most of it right. That is what this group has been complaining about all year.

Still, Wright is in the inner sanctum so will give the benefit. Might be just a bad year. Soon see.

We might know more the next 2 weeks. They'll either be a response, all good. Let's hope. If we get pumped by a huge margin.a few tunes might change.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 9:03 pm 
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When did I ever say the Club is being run by the Players? I wish the club is being run by players the same way the 1995 players did... They got us a Flag you Clowns.

I stated a FACT: Many Senior Players have already checked out. Even before the start of the Season. They can not play under Voss because they can't understand his Game plan nor can they understand what he wants them to do!

So now that Voss is staying, what is the abvious? Many of those Players will walk out. They won't Stay. You will say, GREAT let them walk out, no player is bigger than the Club, but where does that leaves us?


It simply means that in 2026, we will most likely finish buttom 3 and will be looking at a Fresh rebuild which we have already been through Millions of times without any success.

Is Voss going to be the Man to lead us past 2026? of course not. The Board will not re-new his contract and they will start the whole Bull*** again. New coach, new Re-build and another 5 years of Pain & agony from the supporters wanting success.


2026 will be another Wasted year. be prepared.... VOSS won't take us anywhere!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 9:13 pm 
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Dodo27 wrote:
When did I ever say the Club is being run by the Players? I wish the club is being run by players the same way the 1995 players did... They got us a Flag you Clowns. And yet we have failed and failed again since, we have also changed coaches again and again to no avail, coincidence?

I stated a FACT: Many Senior Players have already checked out. Even before the start of the Season. They can not play under Voss because they can't understand his Game plan nor can they understand what he wants them to do! Is this your opinion or did you hear it from the players, because I am pretty sure Wright would have talked to the players and if they had of 'checked out' then I doubt Voss would be coaching in 2026.

So now that Voss is staying, what is the abvious? Many of those Players will walk out. They won't Stay. You will say, GREAT let them walk out, no player is bigger than the Club, but where does that leaves us?As per above I think Wright has a good handle on the players. Plus I think you need to get a better read on our list, we have a distinct top 6 group and I doubt all or any (except TDK) will leave as they are mostly contracted. The rest are replaceable and the kids are going nowhere.

It simply means that in 2026, we will most likely finish buttom 3 and will be looking at a Fresh rebuild which we have already been through Millions of times without any success. Only if we go down the path of multiple trades for draft picks as has been suggested, only by supporters.

Is Voss going to be the Man to lead us past 2026? of course not. The Board will not re-new his contract and they will start the whole Bull*** again. New coach, new Re-build and another 5 years of Pain & agony from the supporters wanting success. Well that will depend on the list management at the end of the year and what direction the club has decided to go in.


2026 will be another Wasted year. be prepared.... VOSS won't take us anywhere!
I'm looking forward to it, actually I am excited for the trade period first and foremost.

Go the Blues!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 9:19 pm 
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kezza wrote:
This from one of the more knowledgeable posters on BF;
Austin and the list management team all safe too.
New assistants all round for Voss in 2026.

Austin... it's all his fault, I'm told.

Can't blame the fitness dude, he's gone... someone else must pay this year.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 9:22 pm 
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Hornet wrote:
kezza wrote:
This from one of the more knowledgeable posters on BF;
Austin and the list management team all safe too.
New assistants all round for Voss in 2026.

Austin... it's all his fault, I'm told.

Can't blame the fitness dude, he's gone... someone else must pay this year.

I don't think anyone needs to pay.
This is part of the club maturing, we need to make some changes and tweak the list.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 9:28 pm 
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Sidefx wrote:
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When did I ever say the Club is being run by the Players? I wish the club is being run by players the same way the 1995 players did... They got us a Flag you Clowns. And yet we have failed and failed again since, we have also changed coaches again and again to no avail, coincidence?

I stated a FACT: Many Senior Players have already checked out. Even before the start of the Season. They can not play under Voss because they can't understand his Game plan nor can they understand what he wants them to do! Is this your opinion or did you hear it from the players, because I am pretty sure Wright would have talked to the players and if they had of 'checked out' then I doubt Voss would be coaching in 2026.

So now that Voss is staying, what is the abvious? Many of those Players will walk out. They won't Stay. You will say, GREAT let them walk out, no player is bigger than the Club, but where does that leaves us?As per above I think Wright has a good handle on the players. Plus I think you need to get a better read on our list, we have a distinct top 6 group and I doubt all or any (except TDK) will leave as they are mostly contracted. The rest are replaceable and the kids are going nowhere.

It simply means that in 2026, we will most likely finish buttom 3 and will be looking at a Fresh rebuild which we have already been through Millions of times without any success. Only if we go down the path of multiple trades for draft picks as has been suggested, only by supporters.

Is Voss going to be the Man to lead us past 2026? of course not. The Board will not re-new his contract and they will start the whole Bull*** again. New coach, new Re-build and another 5 years of Pain & agony from the supporters wanting success. Well that will depend on the list management at the end of the year and what direction the club has decided to go in.


2026 will be another Wasted year. be prepared.... VOSS won't take us anywhere!
I'm looking forward to it, actually I am excited for the trade period first and foremost.

Go the Blues!


Well then based on your Analysis, we will lose 1 or 2 Senior players whilst the rest will just magically start performing and in 2026, we are due to finish top 6.

I just can't see it happening with this group of Players. We are entering a new phase of a Rebuild and VOSS is not going to be the man to take us through it. Our young players need 3-4 years to develop properly and there is no assurance they will come good.

You see players that won't run, won't tackle, won't put in an effort and your asking me if I talked to them to know if they have checked out? Come on Man... isn't it so abvious?

Anyways, I respect your opinion and we all want success, I just can't see it happening under Voss, unless he is moved on OR a dozen Senior players are moved on. Let's see what happens end of year!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 9:30 pm 
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Hornet wrote:
kezza wrote:
This from one of the more knowledgeable posters on BF;
Austin and the list management team all safe too.
New assistants all round for Voss in 2026.

Austin... it's all his fault, I'm told.

Can't blame the fitness dude, he's gone... someone else must pay this year.


Players. Sack them all and start again. They just can't play AFL .... until they get elsewhere. :grin:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 9:35 pm 
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Sidefx wrote:
Hornet wrote:
kezza wrote:
This from one of the more knowledgeable posters on BF;
Austin and the list management team all safe too.
New assistants all round for Voss in 2026.

Austin... it's all his fault, I'm told.

Can't blame the fitness dude, he's gone... someone else must pay this year.

I don't think anyone needs to pay.
This is part of the club maturing, we need to make some changes and tweak the list.

But the guy that's tasked with recruitment keeps picking players that can't kick... how can we trust him again?

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