I just checked his AFL tables and the good news is that his goal kicking accuracy is perfect: 7 goals, 0 behinds. In fact, he's only had 16 kicks in his career (8 games) so he must be setting some kind of efficiency world record!

Max G: 99.60 in 42 VFL games.

Liam Mc: 87.39 in 40 VFL (Carlton) games.

Some might remember, it was Max who stopped to scoop up a completely gassed Lewis Hayes in the 2km time trial at that year’s combine.

And, if you remember that, you would also recall that he went into that draft as a defender.

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Is he slow enough for our game plan?

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Can anyone name anything Nick Austin has done that has been a win? Either trade or draft?

George Hewett is the standout.

Other than that? I like Cowan I guess.

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He’s orchestrated De Koning’s departure, so he gets a lifetime pass from me.

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Wait until the price is finalised. Then judge!

Just out of interest, why do you hate TDK so much? Not saying you are right or wrong in wanting his departure, just genuinely curious about the origin of it


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To be honest, it was the undeserved adulation that set me right off. He’d done nothing to warrant the cum-fest and I could see where it was going to end up.

The best player in the comp was at his feet, but he was always taking the easy option in the contest and that made him easy to beat. Back shoulder, try and jump over. He kept giving ground to find separation. Never once tried to win it.

He played some good footy, in patches, over the last couple of years. But, his opposite number was always in the game. They’re stronger, better athletes & more damaging footballers.

Some of you still think he just needs more time.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

Got 3 very good years from Saad (2022 All Australian)
Moir should be a player
Lord a good mid-season selection
Carroll looking likely
Jury out on Wilson
Unlucky with Jagga and time will tell whether it was a win or not.
I don't mind Austin but think SOS had too many "misses" e.g. from the draft SPS, Dow, O'Brien, Setterfield, Stocker, Kemp and giving up too much for McGovern and Marchbank.

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Be interesting to see what we do with small forwards in light of Frankie's late season form. Other than Motlop, they've all showed a bit at different stages. But none of them can be counted upon to contribute regularly.

Sounds simple, but I think the ones with contracts will survive, the ones without won’t.

There’s a 45th spot on offer with O’Farrell being LTI. Evans, Young & White will get their chance to win it.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

How many of our veterans have played on for $350k per year?

Pendles and Sidey both earning less than $500k this year and Pendles playing on next year.

That’s list management.

We can argue game plans and coaching and attitude all we like but this is the number one issue at the club for years and I’d suggest if we had a payment structure like the Pies we’d also have less issues with attitude within the playing list.

Get stuck in GW.

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36 & 38yo.

Bit of perspective, G…

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

I thought Howe was supposed to be one of the disgruntled mob that wanted to get paid, along with Elliott Mihocek Cameron...? What's being passed under the table, hmm?

Maybe they are going cold on JSOS or he is going cold on them.

And still playing a useful role on minimal coin.

Imagine having one let alone two guys of that quality and experience playing for the price of an average third year kid.

That’s list management.

Don’t think Braddles was on third year wages in 2002 at almost 39.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

Agree Pies and several other club have a great culture, team elements that allow such diligent list management. There are multifaceted reasons for all our woes. These have evolved over the last 3 decades it will take an operator with integrity , determination to do what’s best for the club and gradually begin reshaping our path forward positively, we’re a mighty long way back to a modern football operation. Let’s hope Graham Wright is the one

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Why is it always one person, new to the club who will be the one?
One player, one coach, one administrator, one board member...... can we move on. There is no ONE, it takes a whole club approach with its many moving parts and intricacies which encompasses dealing with different personalities.

The two oldest blokes on our list would be on similar money - and they’re three-four contracts behind Pendlebury and Howe.

Haynes will be 34yo next year. Newman will be 33. Saad, Williams & McGovern will be 32yo by season’s end next year. Awful, AWFUL recruiting (for all the reasons we’re only too well aware of) through the early 2010s meant we had to buy experience in the early 2020s.

The 2014 class will be 30yo next year. Of the twelve blokes on our list that would (if they survive) fit that profile, we drafted just one.

The filth will only have five more in that category (again, if they survive) & they drafted six (eight if you include Cox & Mihocek). It’s not so long ago, that group nearly broke the club.

Shit club, shit development, shit players, shit happened. That’s just the way it is. We can’t wave a magic wand to make a dozen 200 gamers appear.

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Coz it starts at the top and filters down . Someone has to set the tone . President and CEO , and it flows down from there .

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