What gives me hope is at the start of the season we had a version of the game plan that the top 8 teams were using on top of our contested style of football and when we were on it was insane.

What else makes me hopeful is the club has come out and said they are addressing the issue of speed, foot skills and the mid age bracket depth.

GW is a great addition and Chris Davies is as well, they seem to both have that take no prisoners attitude.

A lot to look forward to with the refresh.

Brad Lloyd put the Vossy haters assertions/ lies to bed.







A recent delisted player said that Vossy was loved by all the players. That Vossy has earned respect of all the players and doesn't play favourites as some posters suggested during the year. He couldn't believe there were rumours like Walshy was leaving if Vossy remained coach, and Vossy is reason why Curnow wants out.

Apart from the recent players view I believe Brad Lloyd would know better than any poster on footy forumes.

Vossy isnt taking passenegers this year. He's planning for a successful year for Carlton, with or without Curnow.

A break from the purge of injury, the recruitment of some speed (Chesser, Ainsworth and possibly Florent), and the return of Newman, Kemp, and the speedy Cottrell Kemp and Smith, and a fit Harry, Walsh, Cowan and O'Keefe playing, and we should be playing Finals in 2026.

We won every game when we had 8 or less on our injury list in 2025. We beat Cats with 5 out injured, and playing Charlie and Harry unfit, and SOS got injured during the game. Hollands wasn't fit, but he had a good game vs Cats.

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It's often difficult to tell how much truth is being revealed when a club person is interviewed, but as a recently departed staffer, and I guess a sakced staffer, Brad Lloyd had a pretty good opportunity to tip a bucket of shit all over the club.

Either he's protecting his reputation in the industry, or he's telling the truth (both of these can also be true).

I'm also optimistic about what is possible next season. One thing we will have going for us is that we will be underdogs riding a wave of @#$%&! all expectation.

We seem to go okay in such instances, it's the consistently performing while managing expectation we're yet to master.

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Unless I missed it, I have never seen any real proof there has been any falling out between Vossy and Charlie. Vossy is very bullish that he stays, so I don't think there is animosity.

If he does stay, I have no doubt they will be fine.

TC is the classic example of the supporters getting bent out of shape. All will be remedied when the two do a group hug for the Carlton Media.

Just remember, the AFL media is not your friend. None have been willing to print anything about any alleged 'rift' because I presume they don't have anything.

Regards Cazzesman

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Maybe the fallout is because Voss said he has to stay and the club are backing Voss?

That being the case Cazz , what is it that is actually bugging Charles to the point he wants out ? I'm mystified .

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Let me guess?

Frustrated with his body and his 2026 output?
Wants to change his fortunes?

He's an unsophisticated country boy. Playing with a big club, in a big footy city, well, he's in a big bubble.
Maybe he wants out? Can't handle the scrutiny after his body or form fails him?

Surfing would really help his head. I have no doubt.
Sydney water temperature in Winter is same as the top temp in Bass straight in summer.
Maybe that is better than Geelong, for his head?

Can lay it on the coach all one wants, but the evidence for Charlies wierdness doesn't point to the coach.
Simple as that, unless you want to read into it, then believe the suspicious story.

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Suspicious story ? I don't know any suspicious story Bondi . I haven't heard any story . I truely have not heard from anyone why he actually wants out . It is a complete mystery to me . The warmer water in Sydney would definitely appeal .

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He's a professional footballer. He's not a surfer. He has 4 years on his contract to complete. Football gives him money to enjoy a rock star lifestyle. Without it he would have nothing. Go surfing on your holidays or when you're retired, but don't use it as an excuse not to fulfil your football contract.

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Hard to argue with that, been thinking the same thing about him

Is it too much to ask that we have a bunch of overcompetitive hard nosed bastards on the list, obsessed with winning footy games. That's really all I want them to be

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Yeah, all this Melbourne bubble and surfing to help his head sounds like a massive load of shit really

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CC isn’t interested in doing football full time. He needs down time for surfing, his wellness business etc. He should be paid casual rates as a player as he is only interested in part time. Not a professional footballer.

I think that Charles has interests outside of footy is a good thing particularly having business interests . Setting himself up for life after football . Good on you Charlie . How many footballers have pissed it up against a wall and left themselves with SFA . Maybe Charles aint the airhead people make him out to be . Carlton in business , get to work , steer him in the right direction . I think Charles and our Club is an easy fix .

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Not turning up for rehab isn’t something you want in a professional athlete. Interests outside of football is brilliant but the interest can’t and shouldn’t be greater than your core business which is a football player.

I'm not sure if Charlie is the business shark you alude too.

I dont think most players have been paid anywhere near what Charlie has received, and maybe Charlie has already wasted the half others would have.

He's got a pocket full of cash from Front Loading, and now he wants more for his consultants to steer in the right direction for him. That's his Manager.

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Business shark ? don't know where you get that from .

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Don't worry, definitely not suggesting its from your quote Mick.

Just being silly

I really think Charlie is as dumb as dog shit.

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Yeah . Its funny really if you can imagine Charlie cutting multi million dollar mega business deals . Don't mind me Bondi , I get a bit jumpy this time of year . We have been dudded too many times . By the way ,you happy how its going 'ol mate ?

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I've been happy since I heard the crap in the clubroom that derailed our season (injury didnt help), was identified and going to be addressed. I didn't think we would hold on to TDK, and wanted to get rid of a few more injury prone players (SOS and Curnow), in the hope of finding a bonafide left field CHB and CHF to replace them. Still can if we can snag one as an SSP pick and another as a rookie. Bumbers looking at Philips.

I thought Austin said this was going to be his last year before the season started,. Regardless, I heard Austin had his feelers out nice and early in the year, and was going for a BIG fish or TWO, such was the space in the salary cap (I know peeps dont believe that, but the numbers don't lie, and see SOS, banking is real), and I liked his commitment to address speed skills and depth issue from all the names I heard he had spoken with before Finals started. I know Petrocelle was one, but we were also keen to address depth too. We had too many kids, and still do imo.

I will share a few others after the draft...well...there was word that Dees and Tigers were keen on Cerra for a first rounder. Tiges had 2 beauties and were looking at splitting one, and Dees were going to shop around a coupla players (had no idea it was both mids and May), and Butters was the big fish. Austin fishing for firsts, and the chance to trade in Charlie was a god send. However, despite having another shot at Butters next year, I think we can cover him with a rebuilt Walsh and Jagga, and Humphrey, Florent and Ainsworth running through the middle gives us great variety and depth in the midfield mix. Add them to Cerra, Hewett and Crippa, and away we go. Who knows, they may have leading forwards to kick to in 2026, and we snag a Flag.

I'm expecting a good catch to be announced later in the day too. Our forward line and kicking into the forward line has been addressed in this Trade period.

I'm hoping we keep Lij and if we can, Gov, and find a new home for Acres, if so, we let go 3 of Fog, Binns, White, Young.

This has been an Epic Draft for Austin. Like Sydney Blue, I was critical of his last draft by not replacing the experience we lost in 203 and 2024. I wasn't scathing, but disappointed. He is a patient man and he makes true that one swallow doesn't make a summer. He plays the long game.

Are you happy with the Trades thus far?

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