According to his draft profile, defensive work and contested work, McLovin still gets games.
I'm sure he's been pushed out because of JSOS. though.

Some of the VFL regulars might have more info.

10 game suspension in his draft year for getting on the gas with the boys.

Not the end of the world, but you’d have to lean on Cowan for the inside scoop. Wouldn’t be too concerned with getting delisted by Aints. Anyone near Jack on the depth chart is on borrowed time.

If I’m him, I’d pack it in & head to the States. Can absolutely hammer a barrel.

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Crusader I saw a recent Article on ex Carlton lad Billy Gowers. He's in the USA as a kicker. Currently the #1 rated kicker in College football at age 30

He is now a barber by trade and is giving all his college roomies haircuts

Here is a different article

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/billy ... c-19796843

Regards Cazzesman

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Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

He was in trouble for something else in his draft year - can remember if it was suggestions of some sort of Bruhn/Silvagni areas or maybe something about mocking a disabled girl at his school.

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Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

RIP Charlie Kirk (was/were)

'Not good at defending, but a good kick' is giving Matthew Watson vibes...

Shoenmaker looks a great kick, but what’s he like defending one-on-one? I also get a bit of a Matthew Watson vibe about him.

Plus there’s this - https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/mystery- ... c-13427729

Behavioural and professional standards red flags raised in that article.

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None of TDK, JSOS and Charlie were key players in the 23 finals series. Pittonet was more important than TDK in the finals. They were all handy during the H&A period (especially Charlie) but they weren't taking us to the next level due to their impact on player culture. Harry can fill Charlie's spot nicely, it was nice having two Coleman medalists for insurance but we didn't need two. HOK can fill TDK's role.

The players coming will hopefully help change the culture, as will the ones going out, this is what will win us finals, and this is what wins Geelong finals. A champion team will always beat a team of champions.

I still think we should have wrung more out of the swans for Charlie though.

NIL has created a few strange ones.

Not that boosters are climbing over each other to pay a punter, but the schools will still find a scholarship for anyone willing to support themselves.

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Exclusive

REVEALED: Roos made bold late play for superstar forward

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1442441/rev ... lie-curnow

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Such a sliding doors moment

Jeez imagine if he landed at Norf instead. The lols.

Well they're about 2kms closer to Port Melbourne beach...

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Turkish Proverb

I keep going back to the drawing board to find ways to cover the loss in height in key areas in 2026:

DEFENCE

KPD
Weitering
Young

Intercept or 3rd tall
Haynes
McGovern
Kemp
Dean

FORWARD

KPF
McKay
O'Keefe

3rd Tall

Moir
Kemp

We need ONE KPD in 2026

I have an inkling Dean will grow another cm or two and will become a great Full Back, but he's still a young man with a developing body, and nowhere near holding KPD in 2026, and doubt he will in 2027. He could however become the 3rd tall if Harnes can take CHB. Haynes and Gov are too short for CHB, hence strogly believe we need to find one, or Young it is. I have no problem with Young. I accept his limitations but am grateful what he does bring against the tall KPF's which is where others on our list fall short (boom boom). But if one of Weitering or Young are injured, we will be too short in defence.

Philps? Effendopes are looking at him, and have a rookie pick ahead of us. He looked great last year in the VFL. Surprised me TBH, but I still fill we need better than Philips, and I'm sure there is. I would be happy with Philps if we can't find a better choice, or, if Effendopes take him as a rookie.

HOK helps a lot, but he wont be playing till 2027, and opens up a spot as an LTI for the SSP or MSD. I'd rather leave his spot open for MSD to select a form player.

We need ONE KPF in 2026

O'Keefe is only 20yo. A bit young for a tall player (See Harry at 20yo) But he presented well as a KPF last year. Reidy is the unknown but seems to have similar qualities as HOK. I do want Reidy and O'Keefe to be the 2 rucks. If that happens, I expect at times, one will be rested on the bench, lwaving Harry on his own.

I'm grateful to have Kemp, but I'm not a fan, and he's coming back from a serious achilles injury. Will he finally have a breakthrough year? I doubt it, but players do. Moir showd his class last year, and he may surprise us all this year, if he can improve his running fitness. These 2 are 3rd talls, not KPF nor KPD's imo.

We come unstuck if Harry is out injured. He's susceptible to concussion. That's the only reason why I would have picked Charlie ahead of Harry. That's not an option anymore.

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Powerful stuff.

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So 34 Primary (incl Gov and E Hollands)
7 Rookie (incl Will White)
2 Cat B

So we def need to drop one from primary and one from Rookie. Can't see Will White getting a game ahead of Hayward, Ainsworth, Motlop or Moir. Feel like we need defensive depth so maybe Gov survives and EH is delisted

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[b]OPERATION KPD and KPF as a priority.[/b]

SOS looked OK at CHB, but his lack of pace would be found out. Nevertheless we need a replacement for CHB, because we have not replaced Liam Jones, Caleb Marchbank, Steve Durdin. Its about time. Ditto losing Curnow, we need a bonafide KPF ( one who chases, tackles, marks and highly competitive (all those things Charlie felt he didnt need because he was so good ) eg Mihocek

DELIST 4. RELEGATE one to ROOKIE List, and find us a KPF and a KPD!!!

Assuming we Draft a good kid with pick 9 and use pick 11 on Dean, and latter picks for Ison, we will need to open up 2 spots on the Primary list for those 3 draftees.

I would want at least one Primary List spot, and one rookie spot to be saved for a train on players to fill the KPD & KPF depth/ spot, therefore:

3 of the following have to be delisted from Promary List Gov, Lij, Binns and Fogarty. Gov is not a KPD, but can fill the 3rd tall if Haynes goes CHB, but, having seen Gov play in preservation mode last year, I guess that's why he was discarded from the backline and played forward last year: 3rd forward. His best is behind him and his body is not reliable. Playing Russian Roulette to retain him imo.

I would also delist White and F.Young because we had 2 extra rookies due to LTI selections last year.

If we were to retain Lij (I'd like if club sees fit), or Gov, I would relegate one to rookie spot to take on 2 KP players on Primary List. I don't want to risk losing a train on player to teams with rookie selections before us.

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The club has obviously decided to take a hit on some of our top end talent to strengthen our overall depth….but let’s not kid ourselves - Charlie, TDK & SOJ would comfortably be in our best 23 next year.

Charlie is elite, TDK will be soon. They will be bloody hard to cover and I think we’ll struggle next year.

But I guess sometimes you need to take a step backwards to go two steps forward.

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More time for Tom?

Then what? A pay increase?

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Great Article in the Melbourne Age by Mar McGowan on post Curnow era at the Blues
Devoid of any hyperbole McGowan is ond of the best writers in the caper particularly about drafts and trades.
He and Andrew Wu are terrific young journalists very good at their craft and are vastly superior to the tripe written by the Pooper Scooper.

The Article is very pertinent to what we are discussing in this thread really worth a read

Keep EH on the list and handcuff him to Boak over the summer.

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