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Not wrong, just REALLY early.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 12:14 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
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abysmal.

even with not the greatest list. rolling over like that in the 3rd. no leadership, no coaching (we've not had coaching in decades, tbh), no pride in the jersey and each to a player, no pride in themselves.


it's as bleak as anything served up in the salary cap penalty years.



every team knows ho to unravel us. flood back in defence and we will turn it over. we can't hit wide open, uncontested targets, so we ain't hitting high contested targets and threading needles.

then Cox hit the switch at HT. we are not going to chip the ball around and kick over them. we're gonna run it right down their throats. handball chains, get on your bikes and run these softcocks off the pitch.

.... and they did. the formula to beat us hasn't changed. it's just gotten easier to execute.


Swans played the same way all night they just didn't connect in first half - they just run and spread and we were clueless.

Can someone please explain how in a meaningless jog around the park practice game last week we go out an lay 82 tackles with Cooper Lord laying 13 - Last night opening night of the season 38 all night and Cooper Lord zero tackles.

Tackling is effort - why put the effort in on a practice fame and not when the real stuff arrives

Swans kicked more goals than we made tackles in 2nd half

I dont care what game plan you have or cattle available to you if you lack effort you are no chance



my brother in christ, they absolutely did change it up.

wayyy more focus on give and go, handball support and run in waves. Every stoppage they took a number from the immediate stoppage & put someone - gulden, heeney, chad or McInerney about 15/ 20m goalside of the stoppage. and the whole stoppage was about getting the ball to that point. toe poke, slap, handball, parry doesn't matter how, just get it to that point bcos they won't catch us. and we didn't.

at HT Cox took the extra player from the stappage and placed him goalside - he backed his players to win the stoppage with one less man ahead of the ball. and they did.

walsh, cripps, hewett - none of them ran backwards or chased. hewett and cripps physically can't, and walsh didn't.

cripps and hewett look another year older and another 3-4 years slower than last season, which is going to make for one helluva long season.


Well said. They had outsiders at the midfield and just moved it out wide / forward and it was over. We are a dumb, dumb footy club and our coaches keep structuring up the same way. Dumb


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 12:42 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
abysmal.

even with not the greatest list. rolling over like that in the 3rd. no leadership, no coaching (we've not had coaching in decades, tbh), no pride in the jersey and each to a player, no pride in themselves.


it's as bleak as anything served up in the salary cap penalty years.



every team knows ho to unravel us. flood back in defence and we will turn it over. we can't hit wide open, uncontested targets, so we ain't hitting high contested targets and threading needles.

then Cox hit the switch at HT. we are not going to chip the ball around and kick over them. we're gonna run it right down their throats. handball chains, get on your bikes and run these softcocks off the pitch.

.... and they did. the formula to beat us hasn't changed. it's just gotten easier to execute.


Swans played the same way all night they just didn't connect in first half - they just run and spread and we were clueless.

Can someone please explain how in a meaningless jog around the park practice game last week we go out an lay 82 tackles with Cooper Lord laying 13 - Last night opening night of the season 38 all night and Cooper Lord zero tackles.

Tackling is effort - why put the effort in on a practice fame and not when the real stuff arrives

Swans kicked more goals than we made tackles in 2nd half

I dont care what game plan you have or cattle available to you if you lack effort you are no chance



my brother in christ, they absolutely did change it up.

wayyy more focus on give and go, handball support and run in waves. Every stoppage they took a number from the immediate stoppage & put someone - gulden, heeney, chad or McInerney about 15/ 20m goalside of the stoppage. and the whole stoppage was about getting the ball to that point. toe poke, slap, handball, parry doesn't matter how, just get it to that point bcos they won't catch us. and we didn't.

at HT Cox took the extra player from the stappage and placed him goalside - he backed his players to win the stoppage with one less man ahead of the ball. and they did.

walsh, cripps, hewett - none of them ran backwards or chased. hewett and cripps physically can't, and walsh didn't.

cripps and hewett look another year older and another 3-4 years slower than last season, which is going to make for one helluva long season.


agree with this, and the new interpration of the rule is going to make it even more of a gap.

If i understand it correctly, the team with the ball, can have a player running past for a hand ball ... but the team without the ball cant follow that man otherwise its 50m?

gulden did this several times in the 3rd quarter and it just blew us apart ... simply no answer for it ... and for the teams that have the right player to execute this (i think we could use Saad potentially in this role) ... wowee, is that going to be something hard to stop.

this year for mine (and i make no excuses for that 3rd quarter ... it was as bad a performance by us, as it was an amazing performance by them) is abit of a reset. We have made wholesale changes (7 new players) but we have to continue to turn over the list at years end.

honestly, i dont think it was the kids or debutants that let us down yesterday ... but our leaders (outside of Walsh and Weitering) where as poor as i have seen for along time.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 1:45 pm 
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Just for Braithy

I was in level 6 of the SCG last night and I spent most of the night talking to John Barker - Mil Hanna and Vossy little brother along with a Couple of EX QLD cowboys players

When we got to half time I said they might be a chance - Barker and Hanna said no chance - We got to 22 points up and I jokingly had a go at Barker saying this is why he wasnt coaching anymore - Hanna and the two Rugby League guys pointed out that the swans were spreading and running from defence they were just fluffing there lines and Carlton couldnt hurt them on the rebound becuase no one runs to give option and they rely on pin point passes to a manned up forward - Barker said if they start to stick the passes they will run over the top of them .
The Optus host I was with said what the hell happened - Hanna said the only thing different was they hit their targets

Now I didn't pick this up but they certainly did - they all left 5 minutes into the last quarter

As soon as Swans win possession they get on their bike there are options every where - they back themselves to keep the ball and if they do turn it over they run back hard and try chop it off.

They turned it over just as much as we did but we couldn't hurt them

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 3:32 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
I"ll cut 'em some slack . Seven players playing there first game for the Club . Give them time to develop a bit of cohesion before they gel as a unit . Having said that i think the Magoo's practise match this afternoon will be fascinating . Who will put there hand up ?

Some might argue in favour of another 15 debutants, Mick.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 3:37 pm 
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Have the rules changed so much that you can Cobra-Kai a bloke in the back of his legs and escape sanction?

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Ollie Florent has escaped sanction after accidentally kneeing Isaac Heeney in the head.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 4:06 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Ollie Florent has escaped sanction after accidentally kneeing Isaac Heeney in the head.

Just another example of the persecution of the far-right in this country.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 4:11 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Ollie Florent has escaped sanction after accidentally kneeing Isaac Heeney in the head.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 4:37 pm 
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Pros:

First half.
Trying to move the ball quickly.
At least we kept scoring after half time.
Didn't get beaten by Heeney.
Pittonet, Walsh, Jagga, Ainsworth.
Encouraging to see Lord and Elijah find plenty of the ball, but their ball use was average.
Chesser was encouraging. Kemp was good early. Best I've seen Moir compete.
Dean has some toe. Got a bit of the Dustin Fletcher about him.

Cons:

Defensive pressure was very disappointing (especially compared with last week).
Coping with opposition pressure (and the conditions). Lots of fumbling and missed disposals.
Slaughtered at ground level in our defensive 50.
Cut up Warner again. We're quicker than we were, but we're still a way off the quick sides.
Didn't have enough scoreboard impact in the first half. Kept on giving one possession too many. Need to get more set shots, and make more of those we get.
Need way more from Cripps, Hewett and Weiters. Need way more from Harry in forward 50.
Young, Fogarty and McGovern were poor.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 4:46 pm 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
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Ollie Florent has escaped sanction after accidentally kneeing Isaac Heeney in the head.


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I seem to remember Isaac differently in that show

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 5:04 pm 
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Sidefx wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
abysmal.

even with not the greatest list. rolling over like that in the 3rd. no leadership, no coaching (we've not had coaching in decades, tbh), no pride in the jersey and each to a player, no pride in themselves.


it's as bleak as anything served up in the salary cap penalty years.



every team knows ho to unravel us. flood back in defence and we will turn it over. we can't hit wide open, uncontested targets, so we ain't hitting high contested targets and threading needles.

then Cox hit the switch at HT. we are not going to chip the ball around and kick over them. we're gonna run it right down their throats. handball chains, get on your bikes and run these softcocks off the pitch.

.... and they did. the formula to beat us hasn't changed. it's just gotten easier to execute.


Swans played the same way all night they just didn't connect in first half - they just run and spread and we were clueless.

Can someone please explain how in a meaningless jog around the park practice game last week we go out an lay 82 tackles with Cooper Lord laying 13 - Last night opening night of the season 38 all night and Cooper Lord zero tackles.

Tackling is effort - why put the effort in on a practice fame and not when the real stuff arrives

Swans kicked more goals than we made tackles in 2nd half

I dont care what game plan you have or cattle available to you if you lack effort you are no chance

Exactly, Cox didn't have to do a thing.
Our players looked cooked at half time, they were visibly more exhausted than the Swans.
Same as last year, we dominated with the ball for a half or a quarter but did not put any scoreboard pressure, giving teams a no pressure opportunity to run us off our feet and make them look like witches hats, especially in the middle.

IMO Geelong is a slower team than the Swans, so our tackling was a lot more effective because our slower players could get their hands on them.
But the signs were there with our ball handling and disposal, the practice video is looking more accurate of where the team is at after that game.
Sydney mids spent way less TOG than Carlton's in the first half.
Teams let us gas ourselves by half time then just waltz past while our mids are gasping for air.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 5:32 pm 
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tommi wrote:
Either way….

NO one kicks 13 goals in a quarter against the
mighty Blues…na-a…


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 7:00 pm 
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For what it's worth


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Full time at IKON Park.

Plenty to like from that... save for the last kick in front of goal

Acres, Carroll and Cowan all get through while Boyd, Hogg and Ison impress.

FINAL SCORE: Carlton 6.22 (58), Footscray 12.7 (79)

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 7:31 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
abysmal.

even with not the greatest list. rolling over like that in the 3rd. no leadership, no coaching (we've not had coaching in decades, tbh), no pride in the jersey and each to a player, no pride in themselves.


it's as bleak as anything served up in the salary cap penalty years.



every team knows ho to unravel us. flood back in defence and we will turn it over. we can't hit wide open, uncontested targets, so we ain't hitting high contested targets and threading needles.

then Cox hit the switch at HT. we are not going to chip the ball around and kick over them. we're gonna run it right down their throats. handball chains, get on your bikes and run these softcocks off the pitch.

.... and they did. the formula to beat us hasn't changed. it's just gotten easier to execute.


Swans played the same way all night they just didn't connect in first half - they just run and spread and we were clueless.

Can someone please explain how in a meaningless jog around the park practice game last week we go out an lay 82 tackles with Cooper Lord laying 13 - Last night opening night of the season 38 all night and Cooper Lord zero tackles.

Tackling is effort - why put the effort in on a practice fame and not when the real stuff arrives

Swans kicked more goals than we made tackles in 2nd half

I dont care what game plan you have or cattle available to you if you lack effort you are no chance



my brother in christ, they absolutely did change it up.

wayyy more focus on give and go, handball support and run in waves. Every stoppage they took a number from the immediate stoppage & put someone - gulden, heeney, chad or McInerney about 15/ 20m goalside of the stoppage. and the whole stoppage was about getting the ball to that point. toe poke, slap, handball, parry doesn't matter how, just get it to that point bcos they won't catch us. and we didn't.

at HT Cox took the extra player from the stappage and placed him goalside - he backed his players to win the stoppage with one less man ahead of the ball. and they did.

walsh, cripps, hewett - none of them ran backwards or chased. hewett and cripps physically can't, and walsh didn't.

cripps and hewett look another year older and another 3-4 years slower than last season, which is going to make for one helluva long season.

I watched Cox presser post game and he pretty much said they didn't change anything.
They backed their processes and what they trained pre-season and his key players all stepped up, referring to their lack of impact in the first half.
He basically said his stars took responsibility and came out with shit on the liver and schooled us.
They have a much better midfield than we do.

The thing that frustrates me is since 2023 when only 2 teams were playing this modern spread game, we have only added an 18 year old kid to our slow aging midfield.
Like I said a few weeks ago and before the game, having Cripps and Hewett in the midfield together will not work anymore and adding Cerra to that mix is midfield suicide.
CBAs
Walsh %84
Cripps %62
Hewett %53
Smith %53
Lord %22
Williams %16

Williams needs more time in there even though he was kicking at %40, but he made a few things happen.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 7:46 pm 
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Agreed with the idea of playing Williams at more centre bounces; he and Jagga can rotate between midfield and the forward line. Williams is the man for the high risk high reward play, and it quickly became apparent that putting him in defence wasn't the right move (especially when he seemed to be on Amartey much of the second half, what the hell was that? ). Hopefully the return of Cowan, Newman, Wilson and/or Carroll will spell the end of his time at the back.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 8:38 pm 
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Wojee wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
abysmal.

even with not the greatest list. rolling over like that in the 3rd. no leadership, no coaching (we've not had coaching in decades, tbh), no pride in the jersey and each to a player, no pride in themselves.


it's as bleak as anything served up in the salary cap penalty years.



every team knows ho to unravel us. flood back in defence and we will turn it over. we can't hit wide open, uncontested targets, so we ain't hitting high contested targets and threading needles.

then Cox hit the switch at HT. we are not going to chip the ball around and kick over them. we're gonna run it right down their throats. handball chains, get on your bikes and run these softcocks off the pitch.

.... and they did. the formula to beat us hasn't changed. it's just gotten easier to execute.


Swans played the same way all night they just didn't connect in first half - they just run and spread and we were clueless.

Can someone please explain how in a meaningless jog around the park practice game last week we go out an lay 82 tackles with Cooper Lord laying 13 - Last night opening night of the season 38 all night and Cooper Lord zero tackles.

Tackling is effort - why put the effort in on a practice fame and not when the real stuff arrives

Swans kicked more goals than we made tackles in 2nd half

I dont care what game plan you have or cattle available to you if you lack effort you are no chance

Exactly, Cox didn't have to do a thing.
Our players looked cooked at half time, they were visibly more exhausted than the Swans.
Same as last year, we dominated with the ball for a half or a quarter but did not put any scoreboard pressure, giving teams a no pressure opportunity to run us off our feet and make them look like witches hats, especially in the middle.

IMO Geelong is a slower team than the Swans, so our tackling was a lot more effective because our slower players could get their hands on them.
But the signs were there with our ball handling and disposal, the practice video is looking more accurate of where the team is at after that game.
Sydney mids spent way less TOG than Carlton's in the first half.
Teams let us gas ourselves by half time then just waltz past while our mids are gasping for air.

Interesting, I haven't looked at those stats yet.
Thanks Wojee.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2026 8:49 pm 
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Rod Waddell wrote:
tommi wrote:
Either way….

NO one kicks 13 goals in a quarter against the
mighty Blues…na-a…


kindest regards tommi


Nice one Vitas Geraulitis




Good work Mr Waddell….!


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