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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 11:00 am 
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We need run, spread and agility from the backline. E Hollands, Boyd, Guv, Derk, Carroll and Florent to RUN as soon as we have the ball.
Byrne, Williams, Moir, Ainsworth to all spend time at the centre throw up, at no time do we have Hewett and Cripps on ball at the same time.
L Young to play deep forward and compete and bring the ball to ground, also second ruck.
Harry to play up the ground away from goals, and CHASE.
Byrne plays limited minutes for impact and speed.
Carrol is seventh defender (until Newman/Cowan are back), maybe we can swap him for Ollie and have Ollie in defence.

B: Boyd, Weitering, E Hollands
HB:McGovern, Derksen, Florent
C: O Hollands, Cripps, Chesser
HF: Hayward, McKay, Moir/Kemp
F: Ainsworth, L Young, Evans
Foll: Pittonet, Walsh, Smith
Int: Williams, Hewett, Carroll, Lord, Byrne

Emerg: HoK, Kemp/Moir, F Young, Dean


Fair enough. I see what you mean.
Guv run? Gosh. He was a statue.

I don't think Evans will be playing till round 2.
What if Carroll and Cowan return this week?
Carroll was sprinting and closing down space during reserves game.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 11:10 am 
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I know we were not expected to beat sydney. But cmon 12 goals in less than a quarter, it was like watching the harlem globetrotters run through witches hats. That we dont expect. If we played well, and fought hard and lost, then i would have respect but not what happened in that 3rd quarter.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 11:10 am 
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Agree. I don't think the club is punishing doc or cutting him off, but more just avoiding the awkwardness for a bit.

The more I think about this Gorringe thing the more I smell a rat though. Did he really just go ahead & air it without thinking about the consequences? They're best mates apparently. Something about it just seems orchestrated to me.

Of course it was orchestrated.

We’re back in the Dylan Howard bin-dipping for medical records era.

Someone’s phone will be ‘hacked’. Nothing surer.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 11:11 am 
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Carrol and Cowan need to come in if they are fit. Bring Derksen in. Dean if he cant run out a game, will need to make way till his fitness is up.

But McGovern either needs to be dropped or played forward.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 11:12 am 
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Probably because past players and Carlton people are still meddling with the club as per below.

Wright taking no prisoners.

Docherty has got himself uninvited to Thursday's pregame function.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1474824/sam-docherty-withdrawn-from-carlton-blues-function-after-stinging-criticism-following-loss-to-sydney-swans


Wow.

Wright is in charge. no allegiance to past players.

I do agree with bluehammer in that we may be known as a contested side because we said we were and back in 2022 and 2023 was our one wood, but I dont think we are the best contested team in the comp, nor can we rely on winning the contest.

We took the foot off the peddle for 15 minutes, then when Sydney were 2 goals up we couldnt win the arm wrestle/ contested ball imo. Weird.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 11:15 am 
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tommi wrote:
I. Understand….

but for me it’s the public thing…dirty laundry
stuff….

now don’t get me wrong…Doc has every right to
his opinion…and i agree with some of the stuff
he’s said-BUT…maybe a chat with the club…

but maybe Doc hasn’t always done the right thing
by the club…I’m upset he put his hand up in the
final…he wasn’t ready….

but again…it’s Doc…what the &#@% do i now….


kindest regards tommi


You've got to know when to hold them, know when to fold them...

Doc led with his chin or Gorringe did the dirty on Doc.
we need to know the truth about that before we go out lynching.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 11:16 am 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0XtWOfgT1M

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 11:17 am 
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Traveller86 wrote:
Pathetic response from the club. Truth hurts.

This and the banning of Heath Buck from filming training after the skills session went viral just proves again nothings changed.

All about PR and controlling the narrative, silencing dissent and eliminating those who dare to question things.


What organization doesn’t want to control the narrative. I think Doc was put in a bad position by his mate, but he can’t be surprised. And also my issue with Doc is that he absolves himself of any responsibility for the situation if what he said was true. He was one of the leaders of the football club. He makes his comments like he is on the outside looking in when he was up until recently at the core of things.

As for the reaction to the loss, it’s like we have never got a belting in Sydney. It’s round 1. We have good people at the helm of the footy club. They made bold decisions at the end of last year. Let’s reserve judgment and then assess where things are at.

What happened last Thursday could have happened to any club in the competition.


cool head

like very much

I say the game was a unicorn

If we keep serving up the bombing game, we know the players learned nothing during the preseason.

Have to add, the Forwards didnt lead much throughout the whole game.

I even saw Harry bomb the ball to Kemp who had two taller opponents on him and no crumbers near.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 11:21 am 
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RE: Docherty

If he did leave his friend a long, frustrated voice message and his friend then released it without his permission, then that's a pretty shit thing for Gorringe to do.

That would mean Docherty's appearance this week could potentially be pretty awkward, and it wouldn't surprise me that the club and Docherty agreed it would be better for him to lay low for a week.

The way McClure (a real headline chaser) has reported it, it sounds like we've stripped him of his life membership. He was due to speak at *one* of the many pre-match events, not appear on the ground or toss the coin. No doubt they've shifted him to another game down the road.

If the club told Docherty that he's cut, and Doc didn't agree with it, then that's fine. The club doesn't owe Docherty anything. He can be as critical as he pleases, but the club doesn't have to pay him to make appearances if it doesn't want to. There are plenty of ex-players available, I'm sure.

I also agree it's a bit rich that he's been portrayed as some oracle of honest frustration - he was on the list for 11 flower' years. He was vice captain. He played in most of the games that involved the opposition running all over us. It's like when someone gets voted out of office and then they turn around and say 'why doesn't the government do something!' flower - you were just there.

Also, nothing about Gorringe's post-footy-social-media-clown-AFL-fuck-boi nonsense appeals to me. And I kinda agree with CK, that if this isn't Gorringe being a real prick to his mate, then it's the two of them trying to drum up a bit of controvery for the attention... and if that's the case, @#$%&! them both.


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As for the last line :thumbsup: and :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 11:24 am 
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Drewgirl wrote:
I know we were not expected to beat sydney. But cmon 12 goals in less than a quarter, it was like watching the harlem globetrotters run through witches hats. That we dont expect. If we played well, and fought hard and lost, then i would have respect but not what happened in that 3rd quarter.

Silver lining though, at least we were punching on. That’s absolutely something new.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 11:43 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
Probably because past players and Carlton people are still meddling with the club as per below.

Wright taking no prisoners.

Docherty has got himself uninvited to Thursday's pregame function.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1474824/sam-docherty-withdrawn-from-carlton-blues-function-after-stinging-criticism-following-loss-to-sydney-swans


Wow.

Wright is in charge. no allegiance to past players.

I do agree with bluehammer in that we may be known as a contested side because we said we were and back in 2022 and 2023 was our one wood, but I dont think we are the best contested team in the comp, nor can we rely on winning the contest.

We took the foot off the peddle for 15 minutes, then when Sydney were 2 goals up we couldnt win the arm wrestle/ contested ball imo. Weird.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 11:54 am 
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We've talked a bit about how having TDK, JSoS and Charlie half out-the-door all season had a negative affect on the club... but the Sam Docherty retirement saga probably didn't help much either.

I actually like Voss' response today:

"People keep asking about last year's best-and-fairest speech and culturally we defeated ourselves, well, I just felt it was an example of that," Voss said.

"For us to have a productive conversation, I think we all need to know that we're not going to get mixed between the old and the new.

"We're new, and that's the way we're going forward."


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 12:02 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0XtWOfgT1M

For what it is worth.

Regards Cazzesman


Handled it beautifully I thought . Well played M.Voss .

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 12:12 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
We need run, spread and agility from the backline. E Hollands, Boyd, Guv, Derk, Carroll and Florent to RUN as soon as we have the ball.
Byrne, Williams, Moir, Ainsworth to all spend time at the centre throw up, at no time do we have Hewett and Cripps on ball at the same time.
L Young to play deep forward and compete and bring the ball to ground, also second ruck.
Harry to play up the ground away from goals, and CHASE.
Byrne plays limited minutes for impact and speed.
Carrol is seventh defender (until Newman/Cowan are back), maybe we can swap him for Ollie and have Ollie in defence.

B: Boyd, Weitering, E Hollands
HB:McGovern, Derksen, Florent
C: O Hollands, Cripps, Chesser
HF: Hayward, McKay, Moir/Kemp
F: Ainsworth, L Young, Evans
Foll: Pittonet, Walsh, Smith
Int: Williams, Hewett, Carroll, Lord, Byrne

Emerg: HoK, Kemp/Moir, F Young, Dean


Fair enough. I see what you mean.
Guv run? Gosh. He was a statue.

I don't think Evans will be playing till round 2.
What if Carroll and Cowan return this week?
Carroll was sprinting and closing down space during reserves game.


Carroll is in the team as a defender, could swap him with Ollie and play on the wing.

If Cowan is fit then replace Guv with Cowan.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 12:15 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
Probably because past players and Carlton people are still meddling with the club as per below.

Wright taking no prisoners.

Docherty has got himself uninvited to Thursday's pregame function.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1474824/sam-docherty-withdrawn-from-carlton-blues-function-after-stinging-criticism-following-loss-to-sydney-swans


Wow.

Wright is in charge. no allegiance to past players.

I do agree with bluehammer in that we may be known as a contested side because we said we were and back in 2022 and 2023 was our one wood, but I dont think we are the best contested team in the comp, nor can we rely on winning the contest.

We took the foot off the peddle for 15 minutes, then when Sydney were 2 goals up we couldnt win the arm wrestle/ contested ball imo. Weird.


I think the problem is that our only attribute is that we are a strong contested side. We are not the best at the contest and we don't have any other strength right now.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 12:26 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0XtWOfgT1M

For what it is worth.

Regards Cazzesman


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 12:32 pm 
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What Simmo says
Former West Coast coach Adam Simpson, who has a minor role with Voss at the Blues, also provided his two cents on the situation.

“I know it might not have aired the way he (Docherty) would have liked it,” Simpson begun on SEN’s Whateley.

“But if that was what the locker room was like last year, it’s a good thing he’s not there now if that’s his opinion.

“It doesn’t matter how good or bad a leader you are, if you’re talking like that within the four walls it’s going to ooze out to other players.

“Then it undermines what you’re trying to do. So getting that separated was an important piece, and I suspect he wasn’t the only one with those thoughts. Those moves have been made.

“Now he (Docherty) is on the outside he can say what he wants. But it’s hard to be part of the club.

“Everyone has got a gripe. Patrick Dangerfield will have a gripe with Geelong that he’ll never speak about because there’s too much respect there. You’re not always happy.

“He (Docherty) has got every right to air his feelings but it’s hard to be part of the club when you know what they’re trying to do and the work they’ve put in. They need a little bit of support at the moment.

“The internal stuff, what’s reality and what’s now, that’s the most important thing for Vossy. Not how he handles this issue. It’s more how they respond this week.”

So, if i take what Simmo is saying and what Voss said this morning, and I add the sooking in the media over the summer by Doc (about not recruiting
for the here and now at the end of the 2024 season), perhaps Doc was a part of the cultural problem at the club last year.
I am glad the club didn't let it fly. Even if Voss is not the answer as coach, we don't need past captains hanging shit on the club in public. Doc had plenty of opportunity to walk his comments back but chose not to.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 12:40 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0XtWOfgT1M

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Regards Cazzesman



10 minutes of the media trolling & baiting him with about 3 decent questions thrown in :roll:


He handled it well

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My mum leaving me instructions on how to reheat lasagne holds that title, but yep it was long
To be fair, that was also a shitshow

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2026 12:58 pm 
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bluehammer wrote:
CK95 wrote:
My mum leaving me instructions on how to reheat lasagne holds that title, but yep it was long
To be fair, that was also a shitshow


Once the lasagne got on the outside you couldn’t deal with it?


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