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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 10:28 am 
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Craig Bradley
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An interesting point of view on our recruiting, I don't necessarily 100% agree with it all, but it's not 100% wrong also.
We needed to fill an age gap and Leigh seems to have forgotten how bad our injury list has been and the need to add experience to cover those players that played in the VFL.
I agree about our lack of trading in A grade talent, especially mids. Cerra was supposed to be that but he has been a disappointment.
And the players we brought in last year did let us down on the weekend, I don't think they will continue to though, but it is good that they have been called out.
I was surprised we have the most players from opposition teams on our list, especially given Geelong's recruiting.
Losing 3 drafted players last year probably didn't help though.
It was good he highlighted what we all know about our player development.

Starts @ 5:15


The first part about Harley Reid was interesting though, they showed clips when he got the ball and how he draws a crowd, freeing up his own players.
This is what we do every week with opposition midfielders that are killing us and we end up making space for them to punish us.
We don't have anyone doing this for us, not even close.
Harley is also blocking for his younger mids and making space is something our mids are not doing, they all seem to be playing for themselves, especially in second halves.
Cripps used to be like this, he really needs to step it up, not be the hero and just do the grunt work that delivers.
Create space, draw a crowd, feed the ball to the others and hold his tackles.
And do it for 4 quarters.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 12:35 pm 
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I couldn’t, in good conscience, offer either Camporeale a new deal.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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The coaching staff are probably no good, but we have bigger problems when it comes to list management and drafting.

Carlton does not draft enough good players.

Take a look around the league; don't just look at Carlton.

West Coast will go past Carlton soon (maybe are there already)? Richmond are being hammered by injuries but look at where they are heading.

IMO we'll have 4 quality youngsters - Dean, O'Farrell, Walker and J Smith - after that where is the quality? Compare it to a Brisbane, GC, Richmond.

Four is not enough!

We are in big big big big trouble.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 5:38 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 6:11 pm 
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Gee SOS and Austin have butchered this club it would have to go down as the worst drafting ever


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 6:19 pm 
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Keithy wrote:
Gee SOS and Austin have butchered this club it would have to go down as the worst drafting ever

You are spot on. Both "mates rates" appointments

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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Keithy wrote:
Gee SOS and Austin have butchered this club it would have to go down as the worst drafting ever


Yes. Coupled with an inability to develop footballers properly. Maybe no more nepotism?


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 6:41 pm 
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Effes wrote:
The coaching staff are probably no good, but we have bigger problems when it comes to list management and drafting.

Carlton does not draft enough good players.

Take a look around the league; don't just look at Carlton.

West Coast will go past Carlton soon (maybe are there already)? Richmond are being hammered by injuries but look at where they are heading.

IMO we'll have 4 quality youngsters - Dean, O'Farrell, Walker and J Smith - after that where is the quality? Compare it to a Brisbane, GC, Richmond.

Four is not enough!

We are in big big big big trouble.

They’re drafting three to our one in the first round. Tigers took seven in the super draft.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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Taking the picks for De Koning when they were on the table.

That was the sliding door. That was where the top up was coming from.

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 Post subject: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 7:06 pm 
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Chesser injured for 2 years struggled to get a game at West Coast
Florent could not get a game at Sydney
Reidy could not get a game at Fremantle
Derkson could not get a game at GWS
Frankie could not get a game at Port
Boyd struggled at Dogs
Young struggled at Dogs
Pitto could not get a game at Hawks
Haynes on the outer at GWS
Cerra was the 4th or 5th midfielder at Freo
McGovern on outer at Adelaide.
Ainsworth losing his place to others at Gold Coast
Hayward was 4th banana at Sydney
2 Irish lads have shown nothing
Moir is a Spud
Campo boys struggling

Martin kicking goals at Geelong
Kennedy tears it up at Dogs
Carroll going ok at Saints
Stocker going ok at Saints
Holman going ok at Suns
Durdin averages 2 goals a game at Port

Add TDK JSOS and Charlie

Ironically 2 players Gov and Elijah they were going to let go have probably been 2 of our best

List management is a disaster

I said 3 years ago Austin is going to cost Vossy his job





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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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Sack Austin then


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2026 8:50 pm 
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Effes wrote:
The coaching staff are probably no good, but we have bigger problems when it comes to list management and drafting.

Carlton does not draft enough good players.

Take a look around the league; don't just look at Carlton.

West Coast will go past Carlton soon (maybe are there already)? Richmond are being hammered by injuries but look at where they are heading.

IMO we'll have 4 quality youngsters - Dean, O'Farrell, Walker and J Smith - after that where is the quality? Compare it to a Brisbane, GC, Richmond.

Four is not enough!

We are in big big big big trouble.


worse than our coaching and drafting, is our development... no one here takes the next step. no one here lives up to potential.

then you look at cats and swans and what they're doing.

we're a league away from that.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2026 12:26 am 
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We all knew the list was in transition with senior players leaving last year. But our start to the year means this year is already over. So time to pour games into our younger players. They won't drop Cripps, who's struggled. But it's probably time to drop Hewett.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2026 1:36 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Chesser injured for 2 years struggled to get a game at West Coast
Florent could not get a game at Sydney
Reidy could not get a game at Fremantle
Derkson could not get a game at GWS
Frankie could not get a game at Port
Boyd struggled at Dogs
Young struggled at Dogs
Pitto could not get a game at Hawks
Haynes on the outer at GWS
Cerra was the 4th or 5th midfielder at Freo
McGovern on outer at Adelaide.
Ainsworth losing his place to others at Gold Coast
Hayward was 4th banana at Sydney
2 Irish lads have shown nothing
Moir is a Spud
Campo boys struggling

Martin kicking goals at Geelong
Kennedy tears it up at Dogs
Carroll going ok at Saints
Stocker going ok at Saints
Holman going ok at Suns
Durdin averages 2 goals a game at Port

Add TDK JSOS and Charlie

Ironically 2 players Gov and Elijah they were going to let go have probably been 2 of our best

List management is a disaster

I said 3 years ago Austin is going to cost Vossy his job





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 Post subject: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2026 2:11 am 
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For some reason I got thinking about a game we lost to the Hawks in Tassie. Bolton era, couple of years pre covid I think.

Guys like Harry & Weiters were young & represented our hopes & dreams. We got in a winning position but coughed it up at the end & lost, & it was gutting, but you could tell we were getting there, & like a lot of young sides, just needed to learn how to close out a win.

Even my Hawks mate who hates Carlton said we were on our way.

And yet here we are. All these years later, same problem, don't know how to win, haven't grown up, haven't come good, no steely resolve, supporters still full of anxiety & tension in last quarters.

And Harry & Jacob now play like players who've been losers for far too long.

Really don't think I can recall feeling this shit about our list since the Pagan era.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2026 7:19 am 
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If you want to find positives, we have put ourselves in winning positions every game. An incompetent playing list could not do that. If we can just close out one match with assurance against a good side, maybe we can break the spell.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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That’s true and I hope you’re right because but I don’t think I’ll survive a season of losing games we’re in a position to win.

The one thing that hasn’t been mentioned much is the five day break.

If we’re struggling to run out games then it at least makes some sense this week.

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 Post subject: List Management 2026
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Five day break and a man down could be a factor but we mostly just shit ourselves again.


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 Post subject: List Management 2026
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Fair, but North had played the night before. And we'd played 1 game in 22 days leading up or whatever

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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There are plenty of issues across the list, but one of them is the skillful/pacy forward who can rotate on ball. Think Zac Bailey, Shai Bolton, Murphy Reid, Rankine, Connor MacDonald, K Pickett.

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