Yeah , I'm aware of that Cazz . No way BV was being serious and neither was I . I just couldn't help myself having a little dig at the Scott's . Still can't get over the Riewoldt incident . Lowest thing I have seen in football . What sort of person would attack a clearly injured player like they did . I put that in the category of cruelty to an injured and defenceless animal . .

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P S ............... what's happening with the recruiting up there Cazz ? restructure and all that . Any names mentioned ?

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Regards Cazzesman

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When will they give Voss the flick? The next 3 weeks are Adelaide, Collingwood and Fremantle. We will get slaughtered in all those games. I predict Fremantle will be his last game.

I actually don't see the point in sacking mid season. The season is as good as over. Appointing an assistant serves no purpose. Horse would not agree to a mid season takeover. Just let the season run out ... and above everything else ... DON'T APPOINT ADAM SIMPSON.

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I bet we wont have the courage to move on from Voss before the end of the year.

We are listening to the media critism about us always sacking Coaches. And probably why no one good wants to coach us as its a tough job and we dont take failure well as we sack them often.

We should have moved him on last year. Now its another wasted year.

Where is the ruthless Wright you all speak of ??

Voss has had long enough now and cant fix the second half issues that have been happening last year, through to this year.

We play a taxing style of flooding back and waving forward. Its not sustainable footy. Stubborn mule doesnt want to change. Keeps on repeating the same stuff over and over. He has to go.

Lovely guy Vossy, but not smart enough to coach. And i dont want any more sacked coaches.

We need someone tough and hates losing, and with a footy brain. Any Mitchell clones out there ?

Hoyne from Champion data
No1 at stoppages
No1 at goals from Stoppages
No 18 from turnovers

We have intercepted the ball 113 times in back half of ground and only scored 1 goal from it.

He was suggesting we play to our strengths and move Harry up the ground and if he doesn't mark it we create a stoppage.

Turn the game into a stoppages game which is our strength.

It would help if we had some one else to kick it to

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Surely if the coach was the issue the players would not be 100% behind him and if the game plan was a major issue we would not have been in winning positions in every game this year so far! Im as frustrated as anyone but surely the changes to the game plan this year have to some degree worked , there just needs to be more work done. maybe one of those needs to be Crippa resigning from the captaincy as I do not see a spot for him Hewitt and Cerra in the midfield together and given Cerra is the best kick of them all, he should stay. I just feel our game has changed leaving a few players behind and it needs to change further which I believe Voss and everyone involved knows!

I find it so interesting and infuriating that Melbourne is now getting such plaudits.
Yet just over a week ago, we kept them to 1 goal in the first half!

And I am pretty confident that if we had beaten Melbourne, we would have also beaten North. A mental sliding doors moment, I guess.

The only way I can make sense of it is that we are actually playing a solid brand of football but it's too taxing to maintain beyond about 1 or 2 quarters. So they stop leading as much, stop chasing as much and the ball carrier's either are too puffed to look for a leading option or there are no leads upfield to kick to (or both) and so we just start the bombing. And it's all downhill from there.

Kind of like trying to get Usain Bolt to run 400m or 1500m! He can blitz the field in the first 200m but would not be able to sustain that for 400m or beyond.

17th. You are spot on. They run out of puff in the second half as you cant sustain the brand we are being asked to play for the whole game.

But these are the coaches instructions. They need to be held accountable. And they dont know how to fix it. Since last year this has been going on. Where do we draw the line ?

Skills plays a big part in our form drop off and fatigue reduces your skills making already poor players, worse.
If the players were cleaner with the ball, hit more targets, stuck more tackles and converted the easy misses on goals.
We would've beaten Melbourne and North and we'd have been 3-1.
Individual players, on-field leaders and coaching to an extent all have a hand in it.
But most importantly our list depth is not that good and holding players accountable that have far better upside than the next in line means we can't and don't.

Damn lies and statistics, I think Hoyne is off his trolley.

That is basically what we try to do, clog up the game and create more stoppages. And it works when everyone can get there and crowd.

Come the 2nd half when fatigue sets in and discipline drops off, we're miles off it.

We're number one in goals from stoppages. So what. Fewer stoppages in the game and a league that are hell bent on NOT having stoppages, yet the call is to double down on that?

Screwy.

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Voss's fate was already sealed since last year. Here is what I been told ( Whether its true or not, remains to be seen).


So, when the new President came on, he had no intention of keeping Voss. However, Voss had one year left on his Contract and they did not want to pay him out. They were happy to wait for one final year so then they can go and get a decent Coach. If the Board & the President were happy with Voss, they would have already offered him a 3-4 years extension but they didn't.

The President is committed to keeping Voss until the end of the year and then he will be making some Big changes including the Coach. I just pray that he sacks Austin & all those recruitment puppets for the miserable choices they have made!

Personally, I think Hoyne is spot on. You don't try to fix a problem by reducing a strength. You address your weaknesses.
We're the best team at scoring from stoppages but 18th for scoring from turnover and ball movement.
That's where your players are getting fatigued. Ideally you transition the ball from defence to your forward 50 and the players lock it in there.
As he said, we had the ball in our defensive 50 115 times and been rewarded with one goal from the times we win it back.
We have perpetual motion where we kick it out of defensive 50, we're outmarked or it spills from the contest and we're chasing arse again.

McKay has to play up the ground. They also spoke about Freo. They go to a contest, ensure they're not outmarked and they set up to win the contested footy when it hits the deck. We don't have that aerial contest. Harry is soft as butter IMO but he gives a solid contest when he can launch at the ball. His link work for our defenders is quite good. And if he doesn't mark it, we're the best team at scoring from stoppage. Get a stop play. It's much better than our current situation of being outmarked or the ball spilling into space.

We have a strength. Capitalise on it. Don't try to be something you're structurally incapable of being. It's not like Harry is firing inside 50. He has been targeted 35 times inside forward 50 for 8 marks. And then his kicking is a lottery at best.
No wonder Hayward is getting frustrated. He was bought in as a hybrid forward and he's been targeted 4 times.
Get some connection up the ground and start getting it inside 50.
We're 15th in the AFL for inside 50's. Last year we were 5th. Get it in there. I don't give a @#$%&! if they kick it to grass or to space along the ground! At least create a contest. Gives the smalls a look. Mix it up.

You can't kick goals if you don't get it there.

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Ok, that's fair. What I'm getting at though is that it's a crap strength to have right now. I think other teams would accept break even in stoppage given their weapons lie elsewhere.

For me our weapon is not sustainable nor appropriate in the game as we see it now.

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What sort of list has Austin been trying to build?

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/07/24/ ... hree-teams

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I hear what you're say BH but the top 3 sides for clearances this year are the back to back premiers, Bulldogs (top of the ladder) and Freo. (4th on the ladder.
Being the best at scoring from clearance is a huge benefit IMO. But it can't be your only weapon.
Let's face it. McKay currently isn't providing any scoring ability inside 50. Push him up the ground, try to get more connection between our forward half and back half and we should see an improvement in scoring from ball movement. Add to our strengths. Don't try to remove them to build a different one.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

I mean, I would have Harry at CHB so perhaps in some odd way we agree.

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Congratulations CK95

100 per cent make the most of what you've got . We aint far away .

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Agenda Setters just showed some vision of our midfield's confusion on setup and structure. Players not knowing where to be and how to setup.
Embarrassing and again on coaches - just not sure what they train and discuss!!!