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The forgotten man Jack Carroll . Playing good football . Not sure why we got rid of this bloke coz he can really pin point a football . Beautiful kick of a football . Why did we get rid of him ?



Because we are a Dump Club that does not know how to develop their players properly and when given the chance to play, always playing them in the wrong Positions.


There would have been at least 5-6 players that we got rid of in the last 5 years that are now florishing at other Clubs!

And who's decision was it to dump them ? surely can't be Voss alone .


Its never a One man Decision but Voss is the Big Culprit. He has burnt off so many players. So many Senior players had an issue with him but we never questioned him. We threw all the blame on the players and accused them of having an attitude problem and that they didnt want to be there!

Weitering is next in line. Have you seen his body language this Season? Typical SOS & Charlie of last year. He doesn't want to be here anymore! He is checked out!


No Coach on Earth of any Football Code would be able to survive a 1-7 Start to the season, no matter whom it was and what team it is. ONLY happens at Carlton!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2026 12:30 pm 
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I have no doubt everyone involved with Carlton will want to win this game.
I have no doubt SOS and Lyon are desperate to beat us given the $2.5K they've spent to make us weaker.
I have no doubt this game will be TDKs and SOJ's will play like its a Final. May it well be. Final bye bye for those 2.

We have to win. Have to.

LIKELY INS IF FIT: McKay and Ollie, fingers crossed for Pitto.

POSSIBLE INS: Wilson, Hewett, Ison, Charleson, Cottrell, Saad, Acres, Boyd, F.Young

... F. Young missed the VFL game?

I am so looking forward to this game.
Dream come true to see Pitto vs TDK in a real game.
Vossy didn't sound confident in Pittos availability.
Please make it happen. Pitto will be champing at the bit.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2026 12:36 pm 
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Watching Carlton is like watching an Old Movie Week in Week out!

I have never seen a Club that is so consistant in its mistakes. Makes you wonder if Voss actually has any idea about Coaching all together!


2 Weeks a go: 5 Minutes of Maddness by N.Diacos and he killed us. 5 goals in 5 minutes. Game over

Last Week: 5 Minutes of Maddness by S.Bolton and he killed us. 4 Goals in 4 minutes. Gave over

This Week: Guess who is going to have his turn of 5 minutes maddness? NWM of course!


I would tag NWM.
MWM is the type of star you mention, add Gawn, Kysiah Pickett, Heeney, Gulden who have blown us away in 10 minutes.
We don't have one of those IMO. So who have we got that can go with NWM?

I don't think its a kid like Lord or Ollie, who have tried to tag super stars. Lord is Ok against Serong, but MWM is not Serong.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2026 12:37 pm 
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Nothing has changed & Nothing will change until the Board Decides to Get rid of Voss and make a Fresh Start....

The Issue is deeper than Voss. The Board themselves needs Sacking. Dump bunch of indiviuals who are all supposed to have leadership Skills Yet have not seen a slice of it yet.


Our President is Pathetic. He has not Said a Word since the Hollands Saga and never addressed the Members directly. What Kind of President is this?

Then you have the CEO who appeared to be reading from a Manscript given to him, and he just couldn't read it, or didn't want to read it. He didn't want to be there!

We are a mess of a Club, YET some Supporters still want to find excuses or kid themselves in believing that we are improving & that there is nothing wrong with what's happening.



Nothing pisses me off more than the Supporters who pumped up some of our new recruits, especially Reidy. He was made to be the Next Big thing in the off Season. Endless highights of him and how smart our recruiters were in getting him. Felt so sorry for him on the weekend, he got Slaughtered! He is no good.

Same goes with the others, Hayward, Ainsworth, Chesser & Florant. What have they given us so far? Nothing!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2026 1:02 pm 
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keogh wrote:
Dodo27 wrote:
Nothing has changed & Nothing will change until the Board Decides to Get rid of Voss and make a Fresh Start....

The Issue is deeper than Voss. The Board themselves needs Sacking. Dump bunch of indiviuals who are all supposed to have leadership Skills Yet have not seen a slice of it yet.


Our President is Pathetic. He has not Said a Word since the Hollands Saga and never addressed the Members directly. What Kind of President is this?

Then you have the CEO who appeared to be reading from a Manscript given to him, and he just couldn't read it, or didn't want to read it. He didn't want to be there!

We are a mess of a Club, YET some Supporters still want to find excuses or kid themselves in believing that we are improving & that there is nothing wrong with what's happening.



Nothing pisses me off more than the Supporters who pumped up some of our new recruits, especially Reidy. He was made to be the Next Big thing in the off Season. Endless highights of him and how smart our recruiters were in getting him. Felt so sorry for him on the weekend, he got Slaughtered! He is no good.

Same goes with the others, Hayward, Ainsworth, Chesser & Florant. What have they given us so far? Nothing!!!

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Nah with you


Discount preseason form. Can't argue with the facts.

I've seen a bit more than nothing from Ainsworth and Florent. Haywood last couple games, but nothing ground breaking.
I am starting to lean to the coach or his game plan don't best utilise the talent he has at his disposal.
Then I look at a kid like Carroll and compare output with all of the above, when it comes to excitement factor, flair, winning attributes, Carroll has them covered.

Sad to say, thus far, it has a 2003 Pagan recruitment feel about our 'bounty'. Not much in quality the from retreads.
At least back then we got Heath Scotland of the 4-5 retreads...and Andy walker as a Priority pick.

Yeah, current bounty only good ordinary players at best after 7 rounds. Not a single star among the 5 of them.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2026 1:06 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
keogh wrote:
Dodo27 wrote:
Nothing has changed & Nothing will change until the Board Decides to Get rid of Voss and make a Fresh Start....

The Issue is deeper than Voss. The Board themselves needs Sacking. Dump bunch of indiviuals who are all supposed to have leadership Skills Yet have not seen a slice of it yet.


Our President is Pathetic. He has not Said a Word since the Hollands Saga and never addressed the Members directly. What Kind of President is this?

Then you have the CEO who appeared to be reading from a Manscript given to him, and he just couldn't read it, or didn't want to read it. He didn't want to be there!

We are a mess of a Club, YET some Supporters still want to find excuses or kid themselves in believing that we are improving & that there is nothing wrong with what's happening.



Nothing pisses me off more than the Supporters who pumped up some of our new recruits, especially Reidy. He was made to be the Next Big thing in the off Season. Endless highights of him and how smart our recruiters were in getting him. Felt so sorry for him on the weekend, he got Slaughtered! He is no good.

Same goes with the others, Hayward, Ainsworth, Chesser & Florant. What have they given us so far? Nothing!!!

Hilarious
I thought I was too negative
Nah with you


Discount preseason form. Can't argue with the facts.

I've seen a bit more than nothing from Ainsworth and Florent. Haywood last couple games, but nothing ground breaking.
I am starting to lean to the coach or his game plan don't best utilise the talent he has at his disposal.
Then I look at a kid like Carroll and compare output with all of the above, when it comes to excitement factor, flair, winning attributes, Carroll has them covered.

Sad to say, thus far, it has a 2003 Pagan recruitment feel about our 'bounty'. Not much in quality the from retreads.
At least back then we got Heath Scotland of the 4-5 retreads...and Andy walker as a Priority pick.

Yeah, current bounty only good ordinary players at best after 7 rounds. Not a single star among the 5 of them.


Well, this is what I said Pre-Season.

I said they were all Good Average players. They looked good at their former clubs because of whom they were surrounded with. They are good when feeding off Great players.

At Carlton, they have to do the work themselves. They just Can't. Limited Talant & Ability.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2026 1:09 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Dodo27 wrote:
Watching Carlton is like watching an Old Movie Week in Week out!

I have never seen a Club that is so consistant in its mistakes. Makes you wonder if Voss actually has any idea about Coaching all together!


2 Weeks a go: 5 Minutes of Maddness by N.Diacos and he killed us. 5 goals in 5 minutes. Game over

Last Week: 5 Minutes of Maddness by S.Bolton and he killed us. 4 Goals in 4 minutes. Gave over

This Week: Guess who is going to have his turn of 5 minutes maddness? NWM of course!


I would tag NWM.
MWM is the type of star you mention, add Gawn, Kysiah Pickett, Heeney, Gulden who have blown us away in 10 minutes.
We don't have one of those IMO. So who have we got that can go with NWM?

I don't think its a kid like Lord or Ollie, who have tried to tag super stars. Lord is Ok against Serong, but MWM is not Serong.


We just don't have any players on our list that can run with him!

I would have given the job to Hewett or Cerra and said Tag him like a Glue all Game, but he will burn them off easily.

Maybe Cottrell? or Acres?

The Actual Solution: Voss will do nothing. He will be allowed to run rite!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2026 1:41 pm 
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Dodo27 wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
The forgotten man Jack Carroll . Playing good football . Not sure why we got rid of this bloke coz he can really pin point a football . Beautiful kick of a football . Why did we get rid of him ?



Because we are a Dump Club that does not know how to develop their players properly and when given the chance to play, always playing them in the wrong Positions.


There would have been at least 5-6 players that we got rid of in the last 5 years that are now florishing at other Clubs!


Compared to how many who have done sweet FA? It can be hard to keep count because most don't appear on weekly team sheets, but St Kilda took a fair chunk. Congrats to SOS for finally getting one provisionally right.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2026 2:04 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
Dodo27 wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
The forgotten man Jack Carroll . Playing good football . Not sure why we got rid of this bloke coz he can really pin point a football . Beautiful kick of a football . Why did we get rid of him ?



Because we are a Dump Club that does not know how to develop their players properly and when given the chance to play, always playing them in the wrong Positions.


There would have been at least 5-6 players that we got rid of in the last 5 years that are now florishing at other Clubs!


Compared to how many who have done sweet FA? It can be hard to keep count because most don't appear on weekly team sheets, but St Kilda took a fair chunk. Congrats to SOS for finally getting one provisionally right.


Carroll is another good ordinary player. He had plenty flaws. Still does. Saints are not that good.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2026 2:06 pm 
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Dodo27 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Dodo27 wrote:
Watching Carlton is like watching an Old Movie Week in Week out!

I have never seen a Club that is so consistant in its mistakes. Makes you wonder if Voss actually has any idea about Coaching all together!


2 Weeks a go: 5 Minutes of Maddness by N.Diacos and he killed us. 5 goals in 5 minutes. Game over

Last Week: 5 Minutes of Maddness by S.Bolton and he killed us. 4 Goals in 4 minutes. Gave over

This Week: Guess who is going to have his turn of 5 minutes maddness? NWM of course!


I would tag NWM.
MWM is the type of star you mention, add Gawn, Kysiah Pickett, Heeney, Gulden who have blown us away in 10 minutes.
We don't have one of those IMO. So who have we got that can go with NWM?

I don't think its a kid like Lord or Ollie, who have tried to tag super stars. Lord is Ok against Serong, but MWM is not Serong.


We just don't have any players on our list that can run with him!

I would have given the job to Hewett or Cerra and said Tag him like a Glue all Game, but he will burn them off easily.

Maybe Cottrell? or Acres?

The Actual Solution: Voss will do nothing. He will be allowed to run rite!


Was thinking the same players with pace to keep up (leaves Hewett out).
I'd prefer Hewett in the guts and Cripps.....FF/ rotate mid with Hewett (when Hewett tires)

I want to win this game.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2026 2:16 pm 
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Not sure Ollie should come straight back in, I'd go Wilson before Ollie at this stage.
Cripps to have a rest, bring in Hewett.
F Young for Byrne however I think Byrne might be better suited at Marvel and Young at the G
McKay for L Young but H doesn't like to ruck


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2026 2:39 pm 
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No way Cripps would be rested for a match with such high grudge factor. I mean, we'd never have the balls to "manage" our captain in any event, but especially not this week.


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In McKay, Hewitt, Wilson, Ison, Pitto( if fit)
Out Moir, Byrne, Cerra, Cowan or Dean, Reidy or Young(if Pitto fit)

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2026 8:34 pm 
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If I was Voss, I would keep Moir in the Side plus bring back Harry.

Hewett & Acres & Saad are wasting their time in the 2's. They are bloody Senior players who will make the team better and might just give us a Win we so desperately need.

Voss does not reward Form. He has his Favorites that he keeps at all Cost ( Young & Cowan).


The Byrne Experiment is Over. Good Kid but not ready for AFL Yet. Needs some time. Bring Ison and let's see what he can do. also bring Young and let them play together as our Smalls. Wilson needs to be rewarded. Time for Cowan to have a Spell.

I keep saying bring him and bring that, the reality is, Voss does not like making any changes. He will go unchanged unless through Injury!


No Game Integrity what so ever!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2026 9:16 pm 
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If I was Voss, I would keep Moir in the Side plus bring back Harry.



If I was Voss, I'd drop Moir for Flynn Young and leave Harry out. For the first time this year we've had a balanced scoring profile and our turnover game was in reasonable shape. Going back to the Harrycentric forward line may well unravel it.
Moir is lazy and won't be playing AFL footy in 2 years unless he has a big change in attitude.

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One thing Moir has got is the fact that the couple of times he touches the ball in forward 50,he tends to kick it pretty well.

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he's a beautiful kick. imagine if he tried as much as owies did.


hard work beats talent etc etc


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Blue Vain wrote:
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If I was Voss, I would keep Moir in the Side plus bring back Harry.



If I was Voss, I'd drop Moir for Flynn Young and leave Harry out. For the first time this year we've had a balanced scoring profile and our turnover game was in reasonable shape. Going back to the Harrycentric forward line may well unravel it.
Moir is lazy and won't be playing AFL footy in 2 years unless he has a big change in attitude.

Yep, agree with those thoughts re Moir. He has plenty of talent, but doesn’t work hard enough and doesn’t show enough intensity.


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In: Harry, OHollands, Boyd, FYoung
Out: Moir, Cottrell, Weitering (managed), Byrne

Newman Young Haynes
Florent Dean Cowan
OHollands Cripps Carroll
Williams McKay Hayward
McGovern Kemp Ainsworth
Reidy Cerra Walsh
Lord, Smith, Boyd, Evans, FYoung


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Dodo27 wrote:
Watching Carlton is like watching an Old Movie Week in Week out!

I have never seen a Club that is so consistant in its mistakes. Makes you wonder if Voss actually has any idea about Coaching all together!


2 Weeks a go: 5 Minutes of Maddness by N.Diacos and he killed us. 5 goals in 5 minutes. Game over

Last Week: 5 Minutes of Maddness by S.Bolton and he killed us. 4 Goals in 4 minutes. Gave over

This Week: Guess who is going to have his turn of 5 minutes maddness? NWM of course!



And how many pemierships of their 3 did Dustin Martin win for Richmond. Without him they probably wouldn't have won any (IMO). That's what the best players do and at the moment we do not have any players who can turn the game single handedly.


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