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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 5:31 pm 
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These changes limit bottom teams with FS or Academies to trade for quality. This year it would be someone like Butters and not that he would want to come to us but our hands would be tied and everyone would know it. Having top kids you need to bid on with top picks also restricts your dealing. GC got in well last year………smart operators.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 6:58 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
carntheblues wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
malbi wrote:
These are our 17 oldest players (born last millennium) and their final contract years. We will have to orchestrate their exodus over the next few years and look at replacements.

It is interesting that only 4 of them are home grown. Is this one of the reasons why we are having problems? Most of them moved clubs for opportunities. Do they have their heart in it? Are the home grown players overwhelmed?

Haynes 33 (2026)
Newman 33 (2026)
Saad 31 (2026)
Williams 31 (2026)
McGovern 31 (2026)
Cripps 31 (2027) *
Acres 30 (2027)
Hewitt 30 (2027)
Pittonet 29 (2027)
Weitering 28 (2031) *
McKay 28 (2030) *
Ainsworth 28 (2029)
Florent 27 (2030)
Boyd 27 (2026) *
Hayward 27 (2030)
L Young 27 (2026)
Fogarty 27 (2026)

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Haynes 33 (2026) - Dean
Newman 33 (2026) - Charleson
Saad 31 (2026) - Wilson
Williams 31 (2026) - Smith
McGovern 31 (2026) - Kemp
Cripps 31 (2027) * - Walker
Acres 30 (2027) - L Campo
Hewitt 30 (2027) - Lord/ B Campo
Pittonet 29 (2027) - ??
Weitering 28 (2031) * - HoF
McKay 28 (2030) * - HoK?
Ainsworth 28 (2029) - Byrne
Florent 27 (2030) - Carroll
Boyd 27 (2026) * - Cowan/ Monohan
Hayward 27 (2030) - Ison
L Young 27 (2026) - ??
Fogarty 27 (2026) - F Young / Moir

If you do a quick succession plan it's clear our problems are rucks, tall forwards and tall defenders.


Re Last line. Yep.

Seems like a no brainer to go after a No 1 Ruck, No 1 KPF, No 1 Mid-Fwd. This Year!!
If OKeefe doesn't turn into a good Fwd-Ruck, then we need one of them too. Has to be mobile and springy....then we need depth.

We are not too far off, but finding the missing high end players are the big challenge.

We will have to Trade out whatever we have left after walker picks so we can start to fill these spots in 2027. Huge task.

But we do have 2 first round picks for the next 3 drafts which does improve our trading position. What that means in reality only time will tell.


Next 2 drafts. We used two for Dean in 2025 (Carlton & Sydney)

2026 R1 Carlton .... Walker FS
2026 R1 Sydney
2026 R2 North
2026 R2 GCS
2026 R3 Bris


2027 R1 Carlton
2027 R1 Sydney
2027 R2 Carlton

2027 R3 Carlton...Scotland FS
2027 R4 Carlton...Abdullah NGA

2028 R1 Carlton
2028 R2 Carlton... Kouta.L FS
2028 R3 Carlton ... Lovett-Murray NGA
There is also Arli Walker in 2029 I believe.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 7:31 pm 
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With the new drafting for father son and nga players in now the best thing for Carlton in to come last and use the first pick on Dougie Cochrane that way port will match our bid which will trigger a second round compensation pick for us


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 8:26 pm 
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Farcical. The AFL has encouraged the bottom clubs to cannibalise other bottom clubs by offering additional draft picks as an incentive. Even if they didn't rate Walker and Cochrane as the 2 best players, they would be derelict in their duties by not bidding on them.
Greg Swann has confirmed what most already knew. Narcissistic shit bloke.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 8:28 pm 
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With the new drafting for father son and nga players in now the best thing for Carlton in to come last and use the first pick on Dougie Cochrane that way port will match our bid which will trigger a second round compensation pick for us
Lol that would be @#$%&! hilarious.

Stick it right up the AFL.

I would feel bad for Port though.

What's more likely to happen is that Richmond finish bottom and bid on Cody. cauliflower.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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Farcical. The AFL has encouraged the bottom clubs to cannibalise other bottom clubs by offering additional draft picks as an incentive. Even if they didn't rate Walker and Cochrane as the 2 best players, they would be derelict in their duties by not bidding on them.
Greg Swann has confirmed what most already knew. Narcissistic shit bloke.


Been saying that about Swann for years and have been howled down . The mutt has only been at the AFL for a short time and as hard as it is to believe he is actually making it worse . Dead set wrecking ball .

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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Mickstar wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Farcical. The AFL has encouraged the bottom clubs to cannibalise other bottom clubs by offering additional draft picks as an incentive. Even if they didn't rate Walker and Cochrane as the 2 best players, they would be derelict in their duties by not bidding on them.
Greg Swann has confirmed what most already knew. Narcissistic shit bloke.


Been saying that about Swann for years and have been howled down . The mutt has only been at the AFL for a short time and as hard as it is to believe he is actually making it worse . Dead set wrecking ball .

Well I'm on board with you Mick and BV.
This is just a F$%^ up ontop of a F#$#% up pretending to fix it.


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 Post subject: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 9:17 pm 
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Let's not forget st Kilda's hand in this

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 Post subject: List Management 2026
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How much does AFL just suck at the moment.

The whole product just stinks.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 10:08 pm 
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Let’s say we finish 15 or 16

What do we give up to get Cody assuming there is an early bid.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 10:16 pm 
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Let’s say we finish 15 or 16

What do we give up to get Cody assuming there is an early bid.

That pick, plus a good chunk, if not all, of the next one.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 10:34 pm 
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missnaut wrote:
How much does AFL just suck at the moment.

The whole product just stinks.



the whole thing is a clusterfck, tbh... i don't even know which is worse. the onfield product or the geese running the show off of it.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 11:30 am 
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Keithy wrote:
With the new drafting for father son and nga players in now the best thing for Carlton in to come last and use the first pick on Dougie Cochrane that way port will match our bid which will trigger a second round compensation pick for us


What a farce this new Draft rule is. Fancy encouraging Tanking. Everything about this is wrong. Swann wants to be a hero. Instead, typical of those in the AFL Commission, he has blood on his hands.

Only half of the Presidents backed the changes. How did this go through to the keeper.

Lick of Ice cream .... what a dick. He counted the Campo twins at pick 43 and 53.

Dean cost us two firsts last year. Walker will cost us two firsts plus some. Unproven players.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 11:37 am 
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CK95 wrote:
Let's not forget st Kilda's hand in this

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Bassat whinges about Pies, GCS and Brizzy milking the system and the Draft is turned upside down, encouraging tanking.

Hardwick complains about Cripps spun 360 and getting a HB away, and the holding the ball decision becomes even more confusing, penalising Cripps and walsh for showing strength and great play to get the ball away, whilst we continue to see players spun 360 in a tackle and called play on.

Game just keeps getting worse. Umpiring keeps getting worse. Fans are left confused and frustrated.

I've stopped watching other games from start to finish. Too frustrating to watch the inconsistencies. Footy was much easier in the 60's- 90's. WTF happened after that? Oh yeah Carlton hating Commissioners took the game away from the people and made it their game of vendettas: Demetriou and Evans you have a lot to answer for. Swann, youre a goose!

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 11:45 am 
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Crusader wrote:
Rod Waddell wrote:
Let’s say we finish 15 or 16

What do we give up to get Cody assuming there is an early bid.

That pick, plus a good chunk, if not all, of the next one.


If we have pick 3 or 4 and (Tigers, WCE, Bumbers are) bottom of ladder, they will pick Walker and Cochrane pick 1 and 2 because they are encourage to, to get an extra pick.

We give up Pick 15/16, then the points required to make up the points for pick 1/2 cannot be made up by the Swans first round pick (which at the time is pick 16-18) which we have. Then we go into deficit.

Goes against the spirit of the Draft and effort to avoid Tanking in the last 12 games of the H&A.

Appeal. Lets see what Preistley and his Board are made of. Lie down and take the hits, or fight City Hall?

Appeal!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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If the AFL Commission play the bully game they are known for, and threaten to fine us for the unfortunate Holland situation created by the economics of the soft cap, then Appeal that too!!!!

Sick of being the AFL's punching bag.
25 years of it and I'm sick and tired of it.

Appeal for your supporters.
Make the AFL accountable.
Swann needs that smirk wiped off his face.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 12:05 pm 
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Preistey's letter to Members

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While our club has agreed that working towards adjusting access to father son and NGA talent was necessary over the long term to ensure a more equitable system, our club’s position has been absolutely clear that for any proposed rule changes, they had to come with an appropriate runway so as not to disadvantage specific clubs.

Part of the clear case we put forward was that the AFL had to allow all clubs to properly plan and prepare for any changes to draft rules, in order to provide the same runway that previous clubs have been afforded, and as a result, have significantly benefited from.

This was the only appropriate and truly equitable way to implement such changes however today’s discretionary decision by the AFL has gone against this, with full knowledge that it will disadvantage certain clubs more than others, which no AFL rule change should.


So, we all agree the AFL has completely dismissed any of Carlton's views on changes to the Draft. We all agree the AFL has not treated us fairly with this. We all agree the clubs who were allowed to milk the Draft with latter picks, will continue with that advantage over teams who havent the same opportunity to replenish their lists.

What are we doing about it?

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Despite the lack of an appropriate runway for such rule changes, through discussion and consultation we have seen the 10% discount retained for all clubs that do not make the top 10.

Irrespective, our club has put itself in a strong position as it relates to our upcoming father son and NGA talent considerations.


Nothing.

Accepting that the AFL chooses to completely ignore the requests for fairness of its treatment of Carlton, and accepts the disadvantage the AFL has enforced on Carlton.

Spin it however you like Preistly, but imo, you have given up on the club's right to defend its position in a court of law.

This is a farce. Farcical from our President and Board as a response, and farcical the size of the runway AFL has offered the competition for 2026.

In any man's language the AFL have been too late in making a call at the end of April for this November's Draft. That doesn't need explanation.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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bondiblue wrote:
If the AFL Commission play the bully game they are known for, and threaten to fine us for the unfortunate Holland situation created by the economics of the soft cap, then Appeal that too!!!!

Sick of being the AFL's punching bag.
25 years of it and I'm sick and tired of it.

Appeal for your supporters.
Make the AFL accountable.
Swann needs that smirk wiped off his face.

Yes , Swann is the classic case of poacher turned into the gamekeeper .

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 1:15 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Preistey's letter to Members

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While our club has agreed that working towards adjusting access to father son and NGA talent was necessary over the long term to ensure a more equitable system, our club’s position has been absolutely clear that for any proposed rule changes, they had to come with an appropriate runway so as not to disadvantage specific clubs.

Part of the clear case we put forward was that the AFL had to allow all clubs to properly plan and prepare for any changes to draft rules, in order to provide the same runway that previous clubs have been afforded, and as a result, have significantly benefited from.

This was the only appropriate and truly equitable way to implement such changes however today’s discretionary decision by the AFL has gone against this, with full knowledge that it will disadvantage certain clubs more than others, which no AFL rule change should.


So, we all agree the AFL has completely dismissed any of Carlton's views on changes to the Draft. We all agree the AFL has not treated us fairly with this. We all agree the clubs who were allowed to milk the Draft with latter picks, will continue with that advantage over teams who havent the same opportunity to replenish their lists.

What are we doing about it?

Quote:
Despite the lack of an appropriate runway for such rule changes, through discussion and consultation we have seen the 10% discount retained for all clubs that do not make the top 10.

Irrespective, our club has put itself in a strong position as it relates to our upcoming father son and NGA talent considerations.


Nothing.

Accepting that the AFL chooses to completely ignore the requests for fairness of its treatment of Carlton, and accepts the disadvantage the AFL has enforced on Carlton.

Spin it however you like Preistly, but imo, you have given up on the club's right to defend its position in a court of law.

This is a farce. Farcical from our President and Board as a response, and farcical the size of the runway AFL has offered the competition for 2026.

In any man's language the AFL have been too late in making a call at the end of April for this November's Draft. That doesn't need explanation.

Priestley has got too many problems retrieving the Saudis money to be tied up in courtrooms over footy.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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Mickstar wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
If the AFL Commission play the bully game they are known for, and threaten to fine us for the unfortunate Holland situation created by the economics of the soft cap, then Appeal that too!!!!

Sick of being the AFL's punching bag.
25 years of it and I'm sick and tired of it.

Appeal for your supporters.
Make the AFL accountable.
Swann needs that smirk wiped off his face.

Yes , Swann is the classic case of poacher turned into the gamekeeper .


Ooh, I like that one. That or ladder-puller.


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