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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 1:24 pm 
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This seems like the most logical choice and is probably close to what we will do.
NMW is still the concern for me as too Sinclair.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 1:29 pm 
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The Saints will try to free up Wilkie.

Please don't bomb the ball to Wilkie.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 1:42 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
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Yeah , well put Sidey . Talent wise Ainsworth and Hayward are better footballers than Cottrell for sure . Its just me , something about Cottrell I like . Mind you , I'm the only one in the family that does . My two sons reckon he should have been delisted two years ago .


Cottrell is asked to do roles others can't. He's a running machine. He fills spaces others struggle to get to. He burns off opponents back. I am not surprised his hard running isnt rewarded. We can't hit the side of a barn door. We don't take advantage of him imo because of a lack of bravado or skill or both. But I'm just guessing. Only Vossy and Cottrell know the truth.

I love Cotts. David King loves him too.


You love Cotts Bondi ? geez , I thought I was the only one . Good point you make about hard running to spots others struggle to get to .


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 1:46 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Yeah , well put Sidey . Talent wise Ainsworth and Hayward are better footballers than Cottrell for sure . Its just me , something about Cottrell I like . Mind you , I'm the only one in the family that does . My two sons reckon he should have been delisted two years ago .


Cottrell is asked to do roles others can't. He's a running machine. He fills spaces others struggle to get to. He burns off opponents back. I am not surprised his hard running isnt rewarded. We can't hit the side of a barn door. We don't take advantage of him imo because of a lack of bravado or skill or both. But I'm just guessing. Only Vossy and Cottrell know the truth.

I love Cotts. David King loves him too.


You love Cotts Bondi ? geez , I thought I was the only one . Good point you make about hard running to spots others struggle to get to .


+1 Cotterphile over here


Plenty of supporters like what he brings to the table. Pity a lot of supporters read the stats before judging the player and his role. I recall Franchina would end up with 3 disposals for the game, yet be one of our best on ground and pulled votes in the BnFs.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 1:50 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Yeah , well put Sidey . Talent wise Ainsworth and Hayward are better footballers than Cottrell for sure . Its just me , something about Cottrell I like . Mind you , I'm the only one in the family that does . My two sons reckon he should have been delisted two years ago .


Cottrell is asked to do roles others can't. He's a running machine. He fills spaces others struggle to get to. He burns off opponents back. I am not surprised his hard running isnt rewarded. We can't hit the side of a barn door. We don't take advantage of him imo because of a lack of bravado or skill or both. But I'm just guessing. Only Vossy and Cottrell know the truth.

I love Cotts. David King loves him too.


You love Cotts Bondi ? geez , I thought I was the only one . Good point you make about hard running to spots others struggle to get to .


+1 Cotterphile over here


I have been on the Cotters wagon for a while and we certainly miss him when not playing.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 2:43 pm 
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We'll get a better idea this week on how much personnel impacts game style.
We're 3rd worst team in the AFL for scoring from turnover and our opponents average 22.4 points more than us per game from turnover.
Last week was a significant difference. We scored 50% more off turnover than our average. It was actually accuracy from stoppage that cost us. Against the 3rd best turnover team in the AFL we scored 58 points from turnover.

That is where we can get the Saints. They are a reasonable side at scoring from stoppage (36 points per game) but we are better. (40 points).
Are we getting our act together at scoring from turnover or was last week an anomaly? If we can replicate last weeks profile, we can take them.
The interesting aspect will be to see how much our forward structure determines game style. Our Defensive 50 to score percentage was 20%. (Double the AFL average, we're usually 7.2, the 2nd worse in the AFL). Our defensive 50 to forward 50 percentage was 26.7%. (it's usually 18.6)

So either we got our turnover game going for whatever reason, or our forward structure worked far better. Once the ball was in our forward 50, Freo were only able to transition to score 5% of the time. (half the AFL average)
Personally, I think it's because the structure was better. More mobile, better pressure on the deck and less predictable to the opposition.
The interesting aspect is how McKay's inclusion changes that. Personally, I'd give him another week off. Let's see if it was the structure that worked in our favour.

He's averaging the second most offensive 1v1's in the AFL so it's not like he's not receiving opportunities, but he isn't in the top 100 in the AFL for scoreboard impact. He's not in the top 50 for goals, not in the top 100 for score assists, not in the top 100 for score involvements, nowhere to be seen for score assists.
So his form won't be missed IMHO.

Our best performance of the year IMHO was when Harry was out. Our turnover game which has been our achilles heel was a best for quite a while. Our ability to prevent the opposition transitioning from our forward line to score was excellent. Was it personnel or was it something else? There's one way to find out. The coaches won't do it but I'd love to see them try.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 3:14 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
We'll get a better idea this week on how much personnel impacts game style.
We're 3rd worst team in the AFL for scoring from turnover and our opponents average 22.4 points more than us per game from turnover.
Last week was a significant difference. We scored 50% more off turnover than our average. It was actually accuracy from stoppage that cost us. Against the 3rd best turnover team in the AFL we scored 58 points from turnover.

That is where we can get the Saints. They are a reasonable side at scoring from stoppage (36 points per game) but we are better. (40 points).
Are we getting our act together at scoring from turnover or was last week an anomaly? If we can replicate last weeks profile, we can take them.
The interesting aspect will be to see how much our forward structure determines game style. Our Defensive 50 to score percentage was 20%. (Double the AFL average, we're usually 7.2, the 2nd worse in the AFL). Our defensive 50 to forward 50 percentage was 26.7%. (it's usually 18.6)

So either we got our turnover game going for whatever reason, or our forward structure worked far better. Once the ball was in our forward 50, Freo were only able to transition to score 5% of the time. (half the AFL average)
Personally, I think it's because the structure was better. More mobile, better pressure on the deck and less predictable to the opposition.
The interesting aspect is how McKay's inclusion changes that. Personally, I'd give him another week off. Let's see if it was the structure that worked in our favour.

He's averaging the second most offensive 1v1's in the AFL so it's not like he's not receiving opportunities, but he isn't in the top 100 in the AFL for scoreboard impact. He's not in the top 50 for goals, not in the top 100 for score assists, not in the top 100 for score involvements, nowhere to be seen for score assists.
So his form won't be missed IMHO.

Our best performance of the year IMHO was when Harry was out. Our turnover game which has been our achilles heel was a best for quite a while. Our ability to prevent the opposition transitioning from our forward line to score was excellent. Was it personnel or was it something else? There's one way to find out. The coaches won't do it but I'd love to see them try.


Geez , those stats are a bit of a tail of the tape . Measurements . If we can carry over that Freo form to this week PLUS Harry reverses his form and has a day out we would be in with a big show . Come on Harry , LIFT .

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 3:45 pm 
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Before teams are announced...

I expect

Wilson > Byrne
Pitto > Young ..... feel Reidy will be picked to punish TDK/Marshall and match 2 genuine rucks
McKay > Moir ....reverse last weeks selections
O.Hollands > Cottrell ... reverse last weeks selections

For me I would select the former of the two

Hewett vs Lord
Cottrell vs Evans

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 3:56 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
We'll get a better idea this week on how much personnel impacts game style.
We're 3rd worst team in the AFL for scoring from turnover and our opponents average 22.4 points more than us per game from turnover.
Last week was a significant difference. We scored 50% more off turnover than our average. It was actually accuracy from stoppage that cost us. Against the 3rd best turnover team in the AFL we scored 58 points from turnover.

That is where we can get the Saints. They are a reasonable side at scoring from stoppage (36 points per game) but we are better. (40 points).
Are we getting our act together at scoring from turnover or was last week an anomaly? If we can replicate last weeks profile, we can take them.
The interesting aspect will be to see how much our forward structure determines game style. Our Defensive 50 to score percentage was 20%. (Double the AFL average, we're usually 7.2, the 2nd worse in the AFL). Our defensive 50 to forward 50 percentage was 26.7%. (it's usually 18.6)

So either we got our turnover game going for whatever reason, or our forward structure worked far better. Once the ball was in our forward 50, Freo were only able to transition to score 5% of the time. (half the AFL average)
Personally, I think it's because the structure was better. More mobile, better pressure on the deck and less predictable to the opposition.
The interesting aspect is how McKay's inclusion changes that. Personally, I'd give him another week off. Let's see if it was the structure that worked in our favour.

He's averaging the second most offensive 1v1's in the AFL so it's not like he's not receiving opportunities, but he isn't in the top 100 in the AFL for scoreboard impact. He's not in the top 50 for goals, not in the top 100 for score assists, not in the top 100 for score involvements, nowhere to be seen for score assists.
So his form won't be missed IMHO.

Our best performance of the year IMHO was when Harry was out. Our turnover game which has been our achilles heel was a best for quite a while. Our ability to prevent the opposition transitioning from our forward line to score was excellent. Was it personnel or was it something else? There's one way to find out. The coaches won't do it but I'd love to see them try.


As I was reading this analysis of our returns I came to similar conclusions:

Turnover game: Why has this improved in last two weeks.
Inaccuracy kills us...last week killed goals from Stoppage
Our improved mobility in the forward line must have come from Harry's absence.
Our pressure in our forward line came from our improved forward line mobility.

Harry will be selected.
Will we go with 2 genuine rucks vs 2 genuine rucks? or...
I wonder if Harry will be our 2nd ruck when Pitto needs a chop out?
I don't like it, but based on our improved mobility, missing Harry for 10 mins per quarter does give us a different look.
Possibly leaving out Reidy and Young makes us more mobile.

Whatever, we have to win this week !!!
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Because keogh likes TDK and SOS.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 3:58 pm 
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Lord to tag NWM in the CB
NWMs opponent has to try and be a threat to score

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 4:56 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Pitto > Young ..... feel Reidy will be picked to punish TDK/Marshall and match 2 genuine rucks


I wouldn’t lose any sleep at the thought of Young against De Koning in the ruck.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 5:17 pm 
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Crusader wrote:
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Pitto > Young ..... feel Reidy will be picked to punish TDK/Marshall and match 2 genuine rucks


I wouldn’t lose any sleep at the thought of Young against De Koning in the ruck.



I like the idea of Pitto softening up TDK for 20 mins, like he use to do for TDK, then continue qith the physicality from Reidy, and Reidy has the body weight to go with Marshall.

Its not TDK I'm worried about vs Young. Its Young vs Marshall.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 5:28 pm 
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I want to win this game. Badly!




That's generally how we win yes



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 5:29 pm 
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Have no doubt this game will be lost at the selection table
Voss and selectors to gutless to make tough calls
Surely some players must be dropped for players performing in the VFL


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Cottrell was wheeled out this week to talk about being back. I don't think he'll be dropped.

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IN: Adam Saad, Oliver Hollands, Harry McKay, Marc Pittonet
OUT: Cooper Lord (Omitted), Ashton Moir (Omitted), Talor Byrne (Omitted), Lewis Young (Omitted)

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 7:07 pm 
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Saad for Lord. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 7:43 pm 
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i agree with all ins and outs aside from lord and saad. i dont quite understand that one

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 7:47 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:

I want to win this game. Badly!




That's generally how we win yes


:lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2026 8:22 pm 
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As Expected, Rewarding Good Form in the VFL means nothing to Voss. This is just how you know when a footy Club has no Integrity and no Clue.... no wonder We can't Win Games anymore!


Hewett should request a Trade end of Season, so should Young & Wilson.

Why the hell did you Drop Lord? he had an OK Game last week. Guys like him need to stay in the Side full time. He is the Future!

What's even more laughable is that Voss Drops his Pin up boy- Young. Couldnt believe my eyes... Full Credit to Vossy....


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