giving up an other 50+ point quarter has to be it. espesh to the freaking saints.

Vloss and co. have built a list for bomb, bomb, bomb.

In 2026... one third of the game plan seems disinterested down back, the second third got old and no longer in Brownlow form, and the final third in now at the Swans.

The game has changed and the list is unable to adjust.

People praised the club for not parting ways... but this gap year will hurt.

_________________
“I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.” ― Richard Feynman

Yep. The opposition let us do what we want in the first half of games, then the players are all caught out how bad they are. Just replace them all.

We need to finish low enough so we don’t get reamed too much for recruiting Walker, so we keep Voss for now.

As Keogh says, changing the coach is useless, it’s the board that has to change, and the players.

_________________
"I said I'd tell you the truth. Didn't say you'd like it." - Finch

Swamp
@sirswampthing

Sides losing games after leading at half time since the start of 2025

1x: GWS HAW RICH
2x: FREM GCS
3x: ADEL ESS GEEL MELB NTH WBD
4x: COLL STK SYD
5x: BRIS PORT
6x
7x: WCE
8x
9x
10x
11x: CARL

#AFLBluesSaints @AFL

_________________
"I said I'd tell you the truth. Didn't say you'd like it." - Finch

Our inability to punish turnover in the first half cost us a 5 goal lead. Indecision and inability to execute.

_________________
Congratulations CK95

Yep.
Missed goals is bad business.

He’s going down in history.

I wonder what our scoring accuracy in second halves vs first halves is? We seem to have no problem kicking points in second halves.

Edit:

The drop-off from first half to second half is 6.22 percentage points in 2025 and 9.97 percentage points in 2026. Carlton are also taking fewer shots after halftime — 239 vs 265 in 2025 and 77 vs 83 in 2026 — meaning the team is both creating less and finishing worse as games wear on. 55% to 45% accuracy in 2026.

Guys
It's not Voss
It's not his fault
Sacking him won't help
We need stability
We've turned a corner
It's starting to click
We were always going to lose this year
Stop blaming vossy
He's perfect
Oh yeah and something about Cody and tanking
/rinse
/repeat

We'll own this one.

Sent from my SM-S931B using Tapatalk

_________________
Jagga

Won 13 of our last 41. Year 5.

_________________
We are on our way back...

We most probably won’t win another game before the long break, perhaps only game one may be looking forward to is against the Bombers and even then it’s a 50/50 at best.
Reckon Voss will be shown the door during the lobreak.
We need to begin flushing out the negativity and gradually begin to resetting the mindset.
It will take a season or two the heal the scars of the last 2 decades.

_________________
Go Blue Boys

To all those who hysterically reacted to my “forcibly removed” post earlier in the week. Please, take a chill pill.

On reflection, yes the words could’ve been different and it can be interpreted rather aggressively.

I was not for one second suggesting anything like a lynch mob or trying to incite anything.

The point I was trying to make, albeit ordinarily, is that this guy is stubborn and has continually doubled and tripled down on his outdated and ineffective game plan. He’s destroyed players’ confidence, allowed supremely talented players to leave and there are signs already he’s doing the same with the new crop of youngsters - Jagga and Lord, Flynn Young and Wilson etc.

What I meant to say is, he needs to be tapped on the shoulder and told, your time is up. He’s not going to change. He’s not going to sacrifice anything or adapt for the greater good. There’s a massive sample size not just at Carlton but also as a coach at Brisbane. He rubs people up the wrong way, gets players offside, uses word salads like a politician to deflect and obfuscate the glaring issues. It’s amazing that the media has let him get away with it for so long.

He’s one of those people you see in corporate roles who has the gift of the gab to bamboozle you in the moment, and when you escape the trance, you realise…hang on second? But it’s too late, and the cycle continues.

So he needs to be relieved of his duties. GW, you screwed up badly keeping him on. Somehow, you have a second chance here to salvage something, there’s still two thirds of the season to go!

Pull. The. Trigger. NOW.

Or for shits and giggles, let him go to Brisbane and cop an absolute hiding and do it then, it would be fitting that the club he destroyed for a decade is the one that seals his fate once and for all.

IMO the rule changes have played with everyone's minds. Voss stubbornness to adapt or change has also affected the group.
Mentally they don't believe in themselves or the game plan any longer. Hence, they give up when the opposition has the run on, they know they have no answers (doubling down in defending isn't the fix and how many times can he say it). No belief.
The new coach will have a hell of a time to get them believing in themselves.

Yeah, it's definitely a bit of column A and bit of column B.

Changing the rules when we were flying - and please let's drop the revisionist line that 2023 PF was a fluke, it was in the middle of a run of 22 wins in 28 - was grossly unfair, and when you add it to all the other changes that just happened to stuff Carlton over most everyone else, it's hard to escape the suspicion that club bias in the league boardrooms is rife. After all, even those who say it's all Voss and/or the Carlton board's fault will happily call the AFL the most corrupt sporting organisation in the world - worse than FIFA, one poster said!! Imagine! - when discussing them in a non-Carlton context.

BUT, at the same time, great coaches build resilience in their group. Alex Ferguson was famous for his siege mentality, even though it was based on imaginary foes. Jurgen Klopp waged an 8-year war against English referees. Both managers' teams came out breathing fire and won European titles through extraordinary feats of mentality - Man U turning a 90th minute 0-1 deficit into a 2-1 Champions League final victory (shudder, vomit). Liverpool going into the second leg of a CL semi final down 0-3 to Barcelona with peak Messi , Neymar and Suarez, and Mo Salah out injured for the Reds, and winning 4-0. Voss has clearly failed in this regard. First half in Saints people on this board were beaming at the sight of us lowering the eyes and hitting targets. Start of the 3rd and we're dominating still, but we kick 3 or 4 behinds in a row, and the mental demons take over yet again. The team spirit is shot to pieces.

If Vossy gets sacked he would have a fairly good unfair dismissal case.

No one is going to tell me that JSOS TDK Charlie Martin Kennedy Carroll Durdin and Owies would not have made a difference to this year.

Killed by list management

Sent from my SM-F956B using Tapatalk

_________________
If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

Don’t have to sack him.
Pay out the rest of his contract (ends Sept), to hear a new voice.

I get your point.

_________________
Everyone looks good in Navy Blue