Graham Wright, CEO – appointed 10/2024, started 8/2025

bondiblue · **Posted:** Mon May 04, 2026 11:06 am

SurreyBlue wrote:

The last president won premierships because he demanded success at Carlton.
The issue was the members fell for the bulldust spread by so called Carlton people who drowned us to where we are today, especially as they were the ones behind a lot of our cap manipulation. Walked away a hero!!!! :mad:

I'm still waiting for the new age people and system to get us success, some little success would do!!!
That tells me more who was right and who is wrong.

Elliot was prepared to fight the AFL Commission, instead of rolling over to die.

It was wasn't a case of the President who fought with the AFL, it was a case of the AFL insider, Collins, who sold us out to who he thought were his mates.

Classic case of divide and conquer. Collins says he nearly cried when he was shafted...till he looked at his bank account.

Sometimes you have to stand up for what's right. I cant see anything over the last 20 years to suggest a pat on the back let alone any reward from the AFL Commission for playing along with the unprecedented penalties Carlton copped for being open and honest.

Here' s just a couple of hundreds of AFL decisions to go against us in last 2 decades:

Priority picks rules changed when we had opportunity to get 2 first rounders (after Pies got Thomas and Pendlebury after tanking)...
Tribunal decisions see Plowman and Prendergast decisions to make an example (but never applied rulings again). Carlton guinea pigs.....
Holding the ball rule changed our midfield strengths with cripps and Walsh.....
Ruck rules changed when TDK leaves carlton and we havent had time to move on from the Traditional Plodding big ruckman....
Draft rules changes after Brizzy, GCS and Pies got their players with late picks... we paid 2 firsts for Dean, now want to make it harder and taxing to get walker.....

Just stating the facts. It just doesnt stop. We have to show some strength and put fear back onto the AFL Commissioners. They prefer no conflict. Well, there is conflict with their decision making: where's the fair runway?

Nah, I'm sick of the AFL and I'm sick of seeing a meek carlton kicked whenever the AFL sees an opportunity. Bring on the Lawyers. AFL haven't got a leg to stand on.

Crusader · **Posted:** Mon May 04, 2026 11:27 am

carntheblues wrote:

Unfortunately enough of us old arrogant supporters still believe that the arrogant old approach will still work!
Its what got us into this mess now!

That’s bulldust.

The club swinging hard away from those ways is what’s landed us in the shit. We went chasing friendship bracelets instead of scalps & trophies.

Our leader is LITERALLY in bed with the opposition. He sleeps on their turf.

Mickstar · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:40 pm **Posts:** 8458

bondiblue wrote:

SurreyBlue wrote:

The last president won premierships because he demanded success at Carlton.
The issue was the members fell for the bulldust spread by so called Carlton people who drowned us to where we are today, especially as they were the ones behind a lot of our cap manipulation. Walked away a hero!!!! :mad:

I'm still waiting for the new age people and system to get us success, some little success would do!!!
That tells me more who was right and who is wrong.

Elliot was prepared to fight the AFL Commission, instead of rolling over to die.

It was wasn't a case of the President who fought with the AFL, it was a case of the AFL insider, Collins, who sold us out to who he thought were his mates.

Classic case of divide and conquer. Collins says he nearly cried when he was shafted...till he looked at his bank account.

Sometimes you have to stand up for what's right. I cant see anything over the last 20 years to suggest a pat on the back let alone any reward from the AFL Commission for playing along with the unprecedented penalties Carlton copped for being open and honest.

Here' s just a couple of hundreds of AFL decisions to go against us in last 2 decades:

Priority picks rules changed when we had opportunity to get 2 first rounders (after Pies got Thomas and Pendlebury after tanking)...
Tribunal decisions see Plowman and Prendergast decisions to make an example (but never applied rulings again). Carlton guinea pigs.....
Holding the ball rule changed our midfield strengths with cripps and Walsh.....
Ruck rules changed when TDK leaves carlton and we havent had time to move on from the Traditional Plodding big ruckman....
Draft rules changes after Brizzy, GCS and Pies got their players with late picks... we paid 2 firsts for Dean, now want to make it harder and taxing to get walker.....

Just stating the facts. It just doesnt stop. We have to show some strength and put fear back onto the AFL Commissioners. They prefer no conflict. Well, there is conflict with their decision making: where's the fair runway?

Nah, I'm sick of the AFL and I'm sick of seeing a meek carlton kicked whenever the AFL sees an opportunity. Bring on the Lawyers. AFL haven't got a leg to stand on.

Very good Bondi .................. and don't forget Swann's genius move with the ball up instead of the time honoured bounce of the ball that stood the test of time for over a hundred years . If you can't jump you are frucked and don't you dare put a toenail over that line . The goose has eliminated ruck craft . Not to mention the last touch rule that has eliminated at least 30 boundary throw ins which was Cripps bread and butter .................. and Swanns classic comment , the umpiring has never been better . The Clubs are happy . Has one man created so much damage in the shortest space of time than the disaster that is Gregg Swann ?

daggs001 · **Joined:** Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:20 pm **Posts:** 1871

I think it's time we used the AFL made up mid season rules to shove it up them.
We play Richmond, Essendon* and West Coast again. Our absolute main objective
now is to tank and ensure we end up with pick one.
Once that is achieved, M Voss gets a handshake and a thankyou and a new coach is appointed.
The new coach is given the brief we are gutting the team for any player with trade currency.
With pick one already secured, we trade out our F1 for another first rounder this year (we could even do this live on draft
night after we have secured Walker).

We take what we can for the players with currency and absolutely smash this year's draft.
On draft night we bid on Cochrane with pick one. That gets us a compo pick in addition to the
suite of picks we have hopefully accumulated.
We could end up using our pick one (after Cochrane bid is matched) on the next best kid
in the draft. That ensures that as a minimum Walker is a pick three. We desperately need two picks
in the top 3 or 4 plus 4 picks inside top 20.
It's achievable, but we must absolutely stick it up the AFL by ensuring we finish bottom for it to work.

SurreyBlue · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:32 am **Posts:** 11323

bondiblue wrote:

SurreyBlue wrote:

The last president won premierships because he demanded success at Carlton.
The issue was the members fell for the bulldust spread by so called Carlton people who drowned us to where we are today, especially as they were the ones behind a lot of our cap manipulation. Walked away a hero!!!! :mad:

I'm still waiting for the new age people and system to get us success, some little success would do!!!
That tells me more who was right and who is wrong.

Elliot was prepared to fight the AFL Commission, instead of rolling over to die.

It was wasn't a case of the President who fought with the AFL, it was a case of the AFL insider, Collins, who sold us out to who he thought were his mates.

Classic case of divide and conquer. Collins says he nearly cried when he was shafted...till he looked at his bank account.

Sometimes you have to stand up for what's right. I cant see anything over the last 20 years to suggest a pat on the back let alone any reward from the AFL Commission for playing along with the unprecedented penalties Carlton copped for being open and honest.

Here' s just a couple of hundreds of AFL decisions to go against us in last 2 decades:

Priority picks rules changed when we had opportunity to get 2 first rounders (after Pies got Thomas and Pendlebury after tanking)...
Tribunal decisions see Plowman and Prendergast decisions to make an example (but never applied rulings again). Carlton guinea pigs.....
Holding the ball rule changed our midfield strengths with cripps and Walsh.....
Ruck rules changed when TDK leaves carlton and we havent had time to move on from the Traditional Plodding big ruckman....
Draft rules changes after Brizzy, GCS and Pies got their players with late picks... we paid 2 firsts for Dean, now want to make it harder and taxing to get walker.....

Just stating the facts. It just doesnt stop. We have to show some strength and put fear back onto the AFL Commissioners. They prefer no conflict. Well, there is conflict with their decision making: where's the fair runway?

Nah, I'm sick of the AFL and I'm sick of seeing a meek carlton kicked whenever the AFL sees an opportunity. Bring on the Lawyers. AFL haven't got a leg to stand on.

Bondi - well said sir. :clap:

MPH78 · **Posted:** Tue May 05, 2026 3:54 pm

Fined $75k for the Elijah situation.

Next week likely sack Voss.

Going swimmingly.

GWS · **Posted:** Tue May 05, 2026 4:43 pm

daggs001 wrote:

I think it's time we used the AFL made up mid season rules to shove it up them.
We play Richmond, Essendon** and West Coast again. Our absolute main objective
now is to tank and ensure we end up with pick one.
Once that is achieved, M Voss gets a handshake and a thankyou and a new coach is appointed.
The new coach is given the brief we are gutting the team for any player with trade currency.
With pick one already secured, we trade out our F1 for another first rounder this year (we could even do this live on draft
night after we have secured Walker).

We take what we can for the players with currency and absolutely smash this year's draft.
On draft night we bid on Cochrane with pick one. That gets us a compo pick in addition to the
suite of picks we have hopefully accumulated.
We could end up using our pick one (after Cochrane bid is matched) on the next best kid
in the draft. That ensures that as a minimum Walker is a pick three. We desperately need two picks
in the top 3 or 4 plus 4 picks inside top 20.
It's achievable, but we must absolutely stick it up the AFL by ensuring we finish bottom for it to work.

Richmond had seven of the top 28 picks in 2024.

Eighteen months later and they’ve won one game this year and couldn’t even beat us.

malbi · **Posted:** Tue May 05, 2026 4:45 pm

MPH78 wrote:

Fined $75k for the Elijah situation.

Next week likely sack Voss.

Going swimmingly.

I hope one day someone can explain exactly what happened and exactly what Carlton did wrong, because "duty of care" doesn't cut it.

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sinbagger · **Posted:** Tue May 05, 2026 4:49 pm

malbi wrote:

MPH78 wrote:

Fined $75k for the Elijah situation.

Next week likely sack Voss.

Going swimmingly.

I hope one day someone can explain exactly what happened and exactly what Carlton did wrong, because "duty of care" doesn't cut it.

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Like I predicted, there is no specific finding that would allow them to fine us, so they will just fine us for the "vibe of the thing".

SurreyBlue · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:32 am **Posts:** 11323

Statement from the AFL:

Quote:

"There was sufficient visual cues, performance data during the match and an understanding of Elijah's individual circumstances to indicate that he should have been removed from play earlier than he was," Dillon said.

"We determined that the delay in removing Elijah from the field resulted in an outcome that brought the game into disrepute.

"The findings have been made against the Carlton Football Club collectively, not any individual."

Not Good. That's all I'm saying.

GWS · **Posted:** Tue May 05, 2026 4:57 pm

Imagine the size of the fine if the AFL itself could be fined for bringing the game into disrepute.

Their ability to damage the game’s reputation is legendary.

sinbagger · **Posted:** Tue May 05, 2026 4:59 pm

SurreyBlue wrote:

Statement from the AFL:

Quote:

"There was sufficient visual cues, performance data during the match and an understanding of Elijah's individual circumstances to indicate that he should have been removed from play earlier than he was," Dillon said.

"We determined that the delay in removing Elijah from the field resulted in an outcome that brought the game into disrepute.

"The findings have been made against the Carlton Football Club collectively, not any individual."

Not Good. That's all I'm saying.

The AFL is a bunch of incompetent morons. They admit he was ok to play but they "think" he should have come off earlier because of the vibe of the thing

malbi · **Posted:** Tue May 05, 2026 5:04 pm

sinbagger wrote:

SurreyBlue wrote:

Statement from the AFL:

Quote:

"There was sufficient visual cues, performance data during the match and an understanding of Elijah's individual circumstances to indicate that he should have been removed from play earlier than he was," Dillon said.

"We determined that the delay in removing Elijah from the field resulted in an outcome that brought the game into disrepute.

"The findings have been made against the Carlton Football Club collectively, not any individual."

Not Good. That's all I'm saying.

The AFL is a bunch of incompetent morons. They admit he was ok to play but they "think" he should have come off earlier because of the vibe of the thing

So the AFL know better than our club doctor or psychologist? What are their qualifications?

And exactly what was going on with Elijah out there? What were we meant to protect? He's always been fidgety.

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camel · **Posted:** Tue May 05, 2026 5:14 pm

GWS wrote:

Imagine the size of the fine if the AFL itself could be fined for bringing the game into disrepute.

Their ability to damage the game’s reputation is legendary.

Like signing off on an umpire getting paid by the AFL's main gambling sponsor.

Hang on, whaddya mean, the AFL has a main gambling sponsor?!

ScottSaunders2 · **Joined:** Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:40 pm **Posts:** 924

SurreyBlue wrote:

bondiblue wrote:

SurreyBlue wrote:

The last president won premierships because he demanded success at Carlton.
The issue was the members fell for the bulldust spread by so called Carlton people who drowned us to where we are today, especially as they were the ones behind a lot of our cap manipulation. Walked away a hero!!!! :mad:

I'm still waiting for the new age people and system to get us success, some little success would do!!!
That tells me more who was right and who is wrong.

Elliot was prepared to fight the AFL Commission, instead of rolling over to die.

It was wasn't a case of the President who fought with the AFL, it was a case of the AFL insider, Collins, who sold us out to who he thought were his mates.

Classic case of divide and conquer. Collins says he nearly cried when he was shafted...till he looked at his bank account.

Sometimes you have to stand up for what's right. I cant see anything over the last 20 years to suggest a pat on the back let alone any reward from the AFL Commission for playing along with the unprecedented penalties Carlton copped for being open and honest.

Here' s just a couple of hundreds of AFL decisions to go against us in last 2 decades:

Priority picks rules changed when we had opportunity to get 2 first rounders (after Pies got Thomas and Pendlebury after tanking)...
Tribunal decisions see Plowman and Prendergast decisions to make an example (but never applied rulings again). Carlton guinea pigs.....
Holding the ball rule changed our midfield strengths with cripps and Walsh.....
Ruck rules changed when TDK leaves carlton and we havent had time to move on from the Traditional Plodding big ruckman....
Draft rules changes after Brizzy, GCS and Pies got their players with late picks... we paid 2 firsts for Dean, now want to make it harder and taxing to get walker.....

Just stating the facts. It just doesnt stop. We have to show some strength and put fear back onto the AFL Commissioners. They prefer no conflict. Well, there is conflict with their decision making: where's the fair runway?

Nah, I'm sick of the AFL and I'm sick of seeing a meek carlton kicked whenever the AFL sees an opportunity. Bring on the Lawyers. AFL haven't got a leg to stand on.

Bondi - well said sir. :clap:

Spot on.

I am rather confused by the AFL and their response.

We are putting in all these new measures, we are going to have a task force to address mental health, permanent full time staff for all clubs moving forward etc.. etc..

but effectively saying, despite, as an industry, we dont have enough education or resources in this space, depsite the many tragic circumstances of the last few years, Carlton should have known better and are fined 75k. Get [REDACTED].

Its hard not to form the belief they are out to get us, it seems every change in their policy (father sons) or the direction of the game (post 23), is in direct response to Carlton, playing by the rules that everyone else has, and about to benefit from the systems they implemented ... so we have to change it.

just @#$%&! off afl

Drewgirl · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:57 pm **Posts:** 5064

Yep AFL like Fricking Carlton up and making an example out of us.

Who said we were not trendsetters.

Any other club. Nothing to see here.

Like no other club play players with mental health.

We are so fricken dumb at hiding things aren’t we.

Yep AFL and AFL world, pile it on us while we are down.

We do deserve it after all.

And we will sit down and just take it.

Oh what have we become……

The_Cranium · **Posted:** Tue May 05, 2026 6:38 pm

Yep classic Makey Uppey going whack because @#$%&! Carlton. Melbourne sent Petracca back out to pay with a life threatening injury because he said he was right to play despite the metrics and visuals suggesting otherwise. We sent Elijah back out to play because he said he was OK and wanted to work through it. The opinion of the psychologist was let him play. Melbourne given please explain, fined zilch. Absolutely nothing. Carlton on the other hand. $75k. Why? We brought the game into disrepute. And we accept it in the interest of Elijah's health and well being. We should fight it. We should tell these pricks where to go. But we don't because we actually care about the bloke. I hate the AFL so much.

MPH78 · **Posted:** Tue May 05, 2026 7:02 pm

Caught a bit of the Dillon and Kane presser. No wonder the AFL has so many issues. Amateurs.

This regime is so out of its depth and are materially ruining the game.

Pretty sure the ARC ran the review.

Seems clear to me they wanted a scapegoat or two but there was no clear negligence on behalf of the club or the key medical staff involved. Noting the many complexities involved with Elijah. Thus the ‘club’ fine.

Between this and new FS/Academy/Draft rules, I really wish the Club took on the AFL for the highly compromised bush league that they are.

We are on our knees anyway, let’s @#$%&! go down swinging.

GreatEx · **Posted:** Tue May 05, 2026 7:03 pm

Seriously, Melbourne didn't cop a fine for actually putting Petracca's life at risk? For a tangible, testable physical injury? Fixing hell (auto correct, but I'm leaving it there, because it IS a fix! )

The_Cranium · **Posted:** Tue May 05, 2026 7:38 pm

GreatEx wrote:

Seriously, Melbourne didn't cop a fine for actually putting Petracca's life at risk? For a tangible, testable physical injury? Fixing hell (auto correct, but I'm leaving it there, because it IS a fix! )

Google search sighting the age

Quote:

No, the Melbourne Football Club was not fined by the AFL for playing Christian Petracca while injured during the 2024 King's Birthday match.Following an investigation into the handling of his broken ribs, punctured lung, and lacerated spleen, the AFL cleared the club of any wrongdoing, stating that the medical staff acted appropriately with the information they had at the time.

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