A man of integrity to the last!.

Best wishes

I have a confession to make. I think I am responsible for that drastic & mysterious downturn in our form. I think I caused a ripple in the footy universe that night.

At that game I did something that I never have done, or never do, at the football. And no it wasn't meeting up with Syd. Far worse.

You see, at that GWS game in 2024....

*clears throat*


I had a shit.


I repeat, I never do that at the football, or indeed away from home at all really. And this one off event was courtesy of a hot dog I'd bought at the ground prematch, which caused a bit of an issue later on. A respectable bathroom was found, & yep, I did the unthinkable.

We have been awful ever since.

I feel terrible.

I figure maybe the only way to lift the curse is at our next GWS game, I go again.

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Did you have a sandwich to make?

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I'll wait til I hear what Enjoy_Every_Sandwich has to say, & get back to you

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Thanks CK. All this time I thought it was my declaration on TC late in Q1 that we would break 200 points, that caused the breakdown. I will sleep easy tonight.

I agree, I'm sure that was exactly the case at the end of last year, I think he may even referenced that in his interview.
But can't it be both?
I agree Voss took this year on and also took on the responsibility and pressure of massive changes and coaching for his career at the same time.
Ultimately he fell on his own sword in the end.
But to turn the club around in 9 games with all the changes on and off the field, that would have been a massive feat IMO, especially with the added pressure in 'having' to win each week as a matter of coaching survival, hence the reference to quick sand.
We won't be putting the same pressure on Fraser for the last 14 games.

I don't think coming back to Sydney to eat your own shit will turn back time or lift the curse

Exactly.
And still no one has been able to explain the drop offs.
People have their opinions but nothing seems to line up, fitness, game plan, strategy, players, skills, mental fortitude etc.
All we do know is that it wasn't working as it was.
With no pressure to win now, it will be interesting to see how the dice fall and who remains at the club in 2027.
2 out of the door already.

I took it differently, I thought he meant it as "we wanted to roll with Vossy at the end of last year" or "let Vossy roll on". As in, let him keep coaching.

I know where you're coming from, what he said verbatim sounds like he meant giving Voss the sack, but that's not how it came across.

Or is that just me?

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Yeah that's the way I understood it as well.

At times like these people will pick a side an believe what they want.

Yesterday I saw a snippet of the interview Voss did with afl.com.au where he said that he has no plan B, and is fully invested into plan A. People interpreted that as he was describing his game plan, but I was clear to me that he was talking about his life and future plans.

But can we put to bed the Whately "set up to fail" crap.
This clown started every Monday show with a doomsday Carlton montage and asking how long will Voss survive... only to turn around and blame same old Carlton when the decision was made. F...........R..........O

Voss is a smart man. The club was clear in the outcomes they required and both parties chose to roll the dice... it didn't work out.

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Fair. Thanks for the explanation

Because on first listen that comment sounded quite full on

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Pre-game feed of a vindaloo for you!

IIRC, unlike others you meet at the footy, CK didnt get off his arse. I had to go down and greet him and his kids.
He left without saying good bye too....snuck out before the final bell.

I reckon he had an accident and was covering up.

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voss wasn't hard done by, imo.


when he took the job we were all expecting to challenge for a flag. brownlow medalist, two coleman winning forwards, an AA calibre Fullback .we had walsh in his prime pre back injury. voss wanted big strong bodies and runners who could run all day. and he got everything he wanted.

he wanted to bludgeon other teams at the coalface for 4qtrs, game in, game out for a 25 game season and finals.

apart from one maigical little run delivered to us by the Gods themselves in 2023 - his gamestyle was flawed and unsustainable. the afl changed the rules midseason, and we were toast.

from there we too stubborn, too stupid to alter our list at the end of 2024 when we should have traded harry for a small forward and picks to modernise our list, and then use the reaminder of harry's cap to trade for houston.

all of this was voss' doing, and when things happened out of our control, the club, voss whoever - were to slow to tweak the list. GW came in, saw the same things, and has gone about revamping us off and on the field. so far, so good.

Yep Braithy. Voss game plan. Let the opposition run the ball out of their backline and we flood back. And then we try and win the ball and run forward in waves - to no one.

No pressure while the opposition take the ball forward annoyed the shit out of me.

Then Voss is on the field without being in the box, and just barkes and waves his arms to go back. Every lead we ever had, he went ultra defensive. You saw that everytime. And just kept on doing it, even though it didnt work.

Far out. I hope Fraser just releases the shackles and just goes one on one for the rest of the season.

While out new coach works out what we do next year.

Do we think he will just run with Voss’s game plan? What do you all think?

Hard no on Skipworth - he's literally the Emporer with no clothes - and the fact McCrae was pumping his tyres today is all you need to know they can't get him out of the door quick enough.

Essendon* can have him.

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I'm hoping he runs with the Mansfield game plan from the 90's. One on one footy, and if you're losing then whack the mouthiest cauliflower from the opposition. At least hit the showers with your head held high knowing you won the fights. Then watch your back in the car park after the game.

Firstly I'm not running a pity party for Voss, just stating how I see the situation.
I would've liked to see until at least mid-year if the playing group could get their s#$t together, but now we will never know.
The pressure is off and everything has changed.

Who were the big bodied runners aside from Acres?
In 2022 we got Acres but lost a solid B grader big bodied runners in Newnes and lost Setterfield also.
In 2023 we added no big bodies players instead we added Elijah and Fantasia and lost another solid B grade big bodied runner in Curnow.
In 2024 we only added Haynes and mostly kids but lost a heap of injured experienced players and traded on another B grade big body runner in Kennedy. And before you say we lost out trading him on, we are seriously questioning the set up with Cerra, Cripps and Hewett at the moment and Kennedy was just another slow mid in our rotation that also had kicking issues (but still better than some).
In 2025 is the only year you could say we added big bodied runners to compete with the current game style, but it was too little too late and none were mids.
The fact about our recruiting is we failed to adapt to the changes in the game quick enough but we also had little capital in all those drafts to do so (aside from 2024 to get Jagga).
At the end of 2023 would've you been happy to lose one of our A graders for better B graders or a round 1 pick to compete with the game changes?
Even McKay who both of us said should've been traded in 2024 we would've kept in 2023.
I agree in 2024 we should've added more depth and Voss tried, he attracted Houston to our club.
Houston trade was out of his hands he wanted him we all know this so lumping this in with his doing is not correct.
The rest I agree on.
Everyone has a hand in this, the unfortunate part is we now look like a s$%t show of a club again.