well, the stats don't lie, as they say. Credit to you, Bondi for backing up your argument with hard data. That doesn't happen round these parts to often!

I always considered TDK the number 1 in the TDK/Pitto combo, even if Pitto won more taps to advantage, TDK had much more followup in the post-bounce contest, be it tackles or running forward with ball in hand. and just the number of minutes TDK could perform CB duties for and his mobility around the ground while he was playing in the Ruck position. but maybe I was seeing it wrong all that time. the Marshall/TDK combo has been more successful than the Pitto/Harry/Cripps combo I would think. What does that tell us about Pitto?

What was the AFL's rationale for changing the ruck rules, (other than indirectly hurting CFC with plausible deniability — which is always a KPI at AFL House)? Was it player safety from knee injuries? Speeding up the already sped-up game?

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We all have our preferences/opinions. We made TDK leave by playing him No 1 ruck.

For me it was about having a three headed monster: Harry Charlie TDK to stretch opposition ruckmen and stop double teaming. There's always a cost. there's pros and cons either way. I think TDK was overrated and the possessions and marks around the ground he was praised for were not there. He took 1 -3 marks and that was it. For a bloke 6'7" you'd expect that. The data shows most marks were uncontested.

His follow up work in the middle was good, but did we really need him doing that when Pitto was putting the ball where the Brownlow Medallist wanted? Pitto couldnt play forward. We didn't have enough dangerous medium and small players playing forward back then imo, so attention was on Harry and Charlie when TDK wasn't down there.

He's gone now, and nobody I know thinks TDK is worth $1.7M



They did it for Lyon and SOS after they got TDK to shut up their President who was non stop whinging about FS, and everything else that would deflect attention from saints.

Nah, yeah. They wanted to bring back the rucks jumping at each other to stop the wrestling, and players going over the line to impede the jumpers like TDK. They tried to stop rucks jumping into each other after Crows' Rehn was the 3rd or 4th ruck to do his PCL from the dangerous action. They made the circle smaller. Now they want them jumping into each other knee first. Fkn idiots. They also suggested that with the 666 rule would speed the game. It has from CB. There's always a cost messing with the rules our forefathers created after 50 or 60 years of experience.

These days, like CEOs in Corporate world, they want to leave their mark in the short term and others can worry about the consequences after their reign. Its not the same game I grew up with. The rules are nowhere near as good, and black n white as they were last century.

KICKING IN DANGER, PUSH IN THE BACK, DROPPING THE BALL, THROWING THE BALL, HOLDING THE BALL......WHAT ABOUT lying on someones back like a turtle shell and not letting them hit ball out.... I love my team and frustrated with the rules....that's another thread

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Because he's not injured.

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And the AFL’s interpretation of “injured” depends on what would be most inconvenient for Carlton.

Apparently we are still heavily into Humphrey.
And as per GW comment we are going to be 'very active' in the draft.
Makes you wonder where all our draft capital will come from.........



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How is Macay gonna take marks on the wing if he's holding down a KPD though? Those wing outlet marks are a really important part of our defensive transition, especially when the momentum is against us. Seems like a waste t put MacKay down back to me. Maybe he's now had two good games since you wrote this you'd reconsider?

What we do need down back (going forwards in time) is a like for like replacement for Haynes. He's almost AA for intercept marking and was number 1 in AFL for it in 2025. Don't know how many more seasons he has in him, maybe missing a few seasons gives him extra longevity?

Unless the club in question happens to be Carlton, Port Adelaide, Essendon*** or Richmond, whom at least two of will be paying doubles for F/S-NGA concession picks in spite of their ladder position. Check's ladder… so how does that work again, Greg? Thanks for the runway, Tosser!
Oh and did Greg mention AFL have introduced a specific incentive clause to encourage 'spite' picks of F/S and NGA players by opposition clubs? just so there can be nothing left to chance when it comes to anybody slipping through at a more natural pick if the perverse incentives had not been introduced.

Swann is a deadset goose . Hopefully the AFL realise they picked a lemon and move him on . Has one man done so much damage in such a short time . Hopefully Brad Scott gets back there . Scott aint likeable but he did a far better job than the current mob .

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Yeah right.

Making a bottom 5 team needs to burn 2 first round picks for a player.

Tell me how that makes sense.

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Not much change since April.

I suppose I’d try to hang in to Flynn Riley for a rookie deal… depends on what happens in the draft. So, yeah, I suppose I’d delist him with a firm maybe. Not real sure on the rules, since the six month deal was his terms.
Bottom line is, I would move heaven & earth to get the big sauce, Ethan Herbert, in the draft… I’m just [REDACTED] if I know how we get our hands on another TWO top 10 picks to do it.

Gut-running McGovern is worth another go around. Maybe a 1+1 type of deal.
That said, if someone comes for him with a band 1 or 2 offer, then it’ll be ‘thanks for everything, Mitch. Need a ride to the airport?’

Haynes is 50/50. I don’t think he plays too often if we’re going with Weitering, Dean and O’Farrell.

As for Elijah… that’s a bit much to lump on a new coach.

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I’d prefer Zac Bailey as FA. His run and carry is more suited to our list.

ZB is getting $1.4m a year from Crows. Good luck to him

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Love your work Crusader.

Herbert? Good luck. He's a Top 10 pick along with HVH. Getting Herbert, or the like, changes everything in the ruck Dept.

Really would like to target a No 1 ruck with the salary cap space we have and develop Riley. I would move on Reidy or Pitto if we did. I don't have any faith in reidy from what Ive seen thus far.

Looks like Walker will cost us our 2 First Round Picks.
May use one of our 2nds on a Kid in the Draft and the other in a Trade for ready made player.
Have a feeling 4 or our next 5 picks will be on mature players to bolster KPD (Haynes goes), HB run, and KPF.

I like Charleson and Wilson as future mids. Wilson looked great there in TAC when moved from HB to mid. Made his name there.

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We really need a KPF, we should have someone developing in 2s

We have HoK in the 2s, he’s not nothing.

He’s not a forward either.

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He's been very disappointing in 26. I still have everything crossed, but I feel we still lack a 'pure/natural' KP forward developing.

I agree on both points (even if I had HoK as a ruck)

I am jealous of other sides forward targets, there has to be someone in the draft that can kick straight and clunk a mark.

I'd love a Logan Morris type, not huge, but has impacted from a young age

there are a few out there yet to sign

Armartey and Maclean
Walter and King
Hogan

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