wanna bet?

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Still dependent on pokies then...

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

The cabal has been spoken for

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

not true.

In fact if you bothered to read and hold several ideas in your mind at once you might see at times I (and I assume others) have agreed with you
what I do not agree with
what bores me shitless with your posts
and why I really usually just read and ignore
is that it seems you fail to be able to hold several contrary things as "truths" at the same time - what some might call nuance over binary and what my old philosophy department would call dialectical thinking.

Have numerous carlton boards been shithouse - absolutely
Was I pleased with Voss's appointment - No
but I can see that the boards have improved lately - still a ways to go but getting better - wright's appointment points to that imo (as does the youth on our list - something even you acknowledge - though I assume you think this was a fluke?)
I can also see that Voss did a lot right and that should be remembered - it may even be a truth that we needed Voss to set certain things straight before the next appointment.

see not black or white - but, like all things in life, full of colour.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Don’t read them then
Disagree with you about the board
Voss was a stupid coach
Same game style for 4.5 years
Appointed by the board ultimately

Wright I believe has a high footy acumen
Will he be Carltonised by a bunch of woke corporates

Voss’ coaching performance in the Elimination Final was the worst there has ever been
I won’t remind you of selections game plan subs etc
He clearly needed coaching assistance
The club sacked the fitness boss only
When the ship had just about sunk they changed some assistance half way through 2025
Terrible decisions
That is the responsibility of Cook Lloyd and the board
It’s common knowledge although nobody will admit it that Wright wanted Voss gone when he took over in July/August last year
His non sacking was mystifying
I suspect that once again the board overruled Wright because they didn’t want another sacked coach thus having egg on their faces
We have partially wasted a year and a half with the wrong person at the helm

And we know Voss didn’t resigned
He was sacked
Thus the board Wright and Davies lying to us supporters
I’ll be repetitive again
Let Wright and Davies do the job
History says that’s unlikely

blah blah blah

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

We witnessed some of the most embarrassing losses in the 4.5 years that we were supposed to be 'good'.

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Don't bother Danny.

So called supporter not worth the aggro.

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

Well maybe Wright knew Vossy wasn't the right man and went about getting his next coach by bringing in Josh

This could have been his plan all along
He had already approached Macrae who is to say he hasn't been sounding out potential candidates for months

Josh could have been the man for a long time

I guess we will wait and see

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They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

Any truth to media reports we approached J Longmuir and David Walls to come across from Freo as coach and list manager?

I'm not looking at who this is directed to but I find this sentence, pure beauty.

I already regret dropping out of philosophy to pursue other fields, but after reading this, it feels like more proof, my decision to drop philosophy was my loss.

As mush as I love keoghs passion, I don't like his anarchical approach to OUR club. so your sentence is Apt for keogh.

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Keogh, I look at us at TC as a family. I enjoy some of the stuff you post, and like dannyboy. I agree with some of your comments, but you can't help to conflate the past with the present. You are so angry with the past you want to blow up the whole joint up, and behead everyone in a suit.

I hear your voice "Viva la revoluc'ion".

That was a symbol of resistance, for cultural change. Significant in France, Mexico, Cuba... at the time. But you don't want to accept the small steps of cultural change the whole club has made in the past 5 years.. And now, after several attempts to change, since 2015, we find ourselves, right or wrong, moving on a coach again. We've won 3 games in a row, about to make it 4. Most agree if we played like we are now we would have beaten North, Pies, Dees, possibly, Lions and Crows, and surely the saints. We have found out we have something good here.

But lets take a breath. Maybe the small steps taken over the last 10 years have been significant. I acknowledge the "good" changes Vossy has made to the Football Dept. I feel his Game Plan may be bearing fruits now. I want our players to continue the mantra contest and pressure. But I want it for 4 quarters. Players still sing from the same song book, but only recently have they applied it for 4 quarters, initiating tweaks Assistants were trying to instill in players in the preseason and bringing contest and pressure for 4 quarters. The players all say so. Listen to all interviews, especially Dean's most recent "Rising Sun" interview. Voss was good for the club in some ways. he's not Neeld or Malthouse. Its not as you think. Maybe you are right with some of your assertions, but not all.

Politics is a game of give and take, to find middle ground and consensus. Without that process, its pure anarchy. Blowing up the joint is anarchy. That's what SOS did to this List from 2015. It was extreme and we have paid for it. Lets not go to extremes and blow the joint up again.

You paint everyone connected to the club with the same brush, because some of the Board Members, not all, made a wrong decision. This hatred and extremism imo comes after decades of the same form of disdain you have for all Boards post 1995. Its 2026. A lot has changed. There will always be some connection in the club with a previous regime. You can't hate everyone, forever. maybe you can, but you shouldn't imo.

Articulate which Board Members you want removed and leave the others alone. Its OUR club, not YOURS alone. Lets be intelligent about this, to give us some comfort by appreciating and acknowledging the things we are doing well, and hold onto those, and build from there. Its not hard. Its only a game, and you have to enjoy games.

We need to find a new coach. See thread. You either believe GW and CD are the right guys to run the process, or you don't. Accept that as fact. You will not change who makes the final decision, and until you do, you are aiming blindly and living in the past as your only guide. Come on mate, let the show begin. It's a new phase of our evolution. Don't throw stones at it when it has only barely started...let it roll out, then tell us what you think. You are not Nostradamus, and you should not take our love hate relationship to heart. Its only a game. We are a family. Bluebaggers.

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Only David Walls, from what I know, and he wants to finish what he's started at Freo. So, List Manager role remains vacant.

I don't think any prospective coach has been invited to be part of the process.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Hope not.

What an embarrassment.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

What’s interesting is if you asked every Carlton supporter who is on the board probably not one could tell you. And yet they are the most important people at any club because ultimately they have the final decision on matter like who is the next head coach
The people involved at board level when Voss was appointed were
Priestley( finance)
David Campbell ( advisory on leadership)
Lahra Carey ( communications and marketing strategies)
Greg Williams ( printing ex champ)
Paddy Kinnersly ( our watch)
They were directly involved in the final say of Voss’ appointment
They collectively got it wrong
Despite this Priestley is on the selection panel and William’s will consult with the selection panel and the board according to the club

You can be a board member for 12 years
You come up for re- election every 4
The only time you actually front the members is at the annual general meeting in February ironically when members expectations are at their most optimistic
They escape nearly all scrutiny despite ultimately having the final say on important matters
If we are all about accountability to get the best coach then these 5 people should have no say in the other because they have underperformed
Hopefully Davies and Wright only run the show this time
Wright clearly rates Fraser got him over to Carlton
Hopefully Fraser continues to be a wining which effectively takes it out of the boards hands

do not want Fraser to be appointed (- even if we win the flag ) Let him concentrate on helping this group group while we search for a new coach.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

I don't have a dog in this fight (basically because I'm not in any room that could inform me as to who the right person is) but what's the concern on Fraser danny?

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb