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 Post subject: AW's disposals
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:42 am 
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hi all, big fan of AW, but I gotta comment on his poor disposals on Sat night. He gets the ball enough and has the speed to break his opponents, but he needs to really work on kicking to his team mate's advantage, esp when kicking long.

So anyone who knows AW, tell him to place his kicks and take his time!! don't waste his talent!! he's been in the system long enough to do some damage to the opposition!


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:52 pm 
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I want to know why he is a tagger. I think when he has time to dispose of it he ok - Problem I see is that he is not given enough of a chance as he always playing as a tagger.

He is not bad as a tagger - bu then again Franchinna and Bannister are pretty good taggers to. So why is pick 2 a tagger

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:35 pm 
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I presume AW gets a tagging role as part of his development. He picks up the best midfielders in the league and learns how they operate.
The bonus is he often keeps the potential match winners quite.
I would think he will be weened from the tagging role as the season progressess.
Regards Pedro.


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The official word is AW was given free licence....

That might be so but getting him to play on Ablett kind of makes a mockery of allowing him "free licence"

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his delivery has stuff all to do with tagging. Those deliveries he mucked up where after he bolted a mile at full pelt. he just needs to settle and pick best option - must be hard though when moving at the rate of knots (?) he goes at.

Haven';t a problem with his tagging role. i think Tex sometimes finds himself caught in no man's land, sort of in between where the ball is and where it will be. Blackers and Murph ( simmo for that matter) do not have this problem. Once he overcomes this, and he will he's just a kid leanring an awful lot at the moment, he'll be a one man blitzrieg(?).

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Would be good to give him some extra space and time with the odd block or shepherd though huh???

Most of the time it looks like its every man for himself out there.....

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:00 pm 
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Agree his kicking isnt his strong point and its a shame because he is a better player than last year. I think he has more time to deliver sometimes than he realises and tends to rush his kicks, like to see him steady a bit more.....he also could look for the short option a bit more than the long. Saying all though his handball is very good and he is fast becoming one of our best players and one of our hardest working players...

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Tagging is a separate issue - should he or shouldn't he be.

Pedro raised his overall disposal. Specifically on this, after having watched a couple of quarters on the net last night he does need some work on his kicking. Highlight of this for me was he miss on goal from an easy set shot after making fantastic ground to receive a kouta pass.

His miss off 2 or 3 short steps raised two questions for me (which are completely unrelated to tagging):
1. method or
2. pressure or lack of composure under the new time rule.

Perhaps it is a bit of both. Again after having watched parts of the game for first time last night the kicking of some players really was poor. To take a thought from Frank Dardrews thread perhaps it is an issue of composure e.g:
1. Carrots on a break and with opportunity to steady on right or left chose his left (errant kick as a result)
2. Simmo - made the burst and seemed to lose the rest of his momentum as he sprayed it wide for a behind
3. Even Scotland forced himself to rush a kick into the forward line for an easy turnover.

The team, with obvious levels of inexperience seem to be be rushing and lacking that sense of COMPOSURE (what a word).

What really impressed me about the game and should be a real factor for us going forward is that we won our fair share of clearances and hard ball gets. Great news because it starts with getting it first and this has been an area of weakness.

But can we address COMPOSURE?


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Composure can be improved when you have all the confidence in your team mates doing the right things around you.

Composure is lost when you have little faith your team mates are working for you around you... which ultimately makes you hurry everything....

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composure also comes with age, like you know as a sixteen you lost your compsure before the girl even knew composure was an issue, but as you get older, you sort of find a neat little shady tree to compose together. 8)

as for the tagging, gee thought i'd addressed that SB. :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:14 pm 
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your right dannyboy - it comes with age.

But gee willikers, at 44 i wish i could lose my composure again!!!!! Forget the blocks and the shepherds let me out there to spray 'em far and wide!

Go get 'em Walks - let it loose son.


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now you sound like an old tom cat missing his fence wailing time 8)

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He seems to panic still,he is still young, but is starting his 3rd year of league football. I love to see it when he bursts of and has a bounce, but he gives it a bit to much and kicks over the heads of leading forwards. He still hasn't been unleashed into his own role, but Denis must have a plan for him, not much we can do about it.


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we are well and truly a rabble, i hate to be so negative but we are.

I find myself more and more agreeing with Synbad lately.

Watch Judd and the eagles and watch how many sheperds and bumps they lay for him so he can get a kick off.

Of course Walker had to rush his kicks , he knew nobody would lay a bump or a sheperd for him and could hear his opponent closing in.

again watch judd when he attempts to burst through a pack he often looks far from composed but gets out of it because people protect him.

If walker played for someone else he would be dominating by now, unfortunately for us he just doesn't have the support from his team mates.

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You dont even have to look at a class outfit like WC... even Collingwood do this very well... just watch them.

Were probably the worst in the league at making space for team mates.

You dont have to be a gun outfit to do the basics... but someone has to lead and do it ... the rest will fall into place.

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dannyboy wrote:
composure also comes with age, like you know as a sixteen you lost your compsure before the girl even knew composure was an issue, but as you get older, you sort of find a neat little shady tree to compose together. 8)

as for the tagging, gee thought i'd addressed that SB. :lol:


I dont have a problem with his ball use all players muck the odd kick up now and then - I just want to see him run lose and pick up 20-30 possession for half a dozen games - I dont want our pick 2 tagging . I know its all about accountability - but this kid had this most of last year. Give him a free reign and let him lose - Especially when it is a practice game - what good did it do having him chase G Abblett around all night

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Every time he gets the ball he seems to want to land a pinpoint pass 50 m up the field at full burst.

Problem? There might not be anyone there.

Solution? Settle down and stop wanting to look like some flashy hero everytime you get the ball. That's what makes an AFL footballer a star AFL footballer, not some gung-ho attitude everytime they get the ball.


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he cant slow down jimmae because his team mates aren't protecting him , he will just get flattened

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jimmae wrote:
Every time he gets the ball he seems to want to land a pinpoint pass 50 m up the field at full burst.

Problem? There might not be anyone there.

Solution? Settle down and stop wanting to look like some flashy hero everytime you get the ball. That's what makes an AFL footballer a star AFL footballer, not some gung-ho attitude everytime they get the ball.


the only way he will learn this is to get more use of the ball - He wont get it tagging. If your only getting it 10-12 times a game you want those possies to be special - let him get it 20-30 times a game and he will learn how to use it better

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West Coast - class team synbad ? but we beat them in last years wizz fizz final :garthp:

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