Just curious but do most people remember Carlton's bid into Sydney before South Melbourne moved to the SCG?
What would people say if we where to go to the AFL and put a similar bid forward again. 11 games in Melbourne and 11 games in Sydney.
Pretty sure Collo was the architect back then.

Would our members/supporters object to Carlton playing 11 games at Telstra Stadium and 11 games at Telstra Dome/MCG?

I for one would think it has merit and depending on $$$$ we get value.
Thoughts?

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I for one wouldn't want it to happen. I would miss the chance to watch 5-6 games less in person a year. For those of us without pay TV, we don't get to see the Blues too often when they play interstate.

The other concern is that Sydney folk tend to jump off fairly quickly when a team is unsuccessful on field. I wonder how attendances would go over the next few years.

I thought that idea was floated quite a while after South moved

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I'd be for it

But I don't live in Melbourne, so I'll shut my mouth.

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You bloody ripper

Its got my vote and where do we sign

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Surrey, has someone hacked your account?

I dunno to be honest. It would have to be seriously underwritten by the AFL and the NSW Gov you'd reckon. To be honest we'd probably get better support playing "home" games in Adelaide and Perth where we at least have the ability to capitalise on the support we would have garnered in the 80s.

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I like that idea, to be honest. But it would take a lot of convincing if it was going to happen, because it'd mean we wouldn't play any games in Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide thus alienating our fans in those cities, but more importantly (to the AFL), it would force other Melbourne clubs to travel to Sydney when they play their home games against us. Effectively, they would be the 'away' team, even though it's really their home game.

I wouldn't have a problem with the club investigating it further, but I just can't see how it would work.

People just misunderstand me Camel.
I only want what is best for Carlton .... no-one or anything else .... just Carlton.

Firstly I think the whole idea is a crock of shit even though I would love them playing up here.

Camel the blues have a pretty good supporter base up here and from memory they used to play games up here annually prior to the Swans arrival so I think it could work. The other thing that would be in our favour is most in NSW relate to a side also known to as the Blues and western Sydney is an un tapped market where most people are battlers who dont relate to the Swans Chadonay inner city set.

Credit for some lateral thinking but I'm not so keen on it and agree that the AFL would have to underwrite the games especially as the brand name isnt what it used to be and agree with CB that the other interstate venues would probably attract more support. I also dont like the idea of us being seen as the second team out of Sydney if you like, I think that has repercussions for the future if we dont get our act together and start turning a profit...might have an effect on membership at the Vic end as well..I guess one positive would be TV exposure which may attract sponsors..like to read others thoughts...another would be wins...you would expect to win more games with that setup..we would get used to the travel and venue and it would be like playing an interstate team when other clubs came it visit and as we know the interstate clubs have a decent home ground advanatge which equates to more wins...
You might also find the AFL pressuring us to drop some Vic based home games down the track and play at the other interstate venues especially if we had our snouts in the CB fund and were struggling...
Is the max amount of money we could make out of it worth it?

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Good point Mark.

I'm a bit like you though, not sure I'm that keen on it. But if had genuine positives you'd have to consider it IMO.

Blimey, a bit much to be more traditional than Surrey.

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Keep in mind. In the above scenario, we are not selling our home games, we are selling our away games. And what's to sell? Three major one's against the Collingwoods/Richmonds/Essendons .... where we actually do see some $$$$ from.

The point is that the AFL want to promote the game interstate (Sydney/Brisbane). So why not fixture away games there, it's not like the draw is equal now and all clubs play each other twice. Without looking at clubs draws, I wonder how many games clubs play at home compared to away every year? Bet it's not an even 11/11 anymore.

No don't like that idea.
11 games in Sydney is too much.
Whilst I believe we should play some interstate home games to reward our current interstate members & maybe build our interstate membership, I believe we must maintain the majority of our presence in our heartland of Carlton/Melbourne.
As stated in another thread I'd like to see us create a bit more of a national identity and play a home game in Sydney, Adelaide & the Gold Coast with our draw looking something like this with 16 games in Victoria and 6 interstate trips.

Adelaide H (Adel.Oval)
Brisbane H (Carrara)
Collingwood H (MCG) A (MCG)
Essendon* H (MCG) A (MCG)
Fremantle A (Subiaco)
Geelong H (TD) A (KP)
Hawthorn H (TD) A (MCG)
Melbourne H (TD) A (MCG)
North Melbourne H (TD) A (MCG)
Port Adelaide A (AMMI)
Richmond H (TD)
StKilda A (TD)
Sydney H (Telstra St.) A (SCG)
Westcoast H (TD)
Western Bulldogs A (TD)

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The problem with this Surrey is that we would alienate alot of supporters.
If our away games were played in Sydney as suggested we would no longer play in S.A., W.A. or QLD as well as a reduced number of games in Victoria. Im sure our supporters in other state would be abosolutely rapt with this. The AFL wouldnt allow it even if they dont like to admit our blockbuster status. Can you see them wanting us to play Collingwood or Essendon* is Sydney as opposed to at the MCG. The know we wont be down forever and when we return to power it will mean more money for them again.

Id love to see them play a few games in Sydney every year so long as they are on Friday nights, Sat Nights or Sundays but I can see it happening given we are lucky to see them once every three years now.

The AFL or more to the point AndyD mentioned relocations, merges, new clubs as well as interstate clubs playing matches away...he is going to throw plenty of that TV rights money at those locations and IMHO will throw a struggling club a lifeline plus spending money if they bend over for him.....he will want us as a candidate for relocation if we entertain moving games there...its about TV rights and money this so called promoting the game....members etc mean bugger all...

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So if we're not selling our own home games, we're selling other clubs home games. Yeah, that should work.

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I cant believe people objecting to it . Come on get on board.


a more balanced approach - would be 11 -melb ,8 syd ,1 Ade, 1 Perth, 1 Bris.

Two of the games in Sydney would have to be home games for us as I couldn't see Ess and Coll giving up their home games against us in Melb.
If you made one of those home games against the swans it would bring in good revenue


It would work - there is good support in Sydney for Carlton . In the early days you could almost count on a sell out every time we played up here .


Some one has to do it sooner or later

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Elwood, hit nail head ..... Anyone who has their hand in the CBF better start turning things around and soon. I have a feeling some-one from this bunch will be moved on and sooner rather than later.

Budzy, we shouldn't entertain any such idea of playing home games away.
That will be to the detriment of our "huge" heartland support and membership. Something we cannot afford to ever get complacent about is our current members. Personnaly I think we did do that last year and we are paying for it this year.

That was the proposal back then Camel.
That was Collo at his best.

By playing our home games there we have basically relocated.
Other teams are not going to want to play their home games there to satisfy us or the AFL.
Someone made a good point that if we do play a few games up in Sydney then our Club would/could be seen by the AFL as a Club that could be relocated there. Especially if we are financially vulnerable as we are at the moment.