Neil Craig was interviewed during the week on SEN or AW anyway, he said that to many coaches are coaching for now and the moment and not looking towards the future teaching, mentoring, coaching, developing and building towards something....... he blaimes this on money, quick fixes and pressure from above to gain some short term success.

After hearing what Neil had to say it got me thinking i believe Dennis is the right man for the job he is not coaching for now yeah you can blame poor list management but he along with others in charge see the bigger picture and slowly but surely we will get there and i can not be any happier to have Dennis leading the troops he has the runs on the board, he knows what it takes how hard you have to work and is installing a great attitude that will take our club to great success.

lets hope denis knows what he is doing, he is the supposed master coach he has to be doing something....

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dane's trolling again

Don't clutch at straws, Denis lost the players long ago.If the players aren't having a go, as is Carlton, that's a lack of respect for the coach. While he's there we're going no-where. Hope very much round 1 proves me wrong but last year tells me not to like my chances.

dude honestly Dennis has lost none of the players we all know he can be tough and yes some players find his approach difficult to handle but we dont want bitches who cant handle the heat playing for this club like you if you cant handle the heat then i dont know buy your self an aircon.

Martin Pike said that he credits Dennis for the man he is today, the values, morals and ethics he brought to the kangas never ever do you hear a bad word from any kangas player and look what they achieved we got week pussys in our side and until they are gone yeah we wont be competitive. I know for a fact that players like Waitey, Fish and T-bird respect Dennis and they are our future leaders other sick old dogs like Fev, Skinny, Lance and Kouta there used to having all to easy and cant with stand the pressure

Love to agree with you but do you think players don't have a go for nothing. You don't lack that much passion and commitment for no good reason. So THAT many top players have had it easy and can't stand the pressure. Yeh right. I know for a fact that alot don't respect the coach, first hand. Alot have left for that reason in Pagan's time there. Pity because he can coach, he's proved that but if you're man-management skills are poor your team goes no-where. 2004 and the pre-season shows they can at least play, not world-beaters but can play so there has to be some reason as to the current plight. Forget the Kangaroos glory days, different team, different era. As I said, let's hope I'm wrong and today, being just a practice match, was an abberation but after last year's lack of effort, today's performance gives me very little hope.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

This topic has been canvassed many times before ... funny how quickly it bobs up after another loss - albeit a practice match.

One of his former assistants said DeNis's greatest traits was his ability to "gee" players up and give them confidence and belief in themselves.

But, in the next breath, he said DeNis would tear them to strips in the coaches box. He has quite surprised about how harsh he was in what he said about the players ... not that they could hear what was being said in the box.

Nothing ground breaking there, just a little insight.

Denis and the Carlton football club heirarchy general are a gaggle of people gunning for now and self preservation and not for the future.

The quicker they abandon their hope to not be considered ' losers' the faster this club will get onto its feet.

Why was Kouta playing?Surely he illustrated he didnt want to be out there and was forced to be... or is he that shit thesedays???
Fisher has knee soreness.. (rest him)
Stevens had abit of an injury leading up to the last couple of weeks.. (rest him)

Fev underdone.. (ressies)
Wheres Livo????Surely T Bird is spent at FB... and needs a rest from that spot after 4 years of scragging and pushing... he is jaded!!!Lance cant play back there....PLAY LIVO!!!

You wanted a ruckman???You have McLaren!!!... but surely we could have drafted a ruckman a couple of years ago in Wood.. !!!.. then we wouldnt be in this eternal quest to find a ruckman.. (Mott Bryan McLaren .........)


Flooding???What a shithosue way for the kids to learn and enjoy their craft... as a matter of fact if youre flooding as much as us and getting thumped by 100 points whats the point of flooding at all and stopping kids from enjoying and learning the game...???

Look, it goes on and on...

NExt thing we know were going to say... we tried the kids and lost 20 games last year.. lets trade off our first pick and stabilise the ship.... stabilising the ship is all were interested in these days!!!....

Ill slash their tyres if they do something like that!!!!


This is a long term exercise were in.... no band aid solutions no short term remedies.. its like being a parent... your babies will cry all night.. you wont get much sleep.. you have shit on bums to wash.. nappies to change.. until they know what theyre doing...!!!

AW does not have to be a tagger / defensive player each week.. sometimes he can play footy in the forward line and lead out and just mark and run...!!!

Livo can play FB sometimes to give T Bird a break.. god knows he needs it!!!

Josh Kennedy does not haver to be rushed back from his shoulder reco ahead of time... we want him to be a 10 year player not to line up in round 5 in the firsts!!!

I want to see improvement.. i want to see building blocks put in place!!!... not interested in wins.. stop pretending were going to wallpaper over our current defficiencies!!!

Flooding???

BLAH!!!!

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Synbad there gunning for now cause people like you who have nothing positive to say force decisions like this to be made. HAVE YOU NOT LISTENED Dennis has said all along its GOING TO TAKE TIME..... 2 years back they said it will take four years to start seeing SOME results we into our third year of that plan. So what is all the fuss about i could not imagine a better person leading the chargers his philosophies, toughness, ethics is what he is trying to install into our club but his problem is you cant teach an old dog new tricks, so he needs a fresh new crop hence anyone under 22 cause its his way or the highway.

Youre the bloke that said Setanta abd Aisake wernt liked ....

Im the bloke who said they were....

I dont gun for anyone.. i just call things as i see them.

If you cant see that we were kicking into a wall of players who had set themselves for us..
How we were allowed to get the first kick away from a kick in and they knew we would trurn it over..

How we had noone through the middle to sweep the loose ball as it came through and break up their sorties coming through the middle of the ground.
How were still doing edurance work this late into our prepartaion instead of working on ball movement..

Then i have spent too much time with you.... cos you have NO idea.
We have bludgers for leaders.
Our kids are being run into the ground....

(and you dont want your kids hating playing footy cos they will look elsewhere)

Teams must rub their hands together..when they pl;ay us...

Yes im negative.. but not for the sake of being negative.

But then again im not a fool ballistic.

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Adelaide's training regime is a very interesting one - they focus more on football drills than fitness during the pre-season........given Craig has a fitness background it does highlight what he thinks is the #1 priority.

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They do this because their policy is that fitness is the responsibility of each individual player. The club expects each player to maintain a certain level of fitness away from the club. Adelaide's leadership group is big on this and takes any youngster aside who is not up to scratch and has a talk with him. The training time not used for fitness leaves the assistant coaches free to work on skills, and Neil Craig free to work on tactics. It is a very good system that I think we should adopt. The only caveat being that it requires strong leadership from the senior players.

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I AM DISENFRANCHISED

ITS A PRACTICE MATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if it was round one or 5 then fricken say what you like i cant believe that we are causing such ruckus over a practice match.......

we are killing this club not only the coach, the board we are eating our own as for Setanta and Aisake yes there were some issues and still are but there are issues everywhere in every club.

If Dennis is not the right person Synbad then who name names who could walk in and rescue this club, this list right now

We ahve to ride the storm we got some quality kids coming through along with Fish, Waite, Simpson, T-bird, Walks, throw in Russel, Hartlett, Murph, Bower, Edwards, Blackwell and we are slowly getting some quality into this list BUT ITS GOING TO TAKE TIME players like Prenda, Bannister, Wiggins, Sporn, Mcgrath, Deluca would not even get a game anywhere else they are not the future and we all know that those mentioned are and will take time and they LOVE DENNIS

bull- istic.

I bet when you played in the sandpit your best game was digging a hole and sticking your very own head in it... it shows.

I know what i would do right now.
Im not saying its possible without some very heavy negotiaions...

But we will have to probably wait till round 12 to do the inevitable as far as im concerned.
Thats not to say anythings going to change.

Im not sure if you were there yesterday... but in front of a family day.. only 1000 people there... 2 games.. all the players.. and thats what we could come up with.

If you read molesys post very carefuly youd soon see it was obvious to everybody that was out there.

EITHER Denis has no answers...and his tactical nouse is shot
OR... theyre not listening.. and after 3 years of being unable to get a simple message across you have to take a good close look at the coach.

Either he is unable to come up with tactics.. or he cant communicate.

There is no third option.

By round 12 something will need to be done.

We cann all go defending what has been happening forever.. but as some point something needs to be done.

I reckon Denis was unlucky because he didnt have much to play with.. he was more unlucky aboout the state of the culture of this club and the lack of accountability his leadership group have given.

But at the end of the day... just like in the 60s..in my opinion Denis and Carlton were never really MEANT to be.

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Most have had enough of Denis. I know first hand one of the those above players, won't mention his name, can't stand him as alot can't. Wake up and smell the roses. He's lost the players.

If anyone is not prepared to back up comments with names, it just becomes a bunch of words from a poster on the internet.

If naming people could result in damage to the source, possibly legal threats, etc, then nothing should be posted.

If names are not to be mentioned, then the info should remain private.

Everyone loves Denis, even his love child wanted to go to Richmond.
When is Stevens OOC?

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I heard the interview with Neal Craig also and the most interesting thing he said was the the number 1 thing about any job (footy or an office) is that you have to enjoy it and have some fun along the way. People won't perform otherwise.

I genuinely don't know the answer to this question but are our players enjoying thier job at the moment?

It gets down to the philosophy that a coach is using to get the most out of his players.

you can be defensive... looking for kids to colse down games and tag...

or you can play how collingwood played today and pick number 2 just went out there and played footy like he was playing in the park with his mates.

Did ok too.

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If that was the case, then there would be no "inside info" posted at all.

Look, I have a solid line of info from a player, one of my closest mate's is his boss. I get some great stuff via this relationship (some just cannot be posted ever) but if I was to name the guy, that source would dry up immediately.

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