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This guy can't talk, can't write for crap....

The article swaps back and forth I lost what the hell he was going on about...

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Carlton is down and all but out. A little ritual kicking music, please.
He is bitter hey.

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The club president, Ian Collins, took the news conference yesterday.
Who else would you expect Patrick, the bootstudder.

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His chief executive Michael Malouf sat beside him..
Where else would he sit, on his lap.

The way this fatprick slags us off in the media, Collins should banned him from attending any new conferences/events that involve Carlton.


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What, ban him and convince him that someone actually cares?

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Lets just remember this fat turd and when we are back on top in a couple of years time lets ban him from press conferences etc. Dont do it now it looks bad. When we are flying and everyone wants their photo shaking Marc Murphy's hand for the 'footy's back' edition of the paper, we quietly let the Age know that the fat turd's not welcome, they can send along the cadet journo, no probs, but the turd's not welcome down Royal Parade!!!

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Collins should banned him from attending any new conferences/events that involve Carlton.



This C$%T is so big and fat he has not moved out of his armchair in 25 years and hasn't ever attended a Press Conference in that time either. :roll:

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Collins should banned him from attending any new conferences/events that involve Carlton.



This C$%T is so big and fat he has not moved out of his armchair in 25 years and hasn't ever attended a Press Conference in that time either. :roll:


:lol: :lol:

Actually, there is a show about him on Channel 10 every weeknight starting at 7pm....

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Its called "The Biggest LOSER"


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If my penis was as ugly as Patrick Smith I'd cut it off.

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Hey FatPrick I've got a point to make with you, just a point.....ONE POINT!!


hehehe "Good One"

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That's three articles this week on Carlton alone. :roll:

Doesn't he have a successful Commonweath games to attack next week?

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Hmmm...seems Patrick and his peers are putting up a very deliberate & united campaign to keep Carlton down. And it will probably work as the AFL always succumbs to the pressure of a media push.

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Why do we let this seething mass of fetid blubber get to us! In his very little mind he is George Negus out on assignment in Fallujah, teasing out the dirty underhanded deals of a mad power hungry competition gone wrong!!! In reality he is an ugly fat and bitter individual who has missed his real calling in life, that of contestant on 'Australia's Biggest Loser'.

His razor shar wit and stunning intellect are nothing more than a rearrangement of well known facts tossed together to the backdrop of some very average (but supposedly witty) book titles.

All that i can say to the Great fat behemoth, to the gargantuan heaving pile of sloth is Bravo!! Bravo for finding a job where you can rearrange rumour and innuendo into a barely readable diatribe of venom, hate and mediocrity. Bravo for finding an employer that will accept and publish the garbage that you spew. Bravo for finding an audience of idiots to read, support and therefor justify the aforementioned. And Bravo for managing to find yet another melancholy way to present a boring series of stories that we've all hear 100 times already!!!

I guess now that he has turned in his 1 page opinion piece, which cant have taken him any longer to write than this post is taking me, he will be free to delve back into the seedy, murky world of the AFL's dark underbelly. Unfortunately for us all, the only real dark underbelly is probably the dank sweat stained lower regions of his massive girth, blocked out from the sun and air for eons by a life full of excess and sloth!!!

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That's three articles this week on Carlton alone. :roll:

Doesn't he have a successful Commonweath games to attack next week?

Carlton Capers best-seller tip


In amongst all the vitriol Smith sometimes accidently makes a valid point **ducks**

In this article he claims that we're not actually eligible for financial assistance from the AFL as the rules currently stand:

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The curious clubs cannot see how Carlton can qualify for special assistance and that the lease arrangement is a backdoor method to supply the club with extra money to help a fragile cash flow and its $7m debt.

There are two critical criteria to gain money from the AFL's revamped special assistance dividend. First, a club must show that it is dramatically disadvantaged by the stadium arrangements where it plays. Or revenue from its support base must be small and out of proportion to the rest of the competition.

In 2003 and 2004, Carlton's income from its stadium deals put it among the top five in the competition. In 2005 alone, it received $2.6m to take its games from Princes Park to Telstra Dome. The stadium takings this season should be the highest on record because, before it agreed to move to Telstra Dome, it was the centre of a bidding war with the other venue in Melbourne, the MCG.

Carlton could hardly meet the second criteria either. Last year its membership was a record 33,000- plus and it has consistently earned twice as much from its supporter base as clubs such as the Bulldogs, the Kangaroos and Melbourne which qualify legitimately for special assistance.

Collins has said that he doesn't want to formally apply for special assistance because it will reduce the independence of the club. It seems more likely now that it is because the club does not qualify.


Anyone care to comment if this is this correct?

The media is right to question why the AFL should take on 29 years of lease payments/ground maintainance for us that may end up costing over $50m. It's just a shame certain columnists can't do it in a more professional fashion.

... of course, as a fan, all I can say is where do we sign?


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Guys,

in all honesty he is trying to stick it up the AFL more than us. The subtext to all of these articles (and the part that worries me) is that the other AFL Clubs are worried that the AFL is looking to bail us out. Of course, such views overlook the historical precedent of the AFL having a back-up venue (surely required for an emergency in melbourne given that nine teams still play there).
Of course, the problem for us is that if the other clubs scupper this (a la Brisbane and Sydney's salary cap concessions) then where does it leave us?
We'll wait and see. However, I do have a gut feeling that the AFL knows it played the man rather than the ball in 2002, and it now realises it has a problem on its hands. I've said it before in these forums, but I had the opportunity to show Ben Buckley around Hobart for a day in Hobart 2003 when he had some speaking presentations to deliver. Naturally, I asked about the salary cap fines, etc. His comment was that they had fined Carlton as much as they believed the club was able to handle without it going bankrupt (he specifically said that the punsihment would have been of a lesser nature for Sydney and the Dogs - the two clubs to which I enquired as to how they would have handled salary cap indiscretions). In short, they wanted to bring the club to its knees, but to have it go under was not desirable. Maybe they have now determined that the measures went too far and they need to be able to help us without the assistance appearing to be overt? Just a suggestion...


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Molly very well put.

However as I said elsewhere the only reason the AFL are making overtures to help us know is not for any benevolant/altruistic intentions on our part.

Demetrispew & Buckly now realise they will cost the AFL a lot more only being able to delivery 7 games a round to the TV Rights holders.


Wont look good on their CV - a $780 million dollar lawsuit. :roll:

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nightcrawler wrote:
JuzzCarlton wrote:
That's three articles this week on Carlton alone. :roll:

Doesn't he have a successful Commonweath games to attack next week?

Carlton Capers best-seller tip


In amongst all the vitriol Smith sometimes accidently makes a valid point **ducks**

In this article he claims that we're not actually eligible for financial assistance from the AFL as the rules currently stand:

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The curious clubs cannot see how Carlton can qualify for special assistance and that the lease arrangement is a backdoor method to supply the club with extra money to help a fragile cash flow and its $7m debt.

There are two critical criteria to gain money from the AFL's revamped special assistance dividend. First, a club must show that it is dramatically disadvantaged by the stadium arrangements where it plays. Or revenue from its support base must be small and out of proportion to the rest of the competition.

In 2003 and 2004, Carlton's income from its stadium deals put it among the top five in the competition. In 2005 alone, it received $2.6m to take its games from Princes Park to Telstra Dome. The stadium takings this season should be the highest on record because, before it agreed to move to Telstra Dome, it was the centre of a bidding war with the other venue in Melbourne, the MCG.

Carlton could hardly meet the second criteria either. Last year its membership was a record 33,000- plus and it has consistently earned twice as much from its supporter base as clubs such as the Bulldogs, the Kangaroos and Melbourne which qualify legitimately for special assistance.

Collins has said that he doesn't want to formally apply for special assistance because it will reduce the independence of the club. It seems more likely now that it is because the club does not qualify.


Anyone care to comment if this is this correct?

The media is right to question why the AFL should take on 29 years of lease payments/ground maintainance for us that may end up costing over $50m. It's just a shame certain columnists can't do it in a more professional fashion.

... of course, as a fan, all I can say is where do we sign?

Since the Dogs, Roos and Demons play out of the Telstra Dome or the G and sell home games interstate for a pretty penny, how are they disadvantaged by their stadium arrangements? :?

I don't think they can refuse our appeal for funds if we can't make ends meet or are close to going under.


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Molly wrote:
Guys,

in all honesty he is trying to stick it up the AFL more than us. The subtext to all of these articles (and the part that worries me) is that the other AFL Clubs are worried that the AFL is looking to bail us out. Of course, such views overlook the historical precedent of the AFL having a back-up venue (surely required for an emergency in melbourne given that nine teams still play there).
Of course, the problem for us is that if the other clubs scupper this (a la Brisbane and Sydney's salary cap concessions) then where does it leave us?
We'll wait and see. However, I do have a gut feeling that the AFL knows it played the man rather than the ball in 2002, and it now realises it has a problem on its hands. I've said it before in these forums, but I had the opportunity to show Ben Buckley around Hobart for a day in Hobart 2003 when he had some speaking presentations to deliver. Naturally, I asked about the salary cap fines, etc. His comment was that they had fined Carlton as much as they believed the club was able to handle without it going bankrupt (he specifically said that the punsihment would have been of a lesser nature for Sydney and the Dogs - the two clubs to which I enquired as to how they would have handled salary cap indiscretions). In short, they wanted to bring the club to its knees, but to have it go under was not desirable. Maybe they have now determined that the measures went too far and they need to be able to help us without the assistance appearing to be overt? Just a suggestion...


Agree 100% There's no doubt in my mind this is the course of events. Only 3-5 clubs could handle the size of the penalties. I'm starting to think we weren't one of them.

They hit us hard to make a point - and the point was taken seriously by Essendon* who coincidently dismissed 4 premiership players and Melbourne who traded a brownlow medalist while he was on a beach in the Bahamas. They were so convinced he was no good they decided to pay half his salary :? . All this with-in days of black friday.

Where's the fat fart and his conspiracy theories with these issues?

When he takes a piss, it's like a kid looking for a treat in a lucky dip - 'I know it's down there somewhere!!'

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Why do we let this seething mass of fetid blubber get to us! In his very little mind he is George Negus out on assignment in Fallujah, teasing out the dirty underhanded deals of a mad power hungry competition gone wrong!!! In reality he is an ugly fat and bitter individual who has missed his real calling in life, that of contestant on 'Australia's Biggest Loser'.

His razor shar wit and stunning intellect are nothing more than a rearrangement of well known facts tossed together to the backdrop of some very average (but supposedly witty) book titles.

All that i can say to the Great fat behemoth, to the gargantuan heaving pile of sloth is Bravo!! Bravo for finding a job where you can rearrange rumour and innuendo into a barely readable diatribe of venom, hate and mediocrity. Bravo for finding an employer that will accept and publish the garbage that you spew. Bravo for finding an audience of idiots to read, support and therefor justify the aforementioned. And Bravo for managing to find yet another melancholy way to present a boring series of stories that we've all hear 100 times already!!!

I guess now that he has turned in his 1 page opinion piece, which cant have taken him any longer to write than this post is taking me, he will be free to delve back into the seedy, murky world of the AFL's dark underbelly. Unfortunately for us all, the only real dark underbelly is probably the dank sweat stained lower regions of his massive girth, blocked out from the sun and air for eons by a life full of excess and sloth!!!


Did you not like Fatprick's article? :lol:


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And dont you love it how its the fans of those clubs that scrambled to sort their sh1t out in the aftermath that are often the most vicious about sticking it to us for being cheats!!!

It seems that every Essendon* supporter that I know and every peanut that rings SEN when I am driving home etc seems to have some barrow to push that we are cheats and deserve to rot. Personally I couldnt care less it because their opinions mean nothing to me, or anybody else for that matter. But without getting all religious:

"let he who is without guilt cast the 1st stone"

I wonder who the Fat Prick barracks for??

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Our dearly departed comes screaming back to life

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On Friday night, Hawthorn had beaten Carlton in a miserable contest. Undeniably awful. Hawthorn is relentlessly enthusiastic but technically barely moderate. Carlton is not even that.

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The experts did not have a great first round. After Carlton beat Melbourne it was considered that the fortunes of Denis Pagan's team were on the turn. They might be. The experts just got the direction wrong.

Anything to say about Essendon*'s fortune now they've lost Lloyd? :roll:

This piece of shit just can't resist having a dig at us even when it's completely unrelated to the article passed off as "journalism". This guy should have an account on Bigfooty where immature puns and sarcasm is considered a sense of humour and trolling goes unrestricted.


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Way too dismissive of Blues efforts so far this year. We have been close in each of our losses. The man is a dill.


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The only thing that had been close to perhaps being thought about being classified as 'dearly departed' in that article was his monotonous loathing of Carlton.

Still, I give him credit - I could read the whole article this time. :garthp:

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