I actually thought Wayne Brittain was quite hard done by in the end. I wouldn't be opposed at all if the club approached him about taking an assistants role. I thought he mentored players quite well - not everyone responds to the Pagan approach although I should point out I do support Pagan as Coach of this club.

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Can't imagine it happening though while Denis is still in charge. Surely it would be uncomfortable for both men?

Wayne Brittain is as tactically adept as anyone in the game.
If he is a shattered man, its Carlton that shattered him.
He was shafted by old men struggling to retain their last bit of relevance.
David Parkin, Ross Lyon, John Worsfold, current and ex Carlton players rate him up with the best.

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That may be the case? But what happened at Richmond?

Not to take away from Brittain.

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Was at an AFL function last night. Was involved in a conversation which gleamed the following:

Wayne Brittain is a hard task master -- it's his way or the highway.

He is a meticulous planner, even at AFLQ level.

He is unreliable at making non-Club committments -- he has cancelled at the last minute several times.

Nothing ground breaking, but was an interesting conversation.

that brittain was a hard taskmaster is news to me - well based on what has been said on these boards relative to pagan's coaching anyway)

Was news to me too.

I'd say that's as a result of the sacking he has brought that into his style. He tried to continue the Parkin legacy, in which the players themselves were highly professional and took it upon themselves to motivate the less experienced in the playing group.

It all began to unravel in 2002 when a good number of these were injured and some had already retired. That and a severe lack of depth due to shoddy recruiting.

This is all known information guys, Brittain had a thing he could do with the playing group and that was connect with them, it was unique to the situation and when that connection was lost, so was his job. Kind of like a player's form if you will. He didn't have the skills to rebuild that.

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actually thought he maintained the connection with the players right through to the end - including after his sacking.

Letting Woosha go back to WA - worst.mistake.ever

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dont think it was a mistake - woosha was offered the senior coaching role back at the club he played 10+yrs for - dont think we could have offered him anything to convince him to stay

There's a difference between connecting with the players and having a good rapport with the players.

They can work hand in hand but they are seperate. One enables you to engage the playing group and lift their spirits or make them focus on the task. The other makes you approachable and a cool guy to have a beer with.

EDIT: Yeah I doubt we could have got Woosha to stay.

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Very well put BV.

He was one of us (ie not a blue-blood ex-AFL player) who made it almost to the top in the game. And yet the supporters on these forums, to a man, cut him down - often merely because he wasn't a blue blood.

I dont understand how we continually assume assistant coaches are responsible.
We got the wooden spoon last year but Barry Mitchell is as good an AFL coach in the making as any.
Essendon* had their most unsuccessful season for a long time in 2005.`
Does that mean Mark Harvey is a better assistant coach than Gary O'Donnell?

Assistant coaches are there to assist.
How much the senior coach requests or utilises information is varied I'd suggest.
I'd also suggest some senior coaches want to do it their way exclusively, especially when they are under pressure.
When is the last time you saw anyone other than Pagan or Elshaugh speak in the box?



This is all known information is it Jimmae?
Some of the shit you sprout on here as fact is amazing.
We should introduce a fiction section of TC just for you.

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Tactically adept as anyone in the game!

Geez BV, you call out others for making silly statements, try and back that one up. Give me some examples of his tactical brilliance in 2002 when we won 3 games.

Also, tell me why when he is so tactically 'adept' he is no longer in the AFL system despite having a chance at another AFL club. Will the AFL club's be beating down his door at season's end?

Fair dinkum, you can say he may have been hard done by, and that he was a good coach who hit hard times, but to make outlandish statements like that is just not your usual style.

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You try being tactically adept with Doering, Cranage, Pickering, Lindsay Smith, David Gallagher and Andrew Eccles in your team, Jarusa!

With the senior players dropping like flies in 2002 and these lesser lights give a go, I think it's very hard to assess the Coach one way or the other.

If assistant coaches aren't always crap, then how do we judge Pagan's assistant Elshaug when he was the right hand man for the Kangaroos' triumphs?

And what has changed?

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We just discussed this the other week... I think youll find BV will give you some examples of it..
I wont disagree with him either.

I think Britts problem was he never played football at the highest level. .. and that didnt give him the credibility he may have had if he had.

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BV/Synbad,

The guy was clearly out of his depth. How Parkin was able to suck Elliot in to give him the senior coaching role is still a mystery.
Who can ever forget after his press conference where he blamed Telstra dome for our losses saying that they should put up basketball rings at each end.
And of course when we lost to Geelong after the siren where Wiggins touched the ball off the boot - he thought that video replays should come in!!
The guy was desperate, pity that woosha wasn’t around in 2002 or else he would have been coach by round 12.